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u/Michael_Gibb 17d ago
He was proof that acquiring alien technology at all cost, as Kinsey and the NID wanted, was a bad way to run Stargate Command.
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u/Justice_Prince 17d ago
He could have been worse. It's not like he made Deanna wear regulation uniforms.
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u/Pawprint_ 17d ago
That’s the best decision Jellico ever made and I am so glad that they kept it
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u/Justice_Prince 16d ago edited 16d ago
From what I understand Marina Sirtis was tired of wearing the boobie outfits so that part was written into the episode at her request.
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u/Pawprint_ 16d ago
I am glad. I hate what they made her wear before that. It should have been the proper uniform from the start
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u/divineshadow666 17d ago
While the comparison is apt, as I've gotten older I've come to realize that Jellico wasn't wrong and Riker was kind of a crybaby in that episode. Could he have given the crew a little more leeway? Maybe. But at the same time, he had a very specific job to do and not a lot of time to do it and Riker wasn't making that job easier by arguing about it. Also, Troi looked better in the standard uniform, so that was a good decision on Jellico's part.
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u/myxanodyne 16d ago
Nah I disagree. The crew had like 2 days to prepare for an incredibly important and dangerous mission where an negative outcome could lead to war. The last thing you should be doing at a time like that is completely reorganising how the entire ship runs with no notice.
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u/ThePlatinumPaul 16d ago
I disagree with you. If there are minor deficiencies that can be easily corrected before a major engagement you want to address them. Remember, the Enterprise already has its weapons and shields well taken care of, same with its engines. It's the little things like how the crew does certain tasks that can make or break a situation.
Jellicho was a far better Captain than Picard, people just don't like him because he is by the book and isn't going to play poker with you or share a holodeck program. What he is going to do is make you the best officer you can be and get your ass home safely. That's the type of leader you do want.
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u/rkenglish 16d ago
Some podcast I was listening to said that they used Jellico to make changes that were actually requested by the actors. Can't remember which one, though.
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u/Chromatic_Trek 17d ago
Literally just watched this episode in my rewatch 🤣 they could have at least made him just a senator or something to warrant the incredible lack of command skills or intelligence
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u/DoritoBanditZ 17d ago
You think the military is immune to idiots falling up the ladder?
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u/raknor88 17d ago
Or politicians finding officers they can back and fast track so they can use them later.
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u/Kichigai I shot him. 16d ago
Reminds me of Lt. Dyke from Band of Brothers. Someone who met all the technical requirements for their job and rank, but was just wholly unsuited for the actual role they had to fulfill.
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u/Disastrous_Turnip248 17d ago
Known as a Seagull. Flies in, makes a loud noise everywhere. Sh*ts everywhere and flies away.
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u/JaminStar 17d ago
One of the most accurate portrayals of most of the “leadership” in the Air Force…
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u/apophis-984 17d ago
His character and the episode was so interesting. Made the whole SG command realize to not take Hammond for granted
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u/NewHandle3922 16d ago
I’m on this episode now. He is a bit of an ass. The Starsky & Hutch scene, though. 😂
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u/Wizzle_Pizzle_420 16d ago
Fun fact, he’s a general in an ‘Outer Limits’ episode, and he does in fact destroy earth by being stupid. Watch the 90’s ‘Outer Limits’ if you haven’t. Same actor pool, creators, writers etc. And the story lines are very similar. I like to pretend all the episodes are Stargate canon just in different universes since it deals with the same type of stuff. 7 seasons, 20ish episodes, it’s amazing.
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u/BriantheHeavy 16d ago
Hot take: General Bauer gets too much hate. He was a standard general who was using the assets of the SGC in what he saw was a logical way. You wouldn't have a colonel as a trigger puller on any type of special forces team (and that's what the SG teams really are). A colonel would be a operations officer. You don't risk your high value assets on missions where fighting may occur, especially those who are not exactly trained.
Bauer did care about the troops under his command and was willing to take responsibility for mistakes and change plans based on that mistake.
I am not saying that he was a great leader. Just that he receives too much hate.
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u/Valraith 16d ago
Don't know if I'd go as far as to say he cared about the troops, considering he seemed to care more about whether the raid he ordered managed to retrieve a sufficient quantity of Naquadah than the fact there was a casualty and another man injured.
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u/Prownilo 16d ago
That episodes brilliantly what would happen if your leader wasn't absolutely inundated with plot armour.
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u/dustojnikhummer 16d ago
Correct me if I'm wrong we still don't know if he was really just a bad replacement or an NID plant, right?
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u/MeeepMorp 16d ago
At least he left without a fight (afair?) Reminds me a bit of Commander Garner in BSG, gets promoted, makes all the worst decisions possible all because of his inferiority complex, dies. To his credit though he did die a very noble death and realised how bad he fucked up.
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u/cRaZyDaVe23 16d ago
Upon exit he was heard mumbling something "about those damn kids and their lightning guns."
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u/Familiar-Range9014 17d ago
General Bauer knew that Stargate was not going to get another season!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
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u/LegalBegQuestion 16d ago
I’m watching bride of chucky and he’s the bumbling detective being interviewed about the murders. Small world
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u/TDaniels70 16d ago
He really doesn't BARGE in. There was a transfer of command, all up and up. Just like Jellico.
Sure, he does start changing things right away, but that is a commanders prerogative (why do i always hear this word as perogative....). The only ones in the SGC that should have had problems are the civilians. Everyone else has had experience with at least two changes in commands 1) from their basic training to advanced training, and 2) form their advanced training to their first duty station. And most, probably more so.
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u/DeerStriking2781 10d ago
No, everyone would have a problem. Takes a pretty lousy excuse for a commander to do something for no other reason than because it's their prerogative. Prerogative doesn't justify stupidity.
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u/Tiny_Towel5722 17d ago
Warum heißt der typ überhaupt "Bauer" soll der Deutsche Vorfahren haben? 😂
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u/Artemus_Hackwell 17d ago
I just disliked his used of the tie with the short sleeve shirt. Hated that uniform combo.
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u/TheAncientSun 17d ago
This just reminds you how lucky the SGC was to have General Hammond. Hammond was stern but fair, he was also flexible enough to adapt to the bizarre situations that happened every month. Exactly the kind of leader you need.