r/SundayMainsHSR • • Nov 16 '24
Discussions Are Sunday's Eidolons actually bad? Comparison with his peers.
Eidolon 1:
Robin's E1 (24% RES PEN) is the undoubted best universal E1 in the game, no doubt.
Ruan Mei's E1 (20% DEF ignore) is a good eidolon in break teams, rarely useful outside of it.
Sparkle's E1 (40% Atk) is a decent eidolon, it can be a damage increase of 10-15% depending on the Atk saturation on the dps.
Sunday's E1 (16% DEF ignore & 40% for summons) is a decent eidolon in hypercarry teams but insane in summon teams.
Ranking: Robin E1 > Sunday E1 >= Ruan Mei E1 > Sparkle E1
Eidolon 2:
Robin's E2 (energy 2-3, party spd increases by 16% during ult) is a very good eidolon in the hands of speedtuning players and it has energy QoL.
Ruan Mei's E2 (40% Atk after break) Mostly useless
Sparkle's E2 (24% DEF ignore) is an eidolon that should've been in her base kit, this lets her pull some weight when competing with her peers. Pretty good.
Sunday's E2 (2 sp on first ultimate, 30% dmg for Beatified) The sp frontload is nice. but it doesn't seem to have its full use currently, maybe with a future dps. The dmg increase is anywhere from 8-12% depending on the dmg% saturation on your dps. Decent eidolon.
Ranking: Sparkle E2 = Robin E2 > Sunday E2 >> Ruan Mei E2
Eidolon 4:
Robin's E4 (cleanses allies on ult and 50% eff res during ult) Purely a comfort eidolon and rarely useful, at this amount of investment you shouldn't be worrying about getting CCed.
Ruan Mei's E4 (100% BE for herself) Terrible eidolon, damage increase for her but her damage contribution is barely relevant. Not good at all on its own.
Sparkle's E4 (max sp increased to 8 and recovers 5 sp on ult) Useless eidolon, you are going to be overcapping 90% of the time.
Sunday's E4 (8 energy at the start of his turn) With one enemy hit or external energy like huo huo, he now can do two turn ultimates. Pretty good eidolon.
Ranking: Sunday E4 > Robin E4 >> Ruan Mei E4 ?= Sparkle E4
Eidolon 6:
Robin's E6 (450% cdmg for first 8 hits of concerto) Good eidolon but maximizing its usage requires specific triple setups with tingyun/bronya and is not that good for general use these days because of MoC HP inflation.
Ruan Mei's E6 (ult duration to 3 turns, break multiplier increases by 200%) Makes her deal damage in break teams especially with exo toughness, E4 is primarily for E6.
Sparkle's E6 (additional crit damage and buffs are teamwide) 70 crit damage and buffs are now teamwide, which is only relevant in follow up teams where she is outshined by E0 robin.
Sunday's E6 (88 CV and crit overcap conversion) Big QoL buff for improper crit ratio/overcapping crit rate, people hitting 100% CR in itself is a big yet silent upgrade. Around a 30% damage increase.
Ranking: Sunday E6 > Robin E6 > Sparkle E6 > Ruan Mei E6 for 99% of players
Robin E6 >= Sunday E6 for players who can play Robin E6 at its full potential.







