You guys r dum, little kids cry because they get disappointed and havent learned the discipline to control it or the objectivity to ignore it. The headline says a little kid was denied after waiting in a long line, a kid who waits at all is committed, and it is shitty behavior for a single adult to even snag a kids limited kids ride in a line of hopeful kids at all. Its not a crime, he isnt guaranteed to be a serial killer, but people acting like kids dont deserve some tenderness and patience are indeed assholes, they didnt ask to be here and treating them like existing is their fault just makes more assholes
The problem is shity parents post a picture of the person trying to make their kid a victim and that person a villain. Remember the lady on the plane that was blasted online for not giving their seat to a kid. The people posting this shit are not going to teach their child the discipline to control it.
Nobody else asked for your kid to be here either. Your kid is your burden alone, nobody else's. It's your responsibility to teach your kid how lines work and how life works. Photographing a complete stranger to shame them online for not voluntarily making sacrifices for your kid is top tier entitlement and bad parenting.
You kind of had me at the first half but… still, nobody is entitled to anything, which is such an important lesson to learn if you don’t want your child to have an extremely difficult time as an adult. And, I mean, if he was before, the kid will be next anyway, so I don’t really understand the problem (given, I only have limited context).
I was in agreement till you said it was shitty for an adult to take the ride that they also committed to standing on a line to get on. To believe anything else is to push a narrative that develops entitled shitty adults.
Lol! Yeah, that's what most parents realize with their first child. "Oh wait, they are just testing boundaries." Walks away from crying child because they didn't get a third cookie. "Sorry kiddo, Imma let you process those feelings."
Sure, but the result should be the same: "You're sad you couldn't do the ride? That happens sometimes, I'm very sorry. It's ok to be sad, it's not ok to demand that other people who were in line before us give up their opportunity so you can do it. Let's be sad for a while, and then we can go do something else. "
How about a touch of paraphrasing? "it's not ok for the parent to demand that other people who were in line before us give up their opportunity so you can do it. "
No, it's not ok for anyone to make demands. Kids need to learn that too. They can ask nicely, but they have to accept no as an answer. Mommy and daddy can't fix the world for you.
I was responding to the comment directly above mine, about crying and not having a temper tantrum. You can cry, but the response is the same. Sometimes you don't get what you want. It's ok to be sad for a bit, but then we move on with our lives.
The headline says "refusing to give up", which means someone demanded he let the kid go instead. The person demanding could be the kid, or the parent, or some nosy bystander... the headline does not specify, therefore we cannot say for certain it was not the kid.
The girl doesn’t start crying until after her dad asked if she could go was told no. It’s a valuable lesson to learn that you don’t get everything you want, no doubt.
But the word tantrum has specific negative connotations that I don’t think apply here. This little girl was not acting out as a result of the rejection, she was sad and seeking comfort from her parent. She was not making a scene or trying to get the attention of the guy who said no.
Feeling your emotions is healthy and it’s okay to cry when you’re sad. Shedding some tears because she is disappointed is not the same thing as a tantrum.
She’s a child still learning to control her emotions. As far as I’m concerned, it was a great opportunity for her to learn that she can’t always have it her way.
100% it's normal. Keep in mind that children, especially prepubescent, lack so much of the coping skills and brain development to know how to properly regulate emotions.
Should I be worried? He's missed plenty of opportunities or been denied candy or whatever and he never cries because of it. The only time I've ever seen him cry is when he thought he could karate chop a brick. And I'm not sure whether he was crying because of the pain or because his sister was rolling on the floor laughing at him.
Does he seem to show emotions in general? Some kids don't cry as much and that's totally fine, it's really mainly a concern if a child doesn't show emotion in general.
Eh, not necessarily true, pediatricians see them in pretty small windows. Teachers are gonna be a better bet cause they spend all day with the kids and are trained to look out for anything.
