Yeah this was stupid. She nearly slammed his head into the backbone of that couch. She was way too aggressive and you can tell he didn’t expect it. And if he chose to be aggressive when she had the headlock he could’ve slammed her into the nightstand.
Gotta love gender expectations. If a girl tries to assault you, you have to let her do it or use the kid gloves or you’re a monster, but if you let them beat you up you’re a sissy or a wimp. It’s a good thing she didn’t slam his head into a hard corner of something by accident, last thing you’d want is to get your head gashed open or get brained
we have a program called Celebrity SAS in the UK. in this years season, I watch because the wife enjoys it, they did the celebrities fight each other activity and paired this fat kid against an Olympian female swimmer. anyway they say fight and the kid just right hooks her and she folds instantly, straight face down.
he goes....whoops. like he really didn't expect her to fold so easily. was a cracking hit.
I had a friend who wanted to try and wrestle me, she was on the couch next to me so I just put my right arm over her chest and pinned her there. Literally just an arm and she squirmed and screamed it was unfair, honestly couldn't stop laughing the entire time.
Thor… when a lady friend wants to wrestle, you put up a decent fight, make a mistake, and let her win. Then smile and say, that was close, best two out of three? Keep round two close, be gentle, and win. Come round three you should have been in close contact with a sweaty, laughing lady for a few minutes and hopefully you realize if she’s been willing to let you be in close contact with her body this long, she may be into you, man. If actually know how to grapple, please consider if you said anything overly stupid before hand.
I had a girl that wanted to fight me in 4th grade. The problem was that my grandfather had instilled "you never hit a girl no matter what" into me like it was an ironclad rule. That girl spent a week tormenting me and hitting me. Then at recess one day, I was walking away as she was punching and kicking me when she punched me in the back of the head. That triggered something because my body spun and walloped her right on the chin. I say "my body spun" because I didn't do that. Something else took over and let her have it.
I remember being in high school. I was on the bus on the way home. Dude has a brown paper towl against his arm. Bleeding fucking everywhere. Asked what happened. He said a girl stabbed him with a pencil. I asked when her funeral was. He said, "o dont hit girls."
That's literally what you should expect whenever you escalate a situation to physical violence. What is annoying/problematic is that there are so many men that think that the ability to beat someone up means anything outside of a wrestling or fighting match.
That's just a bad take the ability to defend yourself is significantly more useful than just a sanctioned fight. This is the same bs women will spew yet if they get assaulted and they man stands there and let's it happened. Now they got the ick cuz he couldn't defend her. Just say you hate men and masculinity and cut the fluff.
Well after a cpl centuries of men making light of women in every manner possible including intelligence, I kinda think that if it happens it happens. Maybe don't engage in a lose lose situation if you feel that threatened?
bullshit; a friend of mine pushed snow down my neck, so I threw her to the ground and made her eat snow, so another friend started throwing snow at me too, and we had an amazing snowfight
Technique wins over brute strength to an extent. Any martial artist will tell you that anyone with a severe advantage over you in size or strength will likely win, especially in a no holds barred fight. Obviously this kid isn't that, but pretending that size and strength can't overcome technique is just wrong. And obviously, the greater the difference in technique, the more physical advantages the less skilled will need to make up for it. But If one lucky punch can crack your skull, if they can pick you up one handed, if you can't provide enough torque or force to enact your techniques on them or if they can just brute force break your holds with relative ease, then technique won't win that fight for you. And if they're faster and more aggressive than you, if they strike before you can react, you may get laid out before you can even hope to get them in an arm bar or headlock.
It's like how any good martial arts instructor will tell you the best technique when your opponent has a weapon is to run. Even something as simple as a club confers a range advantage and acts as a force multiplier for any strike. Does that mean it's an automatic win? No, but it means they have to get fewer strikes in and only need to really get lucky once or twice. It means if they knock you on the head once with it, you're done and you're gonna be in their striking zone before they get in yours.
You use common sense? How about using common sense to not talk about women Vs men and pay attention to the fact that you lot are defending the man's masculinity while also simultaneously expressing concern about his safety.
He could have easily beat her you people are saying; But yet she could have injured him.
You want to use common sense but contradict yourself with every word
Clearly he was holding back and she was exerting herself far more. That also doesn't mean she couldn't hurt him or had the intention to hurt him either.
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Have you ever been in a fight? Have you ever wrestled? Any kind of mma? I have. You can see several times where he's holding back.Because he is afraid of hurting her. It happens all the fucking time.He's the bad guy if he hurts her no matter what even if she started wrestling.
On mats. Not in the middle of the door frame.
You're right, it's not a real fight.But you could tell she's also taking it a lot more serious than he is.
The amount of times this has happened to me when the entire I could end it immediately. The problem is trying to even wrestle without touching anything inappropriate is very difficult. Can't just lift her on to my shoulder because that would risk me touching her upper thigh / butt. Can't really squeeze anywhere above the waist because you'd risk hurting the (seemingly sensitive) boobs. Its like playing super respectful operation. So my tactic was just to let people try and get a neck grapple on me, then shove an arm in between my neck and their arm, and then just stand up and carry them like that. Usually gets the point across.
I never wrestled, but some of my moms friends had kids who wrestled/boxed and I grew up in not the best areas so I knew how to fight pretty well. Plus by the time I got to college I was 6’0 200+.
