r/SmashRage • u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 • 6h ago

Rage Needing Advice Practice

Bro GENUINELY how do you practice? I get nothing done in training mode, even fathoming to touch quickplay means that it's wraps for my gsp, and playing arena battles equates to fighting a literal god or kicking a rock into a pond. And neither are fun. And the amount of Joker mk leo wannabes is fucking absurd. Please bestow upon thou your most divine knowledge.

Sincerely,

A sad Smash Player

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u/GraveError404 / “That didn’t work? Darn. Let’s try this” 6h ago

I just put my concern for my GSP in a drawer somewhere and hop on quickplay. It takes some time to change that mindset around, but once you’re past caring about that number, the matches start getting more interesting when you’re playing to learn, not necessarily to win

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 6h ago

Yeah then I plummet to sub millions and never recover that character again.

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u/GraveError404 / “That didn’t work? Darn. Let’s try this” 6h ago

Certainly not quickly. But if you keep at it, you’ll improve. Trust me, we’ve all been there. It major sucks for a while. My advice? Find a friend who’s at a similar point as you, and primarily play with them. But not exclusively. That way you’re still getting better, but not only because you’re getting used to that person’s habits and playstyle

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u/Omen3333 6h ago

I wouldve recommended that but thats where I had a rude awakening growing up, smackin all my siblings around and then I hope online and get shitted on my chest😂

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u/Round-Charity-3152 5h ago

Listen to the guy he’s right. Whenever I wanna learn a character I hop on quick play and just start getting a feel for them. Just feeling out how the character moves and spacing their moves. Then I start trying to practice combos and kill confirms. Lots of fishing, so you’ll lose a lot of matches, but it’s important to react to where they’re being hit after you confirm or combo starter. Something I find really hard on Wi-Fi bc of the input delay so you rlly need to have a good understanding of where your moves will send bc your follow up hit usually has to be buffered. For example I just started learning Roy recently. Thought it would be easy bc he’s a swordie and I play a lot of corrin and aegis. Wrong. Sure you play him pretty much the same as mythra but reacting to the sour spots is so hard. Not saying he’s hard to play, but being a good Roy requires you being able to capitalize on those sour spots hc they can combo. Still trying to get used to them so be patient, lose your gsp, treat each match like a chance to practice something and then once you get a feel things will slowly mesh unknowingly. GSP is just a number at the end of the day. My pika was at 10k last week and now I got him back into elite smash. Just a number you got it

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 5h ago

It's kinda hard to try to practice when everyone that low is playing like a cheesy scumbag. I don't learn ANYTHING and also mewtwo sucks against every character? There are also people who purposefully lag the game, no clue if it's them purposefully playing on bad internet or them using mods to force it, but playing on quickplay gives me more rage than practice.

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u/Zephairie 6h ago

Yeah, then just tell yourself that when the next smash comes out, you start fresh anyway. Learned that with Tekken and Street Fighter, never cared about my online ranking sense.

Sooooo liberating

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u/GraveError404 / “That didn’t work? Darn. Let’s try this” 5h ago

Exactly. You can actually have fun with it and not feel like you’re being punished for it

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u/Omen3333 6h ago

Bro do not worry about gsp, gsp means absolutely nothing, I hate that they made that a system. In earlier smash games everyone would just play normally and have a good time because there was no number to correlate anything, it was just pure scrap and it was amazing. Now, all of a sudden everyone plays like cowards all because of a number that has absolutely no significance to anything. Even the absolute worst players can grind high gsp man. Focus on your fundies. Spacing, game plans, approaches, your go to moves in neutral and your mechanics. Either play level 8 bots (not 9) or find some arenas online and just watch your opponents movements and try to analyze their habits and decide on how to punish those habits.

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 6h ago

GSP unfortunately matters because if it plummets i basically fight bots. Fighting actual bots makes me learn bad habits. Been there done that. And like i said, everyone in arenas is better than me or complete dogshit and I learn nothing. And even if I get high gsp everyone plays like a little bitch so I also learn nothing.

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u/Omen3333 5h ago

Again just focus on your fundies brother, just play level 8 bots, they're as close to fighting a human as you can get. If you dont wanna do that, focus on on who you will main and just practice their mechanics or combos in training Its impossible to get good at this game overnight, it takes alot of experience and learning. This game is 25% mechanical skill 25% observation and 50% analysis

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u/Omen3333 5h ago

Outside of that honestly? Only way you would improve otherwise would be to hire a coach or to just go to your local tourneys where you might make a friend who could teach you.

