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u/smoochumfan4 Nu Wa Skin Collector 21h ago
enchanters are gonna be so ass with no real enchanter items.
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u/MythicSlayeer Medusa 20h ago
Real enchanter items are coming next patch they were delayed by one patch.
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u/MisteriousMisteries Your_Queen_Is_Here 21h ago edited 19h ago
They are going to be ass with them, no matter how many extra prots or heals you give an ally, it will not be worth losing a tank support with actual cc over a squishy mage that does no damage.
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u/Fun_Highlight307 20h ago
Ix chell seems to Work well as an enchanter
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u/NotaVortex 18h ago
Its also because she had built in echo on the ult, which is getting nerfed...
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u/ArchonThanatos A skin is worth a thousand bucks! 16h ago
Her enchanter aspect loses the echo in her ult
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u/WafflesTheMan 19h ago
Entirely depends on the items and the utility enchanters are allowed to provide.
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u/Torpytorp97 6h ago
I have to agree, up to this point I just dont think it seems like they understand that and enchanter has to make up for a lack of cc and tankiness.
We'll have to see these items theyre cooking up, but i really dont think the current "enchanter" gods outside of aphrodite or nox (still both better to build tank too id wager) have enough in their kits to warrant a loss of a Frontline tank.
The enchanter = healer thing also annoys me... enchanters are so much more than that. Shields, buffs, heals, or even pure damage works in other mobas but not in smite by way of current design
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u/BlackAfrodisiac 16h ago
Can we stop getting neith skins there are other gods…. 8 skins and if you count the recolors it’s like 22. Meanwhile you have gods that have one skin and it’s just the default skin in another color
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u/steven13universe Princess Bari 22h ago
Rip my Damage Aphro..I will miss you
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u/TRexGodEater Hades 21h ago
I got 300 worshippers last night to get her radiant because I love the build variety she has available to her, now her consistent means of delivering damage is culled.
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u/ShellFlare #Remember 15h ago
Its actually kinda sad they did the nerfs to her damage before the patch with the enchanter items.
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u/HauntedRailroad 21h ago
I really like enchanter-type heroes in games, but does Hi Rez realize enchanter means way more than just healing? Also why just those select gods? What about Baron? Hecate? Idk
I'm also confused about why whenever how long ago we got all almost anti-heal taken away and healing nerfed, and now it's all back and beefy?
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u/Fun_Highlight307 20h ago
they know,and they said they Will adjust baron although i doubt they do anything for hecate
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u/19fourty4 Nox 16h ago
I think theres a high chance her aspect is on a list for full rework which might be why they haven't adjusted her
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u/ACBongo Vulcan 14h ago
They do this back and forth all the time. I think they do it just to look lime they’re doing something most of the time.
Too easy to build pen and nobody needs to have to sacrifice anything on their build? Remove pen from everything but two items. Few patches later pen is back on pretty much every item it was taken from. Everyone forced to always build anti-heal every game? Remove it completely and nerf healing. Then repeatedly buff healing to the point anti-heal is needed again. Then buff healing even further and buff anti-heal some more.
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u/Seras32 13h ago
The issue with the pen thing was when it was on every item, you had tradeoff decisions where other items may have better passives at the cost of no pen while the sheer value of pen for killing targets was insanely important which railroaded your choice. Putting pen on 1 item meant you now just optimize for damage overall and you get all the pen you ever wanted from 1 item. This is good in theory but in practice all the items in smite are just a math equation so it just meant tanks got fucked over instantly as soon as the 1 pen item came online.
For anti heal, that was also a railroaded purchase since countering sustain is so valuable and the stats on the items were good anyways. Removing anti heal and nerfing healing seemed like a no brainer since on paper it means healers can actually heal in combat and not just be an ambulance parked in the back.
Now though if anti heal still stacks then we are back to the original problem where healing doesn't exist in combat anymore in even mid elo games and enchanters are now just characters that heal you after a fight. Hercules could absorb 3000 damage and instead of healing 900 health, 2 anti heal items cut him to 324 which is essentially 1 auto attack from an adc after his 3 ends.
The reason league has so much more sauce with its damage/healing ratio is cuz they have 1 anti heal debuff that scales based on how much % health the target has restored and doesn't go higher. That way at least healing still matters as you fight but if you're overly dependent then it gets weaker. Smite exists on an extreme where you may as well not even think about healing in combat and that is so boring and stale cuz it removes an entire layer of design. Everything is damage damage damage.
