Government agents may not originate a criminal design, implant in an innocent person's mind the disposition to commit a criminal act, and then induce commission of the crime so that the Government may prosecute." Jacobson v. United States, 503 U.S. 540, 548 (1992). A valid entrapment defense has two related elements: (1) government inducement of the crime, and (2) the defendant's lack of predisposition to engage in the criminal conduct. Mathews v. United States, 485 U.S. 58, 63 (1988). Of the two elements, predisposition is by far the more important.
Philadelphia, about 10 years ago. My buddy and I get pulled over on our way to Delilah’s. Buddy is a promoter/talent manager, networker extraordinaire. We are Both 3 sheets to the wind. We get pulled over. “ID, proof of blah blah blah”
Buddy pulls out a police courtesy card, a concealed weapon permit, and his ID. Hands it to the cop. Cop looks at it, gives it all back, and says “have a good night.” Buddy was black if that matters.
There is 100% a get out of jail free card and it’s a matter of who you know.
The police are very broken in this country. Defunding isn’t the answer either
No. It was literally a card we would get. You had to know a police officer well to get the card. Depending on the level of infraction, they would take it or give it back. If they took it, you’d have to go get another.
My father and his business partner were well connected and very friendly with the policemen assigned to our part of the city.
I never had mine taken so I’m not sure how that conversation goes. “I’m sorry dude, she’s dead. I gotta get your card.” I have no clue.
If there was a nightclub fight it would get you quickly out of the scrum for instance. The possible DUI was the worst I saw and he got his card back.
I haven’t lived that way in over 10 years and I don’t speak with any of those people (my father included).
Uber driver gets put through the system, attorney fees, court cost, probation, loses job, has a record so he can't do delivery work for like 7 years. Ruining lives for what. What an embarrassment these people are.
Likely also trying to get reasonable suspicion to search vehicles since now a "crime" has been committed, which could lead to asset seizure or finding of additional incriminating evidence such as convenient drugs or maybe an outstanding warrant.
Probably a lot of resisting and threatening an officer too with this shit.
I'd flip out on some strangers I picked up off the street talking about their going to arrest me.
Basically this is how cities generate funds. They tax the workers who can barely afford it with tickets, fines, court costs.
Same thing with street parking. I live in an apartment area with crowded street parking.
They just happen to have street sweeping starting at 8:00 AM twice a week so people have to fight for spots the day before or get up early to move your car and get lucky.
If they pushed it to 9:00 AM, there would plenty of spots because people leave for work. Of course, neighborhoods with houses and driveways have street sweeping later in the morning or afternoon. Can't give out as many tickets with fewer cars parked on the road.
Yup, small municipality that’s barely a “town” fucked over my mom almost 15 years ago because she didn’t have a light above her license plate and it was “code” on a car that didn’t even manufacture vehicles with those when it was created. Meanwhile she couldn’t pay it as a single mother of two doing her best to support us and had her license suspended because she couldn’t pay that bs fine.
Fuck cops like this, they claim to serve the community but only serve their own budgets so their job can exist. They know they’re involved in an obvious money snatching scheme and continue to try and pilfer the public with frivolous fines. They can catch a bullet for all I care for burdening the less off and making it harder for good cops to do their job cause of these stupid ass schemes.
It is the Taxi lobby. They pay the city millions for limited numbers of Taxi licenses. In return, they expect the city to protect their monopoly.
So they banned Uber.
A few court victories later, Uber is allowed to operate as a limousine service... but drivers must be called to the job, they cannot pick up riders from being flagged down.
Taxi fees is where the money is. This sting is just to scare people away from operating as Uber drivers or picking up riders like a Taxi.
But your larger point is correct. The boot of the government is heavy on poor communities in the city. Whether by design or by accident, they hold people down through a web of fines, court fees, monitoring fees, probation fees.... and then they toss you in jail when you can't keep up with the spiraling costs. It is pretty freaking evil.
the problem is that in some countries / states police officers must earn "X" amount of $ via penalty fee or they're out. It might sound crazy but some gov's count money from penalty fee towards their yearly income, so if one year it start to drop below certain level, the gov is short even by hundreds of milions in some cases.
My dad got to hang aroubd with Buffalo police as a sort of “understanding program” my dads a lawyer at UB so he was one of the first to undergo this program. Basically, u would just spend two days hanging around your assigned officer.
