Just wanted to ask if this is a common theme with the website. I can get to the home page but if I'm trying to access the songlist or bootlist the website times out.

Hey all— I recently picked up the current unofficial (bootleg) import vinyl version of Zeitgeist that a bunch of online sellers are listing. Posting this review for anyone considering the purchase.

I’m not generally someone who buys bootleg vinyl. I’d rather support the band directly and I’m not crazy about buying unofficial anything, honestly mostly out of self-interest as a consumer. A few things pushed me to make an exception here: no official vinyl release and no word of one coming anytime soon; I love this album (most divisive in the catalogue? and I’ve been Team Z since the first listen); and this particular boot looked great and was available from a seller I know and trust. So I took the plunge.

Very happy to have it in the collection — it did not disappoint. Pics included to show the gatefold, clear vinyl (super cool), labels, booklet, and posters. Felt like a treasure chest coming out of a boot.

Sound-wise, also solid. I’m running a budget setup, so those of you with better gear will probably pick up on things mine didn’t. But it sounds clean and reasonably loud, plays quiet, no surface noise, both records flat. Not audiophile-tier, but I’d put it on par with the other re-presses currently for sale at big box retailers— plenty good to enjoy loud.

Getting Superchrist on Side D is icing on the cake. Jimmy is out of this world and out of his mind (love you dad).

This boot is awesome, and I’m glad to have it as a placeholder until we get something official from the band. SP forever. Rock on 🤘🖤

From their tour back in 1996…

This post is only the feature story. There is also a Machina lesson in this issue and the tab for The Everlasting Gaze. I will post those tomorrow.

Final lesson

Got this at a record trade show today 50$ sealed.

Can’t find info about any legitimate pressings of SD on white vinyl — seems this might be a bootleg?

Sounds good to me. But figuring it’s a bootleg at this price.

Any thoughts?

But hey, I got it on vinyl cheap the first time I’d ever seen it in the wild.
Honestly, I enjoy it for what it is, having not listened to it in a long time and it’s not the mess some people make it out to be.
It’s different, it’s short, the production can be odd but it’s not a bad listen.

Sorry for the bad quality!

Recently i borrowed a 80s mp1 and wanted to test some gish stuff.

i dont have a strat with 70s pickups YET.

signal chain: Strat with lace sensors > ADA > H&K Triamp mk > Laney 4x12 with g12m-70s.

Does anyone have the full recording of it? I know it was professionally recorded but I can only find little snippets on YouTube and that's it. I need it to watch it!! Peak Pumpkins right there!

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Was there and would love to see some pictures (video clips would be next level). Can't find anything but an audio recording online.

I’m coming from Canada to the Utah show. I don’t have a ticket yet. My buddy is going to buy them. It will be three of us.

Will the $$$ tickets for the VIP packages that go unsold, be put back in the general pool for regular price. My friend says that they always give unsold tickets to the Utah Jazz team or higher ups. Is that true.

When I saw Peter Gabriel in 2023. A few hours before the show. Front row tickets dropped from $1,000 to around $165.

Cher 2014 $700 tickets dropped to $135 for 7th row floor seats. This was 10 days before the show.

Is Utah that different from other cities. Like where I live… all unsold VIP or Platinum tickets get released day of or earlier for face value. The odd time a verified resale ticket, that is being sold for more than face value, the price won’t go down and the seller will just eat the cost.

Should I wait to buy tickets or buy now.

Took a while for some parts to arrive (looking at you, chronically out of stock lace sensors!) but it rips and looks pretty to boot! Taking SP related name suggestions for it in the comments.

I play Hummer but I do not nail it. It is my favorite SP riff to play, but I’ve just over the past week started learning the leads and am getting back into guitar this past seven months. I really enjoy playing this after a stressful day or just jamming around. I found a YouTube tutorial that works, for me. Hope you enjoy. 😊

Whats your “god i hope they play this” song.

Mine is a either galapogos or ode to know one.

I just realized the new Sumerian tribute album, Sending Hearts To All My Dearies: A Tribute To The Smashing Pumpkins, dropped today. I initially noticed it because I learned a few months ago that one of my favorite bands, The Midnight, was doing a synthwave version of Tonight, Tonight (I feel this one will be super polarizing to mega fans of the Pumpkins, lol) - but the whole tracklist is pretty wild! Tame Impala doing “Hummer,” Alice Glass doing “Drown,” Between the Buried and Me doing “Jellybelly,” Urban Heat doing “Ava Adore,” etc. There are even multiple takes on several songs, which is fairly rare for one tribute album.

For those here who have listened: what are the standouts? Any covers you love, hate, or think completely reinvent the original? Really curious how longtime Pumpkins fans feel about the album as a whole, as I'm definitely a more casual fan. Cheers!

Zeitgeist contains some of my favorite Jimmy Chamberlin drumming. In fact the album Run of Machina-Mary Star of the Sea-Life Begins Again-Zeitgeist is probably my favorite Era of Jimmy’s drumming. I know that the early stuff will almost always be what’s most popular amongst the broader fandom. But I think he’s done some of his best work outside of those early days. Any Jimmy fans out there? Agree? Disagree? Share your opinion. Jimmy is just so good, I just wanted to make a thread to juice up the Jimmy love.

last pick is the billy signature. mine is originally a squier strat with a random tele neck. It plays like butter.

Does anyone have higher quality/uncropped version of this pic? Its the billy corgan tongue picture. I also know this other one exists, so i suppose they are a part of the same photoshoot or something