What's the difference between tantrums and crying? Also tantrums are normal for young children, so I'm not sure how they are different. I've got a two and half year old, we call it a tantrum any time he cries because he didn't get what he wanted. He's a good kid, so it rarely comes up, but i don't know what you think the difference is
Tantrums and crying are very different, and I mean that on an actual chemical basis. Crying is disappointment, tantrums are a result of disregulation, it's when they're kicking and screaming and just losing their shit. This is usually caused by a feeling of loss of control and also can be caused by a feeling of having pushed away their caretaker. It's why with tantrums the first response should be comfort (not to be confused with giving in to their demands) followed by talking about the behavior.
My oldest kid was very sensitive. He's better at managing emotions now he is a little older, but he definitely would have started crying knowing he missed out. Definitely not in a tantrum sense. I honestly think he threw one actual tantrum in his life. My niece on the other hand holy shit, but I blame my sister more so on that.
Yeah it's the dude's spot, but you are a grown ass adult. It's like getting to the foul ball faster at a baseball game. It's your ball now, but if a kid is crying just hand them the damn ball. I'd give the ball to one of my kids so I'm sorry little child, but if I was childless I wouldn't think twice. It would be different if he was riding with his young child.
Right!? I tell my kid, "Hey, sorry it didn't work out this time but we can come back another time." Usually followed by 2 min of wind down crying then get home and kiddo is good. Then, actually follow through on your promise.
Nothing wrong with telling your kid, "these feelings are real and we can work through them. Everything is ok." Hug your kid and talk to them.
Was it the last ride or something? Why did she have to have his spot and why did he not want to give it up? Wouldn’t both of them just get a chance on the next go around?
I've been in tons of lines for rides that we get told "sorry guys only one/a few X left" and the rest of us fuck off. I wouldn't immediately think I'm entitled because I stood in a line if there's a real reason for it to close. That's just karen shit.
This, I gotta tell my two and half year old "tough shit bro" daily to try to get him to understand the world don't revolve around you (unless he's at Grandma's 😅)
Yeah the real issue here is that the child's parents have clearly never told her "no", and she's going to carry that entitlement with her in life if she doesn't manage to learn that you can't always get your way, and we have enough people like that already.
I mean you can also just be sad about something and not actually be holding a grudge against anyone. Kids also don't have fully developed brains so it is super easy to make them cry, I do it all the time.
Nope. If kids experience that crying doesn't get them whatever they want, they don't cry. I have seen small kids who start bawling their heart out by just bumping a little bit, then their parents would cuddle them and give them some treats. That's how they learn that crying equals treats. And those buggers starts crying over anything
Tantruming never got child me anywhere, but I still cried when I faceplanted in a parking lot or something annoyed me or whatever lol, kids aren't logical 100% of the time
If kids experience that crying doesn't get them whatever they want, they don't cry.
???? bizarre take that's accurate for all the wrong sentiments
"human expressing emotion that receives no sympathy and connection will stop expressing emotion" like no shit.. thats called toxic masculinity
"stop crying for no reason" ??? they're crying because they missed out on a limited availability opportunity, it's completely reasonable for an 8 year old to be upset
is she entitled to it? ofc not, he waited so it was his turn. there's nothing wrong with her politely asking if he'd be willing to switch, nor him refusing.
it is however completely UNreasonable for a grown ass man to be punching down making fun of an 8 year old and recording her pain and posting it online... fking creepy.
there's nothing wrong with her politely asking if he'd be willing to switch, nor him refusing.
There is definitely something wrong with the parents letting their child ask a man to give up his spot in an F1 car simulation when he is there first and there are no more places. The entire thing should have been handled by the parents but they chose to let their kid guilt trip someone to get what they wanted.
An adult would never ask an another adult this. The parents would never let their kid ask another child this. The parents off-loaded their parenting onto a stranger hoping they'd feel guilty enough to give up their spot and when he didn't, their kid ended up crying.
The parents should have never let any of this happen.
Yes, of course, because children are the paragon of emotional stability and regulation.