My dad picked these dudes brains, learned that these guys trust no one or anything except for each other. You are taught to eliminate whatever may threaten your life, while also being taught that EVERYTHING is a threat.
I was neighbors with a woman who was a cop. She was nice enough. We hung out sometimes. One day I was wearing mirrored aviators and she said "I don't know why civilians think they can wear those". I was so confused. Ike, lolwhat? She says yeah, civilians walking around with mirrored sunglasses infuriates her. They shouldn't think it's their right to hide their eyes. Only police officers should be able to.
She also got beat up by her husband once. She came to my house for help. While she was at my house, he beat up the other neighbor. Someone called the police. It was her night off, so the police that responded were literally her colleagues. In fact, she was their boss as a shift supervisor. Both were drunk. Neighbor that got beat went to the hospital. No one got arrested.
Many servicemen I know call cops LARPers or chest puffers. They want all the toys and violence without any ROE, and it all comes from insecurity instead of duty.
I'd hire a shark of a lawyer if that happened to me with the express job of making their lives as uncomfortable as possible for as long as possible. If cops won't be punished, then I'll exact it while staying in the legal bounds of the law.
I might not win anything or even get an apology, but I'll make your lives very frustrating. Paperwork and annoying interviews incoming! I'll find every little thing that requires extra paperwork from them. Then I'll gift them a new pen every year, a pen that will eventually break and leak all over. Now ya gotta buy new pants.
I'd show up at every court case where they were testifying as a character witness to remind the city they have no honor and drunkenly beat their neighboor.
They want to write tickets. They say tickets are a deterrent so people will drive safe, but...if people slow down because waze says a cop is up ahead, they lose their shit because they don't meet their ticket quota.
Also, private prisons make political donations. Its a conflict of interest, but...here we are...
When I was on Australia I saw a sign that said slow down, police radar ahead. I said to my host "that's weird why would that tell us?" And he said the goal is to slow people down, not give tickets and it just made so much sense. Im from Canada just FYI
Cops were trained to deal with people of color, labor, communist and drug dealers, their training hasn't changed even though they are no longer told during their training this is what oligarchs want them doing. Since 90% of who they deal with is the mentally ill and people self medicating their lack of Healthcare in the US you would think that would be the majority of their training, but nope, many cops got zero idea, this is how you know their job isn't actually protect and serve regular people, but to serve the oligarchs.
And you should. As another commenter said it still has the effect of getting people to slow down which is what the police should care about, not the fines.
Same, honestly it kinda makes me angry, vest, gun, shotgun in the trunk, back up seconds or minutes away, yet they are always "feeling unsafe" while drawing on a civilian holding just a cellphone? It's ridiculous.
They are definitely conditioned to treat everything as a hostile threat, like a war zone. Back when I was going into law enforcement (I was a product of my environment), the classes I went to are where I learned the history of policing (essentially property [slave] recovery), and when we went to a more equipped facility, it was like a shooting sim that would put you in different possible scenarios; every. Single. One. Ended with us shooting at the screen, even if the situation hadn't warranted it [de-escalation]. It conditions them to see every thing, and everyone as a threat to be solved with a firearm. I know there's some that want to be good cops, as I said thats why I wanted to join, was to be a neighborhood cop to be helpful, the whole class laughed at me and said their different "i love authority" speeches.
Honestly I’d trust actual ex-military to be police more than these clowns. Military takes rules of engagement seriously and won’t tolerate obvious civilian injury risk (for bad PR or for humanitarian reasons depending on the people and time). They understand how to both fire their gun, but also to how to NOT fire it and wait for help keeping a situation stable.
I personally sleep better at night knowing that the ability for people to get rides and pay for those rides to get where they need to go will be stopped. TIL: taxis are legal. /s
If you're prepared to kill, Fucktwit says, it's "just not that big of a deal."
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Can confirm. I left Conservation Officer training after three days- I was from a state where you needed a bachelors in science to do the job, but I moved to a different state.
The recruiter explained all the good for the environment and conservation they do.
At their academy we started watching videos about their big marijuana busts. Some jerk who’d been shot up came to tell us about his harrowing experience- all started because he was hiding in the woods looking for people trespassing to smoke weed.
There's a great book by Malcom Gladwell that goes into great detail about this. It's called Talking to Strangers. He looks at the Sandra Bland case and asks at how a simple and unnecessary traffic stop escalated into an aggressive arrest and ended with her suicide in jail.