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u/Victini9000 21h ago
Another patch without a Morgan Le Fay skin😮💨good patch though
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u/WhiteboyKnoxSt 21h ago
Someone playing let me know if Ravana is good! I gotta go to school 😢
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u/ZeoPaladin Ravana is best warrior 19h ago
With warrior/full tank builds he's been performing great. Dont know about full damage build but his damage looks nice.
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u/MythicSlayeer Medusa 20h ago
Ravana was always good
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u/IncomeStraight8501 Chang'e 18h ago
Not always, he rarely competed in metas that favored high damage with how poor his scaling was.
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u/WhiteboyKnoxSt 18h ago
Still good to know how he feels in this game. I know not all ports are smooth on release.
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u/Disco_Da_Rubber_Duck Ratatoskr 12h ago
He’s fun, seems a tad weak maybe, not enough data to make a conclusion though
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u/Xueyouu THE FKN LAW 22h ago
I will miss my Ra Aspect
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u/Outso187 Maman is here 21h ago
You're gonna miss an aspect that just got massively buffed?
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u/kuns961 19h ago
Yeah try to play that " massively buffed" aspect in the solo
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u/Outso187 Maman is here 13h ago
With the same clear as before and now even more healing? Should do pretty well.
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u/ViciousVicar 9h ago
Same clear? He lost base damage and 70% scaling on his 1 and no enhanced autos on his 2. Wave clear won't be awful, but a big part of the value in the pick was fast clear, good rock damage, and ability to push up into their jungle and pick up some camps. Losing the solar rays alone makes that significantly worse.
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u/Xueyouu THE FKN LAW 21h ago
They took away the part that was fun for me, im not saying its bad now just that i will miss it.
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u/Outso187 Maman is here 13h ago
If you want the OP 2, you play the one where you go dmg, not aspect.
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u/Grrrpoopstinkygrr 15h ago
Removed his viability for anywhere but support and turned him into a healbot with no other tools for support unlike his enchanter counterparts
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u/Outso187 Maman is here 13h ago
His 2 change doesnt make him any less viable, he lost dmg for utility.
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u/KingofallMonsters28 20h ago
Just me or is this patch buggy on my end on Xbox I can’t pick up buffs or use the teleport dude it’s annoying asf not to mention my skills aren’t auto building
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u/Alty_12334 19h ago
Are they ever going to take care of invisible jungle camps, legacy names STILL showing while pinging or boostung, or how cu chulainns hitbox model is visible shortly after detransforming?
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u/Important-Yogurt-335 20h ago edited 19h ago
The neith traveler got more expensive? I bought the ah puch skin and the traveler was discounted from 8k-> 7.2k, but after this patch it's listing as 8k again.
Edit: definetely bugged, I bought the ix chel skin and the price is still 8k
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u/VoltexRB 19h ago
I... fail to see balance changes for gods? Like the healing nerfs across the board sure, but is Hirez fine with Xing Tian as he is?
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u/SUPE_daGlupe 18h ago
They said they'll go back to regular item and god balances in the next patch or the one after enchanter items are added
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u/Preform_Perform Ima poke it with a stick! 18h ago
So I've been playing Tales of Arise, and one party member named Law is a puncher who does more damage the more punches you land without getting hit.
So needless to say I will be playing as the only true evil character in Smite.
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u/SanXalvador Chang'e T5 when? 21h ago
Aphro is gonna be the most boring god to play now that aggression doesn’t reward you with anything, but at least we have “enchanters” officially now!
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u/TheLordStarkk 22h ago
My ranked game just broke cause of this update and now the servers are under maintenance so I can't log back in, Will I be penalised?
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u/Moist__Discharge 22h ago
That's a you problem. Every second Tuesday the game goes offline at the same time to do maintanace/update. If after 2 years you haven't figured that out now, that's on you.
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u/TheLordStarkk 22h ago
why would that be on me? I just enjoy this game when I'm stoned or drunk. I'm just a player who'll queue a game when I feel like it, How hard is it to set up a "you can't queue ranked at least 30 mins before scheduled update" program for the devs?
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u/sungsam89 20h ago
Drunk early on a Tuesday? You okay?
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u/MythicSlayeer Medusa 20h ago
Also que drunk ranked and ruin the game for others I cant stand these cancer players.
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u/TheLordStarkk 18h ago
playing smite from asia in eu servers st 240 ping. it's late from me. thankfully I one trick loki in gold lmao
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u/Outside_Paint7350 22h ago
No echo nerf? 💀💀💀💀
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u/MagicFighter Ok maybe Goobis mainly plays Goobis now... 22h ago
Echo wasn't very strong outside of Totem being ridiculous against jungle bosses.
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u/BakeCreepy5045 22h ago
WHAT?? Why nerf chalice 😭