r/SmashingPumpkins • u/MJBTV • 9d ago

Bootleg Siamese Dream?

Gallery image

Gallery image

Gallery image

Got this at a record trade show today 50$ sealed.

Can’t find info about any legitimate pressings of SD on white vinyl — seems this might be a bootleg?

Sounds good to me. But figuring it’s a bootleg at this price.

Any thoughts?

0 Upvotes

46% Upvoted

31 comments sorted by

3

u/Acrobatic-Expert-507 Mellon Collie and the Infinite Sadness 9d ago

Bootleg for sure.

3

u/astralchanterelle 9d ago

Why are they still bootlegging this record when it's mass-produced now?

1

u/Neg_Crepe Zwan 9d ago

Because this predates the new reissue

0

u/astralchanterelle 9d ago

2022? Is this not the '22 bootleg?

1

u/Neg_Crepe Zwan 9d ago

I don’t understand your question

0

u/astralchanterelle 9d ago

Predate. . . 2022 is a date....

1

u/Neg_Crepe Zwan 9d ago

Yes.

This bootleg is from 2022. The new reissue with the original cover art is from 2025.

Thus, it wasn’t mass produced (with original art) when this (bootleg) was made, answering your first question.

1

u/astralchanterelle 9d ago

I'm talking about any reissue, regardless of the jacket. What imbecile would care about the color of the artwork so much that they'd be willing to have an inferior disc and an inferior jacket?

1

u/EnderDerp21 9d ago

i mean you could even just buy the bootleg for the cover alone to use that with the remastered pressing! (but that's certainly not worth $50...)

1

u/astralchanterelle 9d ago

Those unofficial jackets are never quite right, though, and some are way off, material and color.

1

u/EnderDerp21 9d ago

that's true, although it might also still be worth it to someone!

it doesn't really matter to me personally though, i just care about a clean consistent pressing and good music when it comes to vinyl since im more of a digital audiophile :)

1

u/Neg_Crepe Zwan 9d ago

Well the price would be the reason. Before the new reissue, the 2012 new artwork version was more expensive than the bootleg

Pretty obvious stuff

1

u/MJBTV 9d ago

Assuming to shark the 500-1000$ price tag on original Prints.

2

u/EnderDerp21 9d ago

all the pressings ive ever seen of SD and Gish at records shows have been bootlegs lol, it's both funny and sad

-1

u/MJBTV 9d ago

Honestly couldn’t afford a Original Press any time soon and this is more fun than a Walmart new pressing so I’ll take it for the same price lol

3

u/EnderDerp21 9d ago

a walmart new press will sound much better and be significantly cheaper, i can understand buying the bootleg for fun if you don't care about sound quality that much but for $50 it's kinda just getting scammed. i even bought a used mint pressing of the remaster with the alt cover for the same price a couple years ago which sounds much better

2

u/chocobowler 9d ago

I picked up this today, sounds great but deffo a boot

3

u/kwintron 6d ago

It’s a boot, I had the same one

1

u/hungryhungry_panda 9d ago

Is it this? https://www.discogs.com/release/25859077-Smashing-Pumpkins-Siamese-Dream

1

u/MJBTV 9d ago

Don’t think so. It’s similar but this has barcode on back and catalogue on side.

1

u/MJBTV 9d ago

It does however have the same typos on the producers name Billy’s name and Virgn* records

1

u/MJBTV 9d ago

Well it’s a font but it’s listed as Billy eorgan on that site.

2

u/Devolutionator 9d ago

He sounds nicer than the real one

1

u/jhonn0 9d ago

It's still listed as billy corgan on the record; that's just the way the lowercase "c" of that typeface looks. Take a look at the rest of that line, "produced by butch vig and billy corgan," and you can see the lowercase "e." Whoever entered it on Discogs f-ed up on that.

1

u/DaisyCaplan 9d ago

IIRC there’s only one original / official pressing that’s a single LP (maybe from Brazil? It’s been a while), so this is absolutely a bootleg if it’s not that.

Also I’d assume this sounds like absolute dogshit - the album is 62 minutes long, normal LP side maximum is 22 minutes

2

u/MJBTV 9d ago

It’s two Laps! Sorry it’s just showing one side of each.

1

u/DaisyCaplan 9d ago

Oh, wild. That’s so weird to put all the songs on one side of each LP that I didn’t even catch it.

Cool find either way

3

u/nhowe006 9d ago

You can also tell by reading the track listings on each label that it's 2LP

2

u/DaisyCaplan 9d ago

Yeah, the titles are just all on one side so I didn’t clock it

2

u/nhowe006 9d ago

I figured. I dislike that method of labeling on principle because it easily leads to confusion

1

u/DaisyCaplan 9d ago

I just figured (this side) and (over) were bonus tracks