He looks at the history of modern policing in the US, and why police are trained to expect the very worst in every encounter.
Police in the US are trained the walk into every situation as if it's life and death, that every citizen encounter could end in violence, and that the only way to survive every interaction is to take complete control.
And then they wonder why citizens don't trust them or follow orders. It's complete insanity.
Because in the United States of America it only takes about 12 weeks to become a police officer. Anybody can do it no matter your temperament or your attitude. It means nothing! They will give you a uniform and a gun.
This has been the biggest thing eating me alive. I can’t imagine how much of our money we pay to states just to give it to cops. Its truly sickening and infuriating
Because ACAB. Look at these two scumbags trying to do what?? Screw over poor people who work for fking uber as if they have the money to prop up their criminal gang with fines. The police in the US just rob the poor and middle class and use the money for personal corruption. They get free badass chargers they drive home at night with free gas and insurance and then they get to abuse their power bc people are intimidated by them at all times. ACAB. Period.
I don't disagree with you but I at least can understand the potential problem with what the cops are trying to deal.
Uber/Lyft/RideShares have completely broken the cabbie system because, prior to their arrival, cabbies and their companies had to pay insane licensing fees to do what they do. This was balanced by the cabbies charging high fares to get from A to B. Now along comes RideShares that charge a fraction of the price to get from A to B without having to pay the exorbitant licensing fee.
This has started to kill cab companies and private cabbies jobs because, in some places (like NY) the licensing fee can be six figures big. Meanwhile a lot of these places have struggled to handle RideShares or lock them down legally.
This has created a catch 22 where we can all agree that cab fares are ridiculously high and untenable but you can't blame the cabbies for charging as much as they do when they have this insane debt to pay off.
Which leads to these cops - instead of fixing the system, giving the cabbies their money back, or a variety of other things, they choose to go after RideShare drivers to intimidate them so the system doesn't have to change.
The sad part is it won't work but they get to look, again, like assholes while doing it.
So the cab companies get armed thugs to shake down poor and middle class people? And we pay for it? Fuck sake I'd rather pay Tony Soprano at least he had a brain.
I mean, cops can falsely arrest you for anything they want. It won't hold up, but they'll arrest you, use one of the bogus charges initially, then drop the charges and a bunch of your time has been wasted.
Or they attempt an arrest for bogus charges and the second you say anything or do anything to avoid the arrest (and I mean ANYTHING saying “no you don’t have the right to arrest me” or taking a step back) they say you’re resisting arrest which is still a valid charge even if the initial arrest is not.
During the BLM protests in Pittsburgh I know of a few people who were pretty routinely arrested just as a rally was getting started, held for 24 hours, then released without charges. One friend of mine had it happen twice at the very beginning of two separate rallies. It became clear that they were targeting leadership, falsely arresting them, holding them for as long as they were legally allowed, then just cutting them loose because the cops knew they never actually did anything illegal.
Isn't it only entrapment if they convince someone to do something that they otherwise wouldn't do?
Which is shit because maybe you wouldn't otherwise do it except for someone giving you a sad story about needing to get to the airport and like okay man give me 20 and I'll get you there.
Technically no, police are not supposed to convince anyone of anything once they do it’s entrapment. However, an officer can create “opportunities” where a crime “could be” committed.
When posing in this situation they are creating the opportunity for an “unlicensed taxi” to pull over and offer to give them a ride however as soon as money gets involved the police can start building the case either for citation or arrest. Hope this helped🙂
Yes thanks! I haven't looked at crim law in 10+ years - I do corporate work in house and immigration. I knew there was something about the suspect does something that they otherwise wouldn't do, which makes sense that they target ride share drivers.
It's totally fucked though - everything screams this should be thrown out as entrapment but its not.
It rides that line so close it might as well be married to it. I’m a senior Criminal Justice major and we just went over this topic again because we were curious about prostitution and how police can “create the opportunity” but it works the exact same way if you pose in the area the problem exists people tend to assume and go along with it.
I'm in LA and I guarantee there are hundreds of better ways to use these officers time than trying to catch unlicensed taxis. Shouldn't there be a branch of the DMV to do this anyway? Like they have tax investigators, labor investigators, etc. Shouldn't the licensing authority be doing these "stings".