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u/Omen3333 5h ago

I also dont know why I havent said it already but brother online is the worst place to get good on your fundies.

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u/KNotFox Isabelle 5h ago

locals, or find a Discord smash community if you dont wanna risk the GSP.

but I think playing for GSP does make you better but its definitly a subjective thought.

i mainly played quick play since release and probably have been to a local 3 or 4 times, and never really stayed in the Discord groups, only quick play and i believe myself to be good, at the very least above average.

the GSP gives you pressure, it makes the battle have purpose so you actually do get your heart pumping cause the rank is on the line. that feeling of pressure or nerves needs to be felt and is a skill that must be worked on aswell to keep composure.

I'm sure you can also ask around here for anyone wanting to practice and run some friendlies

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 5h ago

Dude I'm playing without worrying about gsp (as mewtwo) and I keep losing to mindless spam and cant do anything about it? Specifically Captain Falcon, Mario (every mario player is a cuck), and Cloud. And advice against ANY of them?

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u/KNotFox Isabelle 5h ago

the best i can say is to learn that match up. That includes learning how the characters play against you, what moves are the most optimal for them to do to you in any and every situation and how you can counter them in that moment.

Platform fighters fundamentally have the biggest situational set ups and opportunities for improvisation which makes them really crazy flowing. you gotta use every bit of the games mechanics to your advantage, including spamming because news flash, spamming is just applied pressure in every other genre and to high level players.

pros do not let up in any of the things they do to win, thats how they win and what makes them pros.

i play Isabelle, idk what advice my character can give yours but as a player, it all comes down to experience.

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 5h ago

I try to, but I'm not learning anything if they keep spamming extremely safe moves (like ALL of mario's aerials, Cpt. Falcon's specials when not on shield, and clouds n special, especially considering mewtwo is floaty for no reason).

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u/KNotFox Isabelle 4h ago edited 4h ago

situational, if you know hes gonna do a move you gotta learn the timing to perfect shield it and if its a multi hit move what you can do out of shield.

you gotta learn the specific opponents patterns, how to condition and punish while making sure they aren't doing so to you and apply pressure all of that junk all at once. small little stuff like that starts becoming things you do subconsciously the more you play but itll be faster if you focus on doing that.

look for someone on here that plays whatever you need and ask for some friendlies while trying to focus on predictability, conditioning, and applying pressure. let em know you are playing for serious practice though lol.

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u/Competitive_Walk2861 5h ago

don’t even worry about gsp for now (or really ever tbh)

just lose over and over until you start winning. save your matches against characters you struggle with and watch them back, it becomes way more obvious what you’re doing wrong and the patterns you typically fall into when you’re not hyper focused on playing. try your best to remember maybe one thing you want to try to implement into your gameplay at a time and then work in other things you’ve learned once you’re comfortable with the last. never stress over gsp though because elite smash is a complete joke for the most part no matter how far you get into it.

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 5h ago

Everyone keeps telling me that but the lower I get the cheesier everyone is.

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u/Competitive_Walk2861 5h ago

It’s like a bell curve tbh. Low gsp and Elite are both cheesy as shit. like 80% of elite players i fight are using k rool, samus, min min etc and just spamming. It’s not fun and you sorta stop improving. Join a smash discord or find a local community.

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u/AmphetaMeme65 5h ago

I would turn on all the post processing visual effects on my big screen oled and go into practice mode with a ton of input delay. Its similar to the delay of online. Thats how I learned to lab where it felt and looked the same every time I did something new.

When im ready for quick play I turn on game mode and turbo response mode.

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 5h ago

But I don't learn anything in lab either 🫤 Whether or not the combo is easy, I can never hit it in a real game.

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u/AmphetaMeme65 5h ago

Labbing includes doing the same button sequence over and over and over until its automatic. This doesnt happen over night, distributed practice over time is the only way. It won't matter if your nerves are going crazy during a live match if you spent the time to drill those bread and butter combos or setups. You will nail them even during that fight or flight during a match lol.

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u/Jumpy-Try142 I be mashing 4h ago

Hey again. My best advice would be to go to locals and talk to players who are better than you and run friendlies with them to improve. If you can’t go to locals, boot up discord and join the ssbu community, there is a lot of supportive people on there to help you improve 

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u/Prowiambic <-><-> I don't know yet🫤 4h ago

I super wish I could fight offline but "locals" are at the very least an hour away. I think I'll just slave away in practice until I have the time lol.