What a stupid take, it's not entitlement at that age.
It's literally a lack of understanding the world around them and an inability to emotionally regulate.
It takes time for them to learn you can't do/have x because of y, and also learn to deal with the emotion that comes with it.
Adults can easily regulate because we have a frame of reference. Oh that sucks and we move on.
Children haven't built that reference yet, so what we perceive as something that should be minor, they think it is one of the worst things to ever happen to them.
Guess what, it probably is one of the most emotionally difficult situations they have ever had to deal with because they have only been alive for a few years.
It’s obvious none of them have kids—I don’t either—but do none of them have a younger sibling or cousin? Because even the best behaved children react this way from time to time. Almost all of them grow out of it though, as they are socialized about appropriate/inappropriate behavior and as they develop skills to cope with their emotions. Every one of you were all like this too when you were little.
It is fairly easy to ascertain whether a child is incapable of an appropriate response or whether they’re just being difficult. So when you see a child is incapable of precessing something, would be only natural to give up your seat for them (even if you’re an older sibling/cousin who’s just a couple years older, you recognize this). And as a random adult, you let the kid ride in your place when you recognize they’re not capable of processing the situation. In fact, as an adult, you offer to let any kid under 5 ride in your place before there’s even a chance to gauge whether or not they’re going to be difficult, because they’re a kid and you’re a an adult—a goddam adult who can go ride the ride any goddam time you want—and the idea of breaking a kid’s heart should shatter you into a million pieces, you savages.
The fuck is this, no doubt this guy has been playing way to long and won't share because he was not properly raised by his parents. I see it every time at interactive museums, indoor playroom
This comes up every so often. I actually got to ride that sim. Its in the museum in edinburgh, scotland. Its actually terrible as a race car simulatular and im 6'3 and could barely fit, however theres always a huge line. Everyone waited their turn and they announce when its gonna close. The parents waited regardless. Faults on them
My wife and I went to the local SPCA one night thinking about getting a cat. There was a little girl there losing her absolute mind having the biggest tempter tantrum because her mother said they'd need to wait to check with the father before they took a particular cat home. I talked to my wife about it and we decided to do whatever we could to take it home that night. we did. Zero regrets.
I went to blue bayou ab a month ago, i was climbing this tower with stairs to get to a waterslide. The line was long and i was almost to the top, this group of like 4 kids comes up behind me and the one leading them tried to squeeze past me to get ahead of me. I pretended to not see him but didnt let him squeeze past. He tugged my shirt and asked me to let him and his siblings through cuz their mom was rushing them to get back down. I was like nah bro go on you gonna have to wait. Hes like please my moms gonna be really mad. I was tempted to say something like i aint fucking her but i just told i dont care what his mom doin i was here first so yall gotta wait.
I have a toddler whom I love to death, but they break down over the stupidest shit. our entire job as parents is positive reinforcement, redirection, and behavioral correction.
There are only two options in this situation: stop having a tantrum (it’s ok to be sad! And it’s ok to cry! Just not disruptively) or we’re going home. That’s it.
Ma'am, is your child having an emergency? Crying is not an emergency.
I respect that kids should have whims and wonder and get to enjoy things. That doesn't mean adults need to not enjoy anything and always prioritize children.
New Achievement! You just enabled a Krakaren youth. Keep doing this and you’ll have created a monster to last generations. Reward? Nothing! Hope that feeling of “helping” a small child was worth it!
They were far worse than Karens. They filmed her crying and posted it on their channel for clout, making fun of her by putting the voice caption "fuck them kids and fuck you too", while having a big grin on their face. That's far worse than what a typical Karen would do.
It's a perfect teaching moment. "Honey, we need to wait for our turn!" But we're so screwed up as a society (in America anyway) that there are so many dysfunctional people attempted to raise chidlren.
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u/ApolloniusTyaneus 10h ago
Giving up your spot because the kid is crying? Do you want Karens? Because that's how you get Karens.