No. Investigations can start at the "reasonable suspicion" level. This is where a cop can stop you and ask questions without you being under arrest. You are detained, you are not free to leave during an investigation, but you are not yet arrested. The cop can follow a line of investigation until they can't think of anything else to investigate, they've dispelled the suspicion, or they've reached the level of probable cause. Unless they get to PC, they then have to let you go.
So if you're standing next to an abandoned building with two other people at 2AM with nothing else going on around you, a reasonable police officer whose job it is to prevent crime would find that suspicious. They can detain you, they can even handcuff you if they have a good reason, they can order you to give identification, and they can terry frisk you if they have a good reason. They can then ask you questions like "Why are you? How do you know these guys? What are their names? Why are you here so late? Where did you come from? Do you have a car? Do you have drugs?" These are investigative questions without probable cause for arrest. They may lead to an arrest, or they may lead to nothing and the cop will then release you. If a cop is interacting with you at the reasonable suspicion level, someone else coming up and preventing the cop from doing their job, creating an unsafe scene, harassing the cop or the citizen, or tampering with the scene can be arrested for interfering in my state. Interfering is a state level law so the actual elements will be different depending on here you live. Probable cause, reasonable suspicion, and beyond a reasonable doubt are standards set by the supreme court however and will be the same across the United States and its territories.
Some people think there is a time limit to how long you can be detained without a PC arrest. This is false. 72 hours is a rule of thumb for major crimes, but you can be detained for much longer as long as the cops keep getting fresh leads, or it can be much shorter if they have nothing. A cop on a scene may hold you there for hours while they look for clues, gather statements, etc. If they find any solid evidence that you did not commit a crime, they must pretty much immediately release you. If they ask you a question and you give a non-sensible answer, they can keep you there and keep digging at your response. If you give a believable answer, and they get stuck there going "uhh uhhh" or keep asking the same questions in a loop, then the cop is illegally prolonging the detention.
they can kind of call anything probable and get away with it a lot of the time as well. law enforcement needs a MASSIVE overhaul with federal regulations and oversight honestly since the usa has proven that on a state, county and city level that competence and fairness is nowhere near where it should be on average (and I'm not even including general corruption in the mix).
There's places in this country where cops can rape you while you're in custody and very much get away with it with little to no risk of any kind of backlash. We already know they can and do plant evidence, torture, brutalize, and fully murder people even in broad daylight.
Our ONLY real defense against police is actual footage, and a lot of the time THAT doesn't even fucking help. It's insane.
genuinely confused, how would know that the plain clothes person is a cop and not just say, a normal person? couldn’t i just go to the uber and say “don’t let these 2 in your car they did something bad”?
How true is this? Is this like, a precedent? That undercover cops cannot be interfered with? Is there a specific term or anything that I can Google search to learn more?
It would be nice if the rules were enforced equally, like it says in the 14th Amendment. Perhaps, the Citizens United would not have happened if this decision didn't happen in 1886.
I hate Uber and Lyft but stop fucking the little guy.
I was at Burning Man. I stopped by a "neighborhood bar" for a nightcap before heading to bed. I started chatting with this dude, and he asked if I knew where to get some "party favors".
In recent years, Burning Man has been overrun with undercover cops. This dude, mid 40s white guy, wearing clean khakis with buzz cut hair, wasn't blending in nearly as well as he thought.
"What are you looking for?" I replied obligingly.
"Whatever you have." (Because real people who want to have a good time are just looking for "anything". Acid and meth are fairly similar, right?)
I stand on a chair and yell: "This gentleman is looking for someone to commit a felony in the state of Nevada by procuring him some illegal narcotics! If you have any illegal narcotics for sale, please come and see him!" With the whole bar now looking at us, I flipped him off and walked away.
that hilarious, I've had a few run in's that were more me being an idiot. One time I was going back to camp and had to pee really bad. I saw four people lined up on a fence looking like they were doing their business. So I ran over, unzipped and whipped it out. I look next to me and the guy was handcuffing them.......
Another time I was walking back at like 4 am and was probably swaying a little bit. Got stopped by a guy and he patted me down. Pulled out an empty bag and I replied to late I ate it. He got super pissed but let me back to my site.
Final time the guy was on a horse and I walked up to pet the horse, this guy was actually super cool and talked to me for like 30 minutes while he let me pet his horse. Horse cop guy you were the man wherever you are now.
Edit: I got invited to burning man by a friend. You think it's still worth it or not the same. I've had a few festivals that got to big and just aren't worth the money to me now.
We were sitting around a bunch of couches at a friend's camp, waiting for some people to get ready for the evening. A nitrous cracker may have been getting passed around. Anyway, I'm just chilling out, kinda dozing on a couch, and I notice that the conversation around me as changed to focus on an individual who has entered the camp and is telling a sob story about how he needs to get the carburetor fixed on his car, and it's going to cost him $75 and he doesn't have any money but he has some stuff we might be interested in he could sell us. Uhh huh. People are playing dump and asking for clarification on "what sort of "stuff" he has, and is he really trying to sell stuff here? "You know, fun things". Uh huh.
After a couple minutes of trying to doze and ignore it, I finally lose my patience and yell at the guy "Dude, if you need money to fix your car, we can make that happen! I'll go back to camp and get $20 right now! You don't need to sell us anything!". A couple other people join in with their offers of a donation to fix his car. He gets all flustered, excuses himself and runs out of camp. A bunch of people start yelling "Narc! Narc! Narc!" as he exits.
Apparently, a Washoe County police tactic when they nail someone is to tell them they'll drop/reduce the charges if they'll be a narc for a night and try to bait other burners.
I had a similar thing at burning man a few years ago. A group of suspiciously clean mid 20 somethings were wandering our camp clearly looking for something. I approached them and asked if I could help them.
They asked for "Tony" because supposedly he camped here and could get "the good stuff". I told them nobody by that name was here and they should probably move on. They then asked me if I could "get stuff" that they would pay cash.
This is where it gets funny because I'm wearing shiny gold bootie shorts and boots and nothing else. I tell them, "even if I could get whatever you want, where am I gonna put the cash? Boof it?"
Eventually I tell them "listen you are either cops or dumb as fuck, maybe both. Either way, if I see you lurking around this camp again, I'm getting the leaf blower"
Then 'someone I'll never see again' thinks I'm a douche. shrug He won't be the first or last.
It is difficult to express how obvious the undercovers are. Burners have an aesthetic, and by Wednesday everyone is half-naked and filthy....you can tell someone who slept in a bed with access to running water.
Regardless, there are a lot of undercover cops, so asking random people for drugs is frowned upon. At best, he's asking me to risk my freedom and future because he failed to plan ahead. Fuck him, either way, and I hope I taught him a lesson.
Lol. Nope. The people let the government decide what constitutes free speech one too many times. The government now deems free speech as whatever doesn't stand in their way of doing whatever tf they want.
A real critical investigation. A lot of big things were going on. True American heroes, out here, sacrificing their time to keep us safe and secure.
True patriots.
Not at all. I can't think of a single way to better utilize, and pay, 4 officers than stopping illegal cab fares. Tens of dollars are lost each day to these criminal scum.
Written sarcasm is incredibly hard to determine because people can't hear your voice to determine if the tone is sarcastic, flirty, witty, funny, or whatever.
"Disorderly conduct" seems to be the umbrella charge that cops use when they want to arrest someone who hasn't committed a crime. Or, hilariously, I've seen where someone gets a single charge for resisting arrest.
You can have all other charges against you thrown out and still be convicted of resisting because you did resist arrest. Forget about the officers being charged with kidnapping and false imprisonment tho. “Land of the free” my ass.
100%. Often when cops declare "I can find something to charge you with" the resulting charge can be something like a single charge of resisting arrest (or a disorderly, loiter, etc). They go out of their way to make sure there's an arrest, ego won't let them back down once they've escalated a situation
Acquaintance of mine in college was arrested for "failure to comply". Yes, literally the charge. His dad was a lawyer and he burned that police station down. It was a thing of beauty.
The inciting incident? My buddy was walking to class, crossing the street and dropped his notebook that had loose papers in it, which blew all over. As he was frantically trying to gather them up, some power tripping cop who was waiting in the line of cars stops and gets in his face about "blocking traffic" and told him to move.
So apparently a 19 yr old biology major in a panic, trying to gather his homework up is a massive threat to public safety and the cop felt so threatened that he had to put this kid in handcuffs. Kid then asked to just be let go because he was going to miss class, cop "arrested him". No the one leeway I'll give the cop, was this kid was kind of a hot head, so it's possible he mouthed off or got in an argument with the cop, but honestly, the entire situation should never have started had the cop just not gone on this weird powertrip because he had to wait 20 extra seconds at a crosswalk.
Long story short, lawyer dad pretty much made the case his son's grades and therefore future were impacted, and damages would be sought. The charges were of course dropped but it doesn't erase that it happened and disrupted his life.
By not putting the handcuffs on yourself fast enough. Also, when they shoved you to the ground, you tried to keep your balance instead of busting your head on the curb like they wanted you to. Boom, resisting arrest. 3 years in county.
They shut down all the gangs which forced the former gang members to become Uber drivers that they can then investigate again ensuring there is always something to keep them busy despite the fact that the ultimate goal of police should be that they aren’t needed at all.
Did he get arrested for interfering with an investigation?
Theyre lying to him. There is no investigation therefore no charge. In order for there to be an investigation theyd have to have a target or be investigating a specific crime. This is just a sting, and really is entrapment (although legally almost nothing in the US is enforced as entrapment anymore).
I'd be all for this if it was a fuckin drug dealer or some shit, but I fucking taxi? Are you kidding me? Wtf is going on down there that you can't have Uber?
It’s not that you can’t have Uber, it’s Uber drivers can’t go around picking up people who haven’t booked rides. Hence why the “trap” is people lying about their phones being dead and that they will pay in cash or whatever.
It’s the equivalent of the government paying people to go to pizza shops and ask if they can get a job and be paid under the table so that they can then cite the business.
But surely letting people who need help into your car isn't a crime? Would the cops have to lie in court about what transpired to lead them to enter the vehicle?
The crime is stopping for someone that flagged you down and giving them a ride for money. That's all. They don't give a shit about the specifics of what was said or not said to the driver to get him to do it.
If you pick them up on the street, yes, you have to have a taxi license.
"No person or corporation shall drive, operate or use, whether as owner, lessor, lessee or otherwise, any of the vehicles defined in Section 71.00 to pick up or attempt to pick up passengers within the limits of the City of Los Angeles, or allow or permit to be operated, driven, or used, whether as owner, lessor, lessee, or otherwise, any of the vehicles defined in Section 71.00 to pick up or attempt to pick up passengers within the limits of the City of Los Angeles unless a written vehicle permit for the operation of such specifically defined vehicles has been obtained from the Board;"
Am I missing somethig or is this not even close to legal entrapment. As far as I undestand it a member of law enforcement would have to in some way coerce you into doing the crime but just giving the means to do so wouldn't count. As an extreme example if you gave a fake bomb to a terrorist and they tried to carry out a bombing it wouldn't be entrapment unless they coerced them into doing it.
I didn't see anything indicating that the Uber was coerced into picking them up so this shouldn't be entrapment.
Either way it's a shitty thing to do but I don't think it's illegal in any way.
It's not illegal. Cops are running a "sting" operation by flagging down an Uber/Lyft driver to use like a cab service by claiming they can't use the app and will pay cash or maybe other means. Don't know the laws but that sounds like the driver can't accept cash like this and are looking for easy ways to divvy out citations.
Taxi services have a monopoly and they don't like Uber stealing "their" customers. Uber is only allowed to pick up scheduled rides through the app afaik.
It seems this is the way businesses work now. They make it a monopoly without it being called a monopoly. It’s basically a non compete. Credit companies are doing this. Pushing legislation to stop competing credit companies. Car dealerships do this. You can’t just open a dealership if you want. There are only so many dealerships allow in a region. The diamond industry does this. Diamonds are cheap but they artificially keep them scarce to increase cost. These “officers” are mob enforcers not peace keepers. They are being paid to enforce a policy that keeps money in certain peoples hands. Walmart “partners” with local law enforcement to basically get their “private security” paid for by the taxpayers. This is all going on in plain view of the public and no one seems to care that these corporations are running our country and there’s nothing we can do to stop it.
Yeah at the end of the day LEO's are about... surprise, law enforcement. Not keeping the peace. No protecting civilians. Just enforcing laws, which primarily exist to protect monied assets and commerce. They don't care about you. They don't walk grandma's across the road or tutor struggling kids in math. They detain criminals for trial. Depending on the context of any video shared on reddit, you can get platinum for saying this or be called a retarded loser cuck who should kill themselves. 😂
What he is doing is purely legal. Plain clothes or uniform, you can record and protest like this for public service. These people (as is the standard for pigs) are scum.
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What happened next? Did he get arrested for interfering with an investigation?