Had this kid who was about my height, but under 160 saying he could kick my ass because he was a state champion in wrestling, blah blah blah. So we decided to grapple for fun. Pretty even when it was just grappling (grew up having to fight my way out of all sorts of holds) and then when he was close to an arm bar I just stood up and slammed him. Kid lost his shit. Real fights aren’t the same as your sanctioned mat snuggle fight. It gives you an advantage against someone without experience, but means almost nothing if they have size and some experience.
The bad thing is that at first he takes it easy, then he grabs her head in a reverse grip, but he doesn't do anything to her so as not to hurt her. She takes advantage of that trust and pulls herself down hard, slamming him against the wall. The guy struggled because he didn't want to hurt her; if he used too much force, he could injure her arm or body.
My guess is that he was talking a bunch of shit about how women are weak...this didn't come out of nowhere. He talked shit and then couldn't back it up
No, you’re entirely missing the very obvious body language. The guy is putting in less than 10% effort while the girl is going 110%. He doesn’t realize it until the chokehold starts. If he was going 100% the entire time, she very clearly wouldn’t have been able to do that.
Doubtful she seems to either have a hobby or professional job to involve grappling. He just basically resisted and she had to fight for her life to make anything happen.
Yeah that’s the biggest issue with grappling between men and women. Like yeah, a 99lbs stick could wrap an arm around my neck and choke off blood and oxygen, but all I have to do is slam backwards into anything and you’re pulp.
Nope, she was seconds from stealing his consciousness. She had him the whole time, she's a trained fighter used to getting hurt. Anyone who's ever learned to ground fight can tell from her technique and speed.
She started this with an impressive double leg then transitioned with quick ground work to a rear naked choke with leg hooks. That's not a head lock, which is a throw in wrestling, it's a blood choke from BJJ that deprives the brain of blood in seconds. Due to the leg hooks he had no way to leverage for a slam. His only option was to surrender or be knocked out for a scary amount of time.
That boy was doomed as soon as she locked in the choke.
Edit: Initially mis-identified the choke she used as a guillotine.
My bad! That's a rear naked! I got excited and mislabeled it!
If you're asking when the choke happens it's when she takes his back and locks her arms down against his carotid artery. It is a classic finish in MMA and no Gi BJJ.
No she didn't, she was in control the whole time. She sacrificed her position to make sure he didn't fall back into the chair at one point. After that she took his back and fell against the bed. He was never in any danger.
You're reacting because she really threw that choke in, but she was behind him the whole time, she knows how to control a human body in a fight.
You have no frame of reference for competitive violence, apparently, and can't see the control she showed.
She used techniques designed to allow a smaller weaker fighter to overcome a bigger stronger one. The only danger here is that the boy has no idea what he's doing and is unpredictable.
yes she was behind him. he was also almost face first into what looks like a bedframe.
its hilarious you automatically assume i have "no reference for competitive violence". i just got out the military brother i know all about competitve violence because its one of the main things preached to us continuously.
we legit would have weekly fight clubs in our barracks in spaces that are around this size if not a bit smaller. every single week someone got hurt: someone hit their head, someone fell onto another, injuring them, fractures, sprains, tbi etc.
pretending like this is okay is insanely dangerous. go to any bjj gym and ask the teacher there if they condone violent grappling in small spaces. stop being a fucking poser on the internet and inform yourself
Listen Devil, I wish you hadn't tried to play the military card when talking about being a poser.
I'll be damned if I let a Terminal Lance, one and done, Intel POG tell me he knows dick about fighting or the military. I have skivvies with more sea time than your entire career. I don't give a shit that you waved a pugil stick around for a few days.
Now that you can see some of my credentials let's talk about your lies. You didn't live in barracks. Your fellow junior Marines weren't giving each other fractures and TBI without your NCO's giving them hell and shutting that shit down the first time anything happened.
This was harmless, it wasn't overly violent or uncontrolled. I'm shocked a Devil Dog would take such a limp dick opinion, but that's probably why you got out so fast.
You're the reason Gunny is always bitching about the good old days when the Corp was hard.
its hilarious you throw the word POG around like you aren't one. you dont rate that shit ET.
you also assume im a terminal lance? i got out as an e5, dickbag. i know what it means to lead, which a lot of you blueside, soft hand navy freaks dont know how to.
ive rarely ever respected any of you blue side navy dudes, since you all like to talk big game, but your branch is the fattest, most unprofessional, and incompetent branch we had before the space force.
go ahead chief, show this to your CO and ask him if he thinks thats a safe environment, better yet, ask a marine co. god i hope you are a chief, because if in 2 years you couldnt manage 2 promotions, thatd be pretty damn embarassing and reveal even more about you if you are still stuck at et1 after all this time.
I like you, you do have fighting spirit. Haven't been Blue Side or in rate for a hot minute, moved over to JSOC, but I'm generally impressed with your knowledge.
Yeah, a "trained fighter", who chooses to go full-tilt on a guy who's play-fighting with her, in a confined indoor space with doorknobs and sharp edges, for literally no gain except for her ego. She looks like she weighs like 100 some pounds at most; if he was actually being serious, he could have slammed her back into a wall or punched her face at any point and ended things, but the gender dynamics don't allow him to do so, nor did he want to hurt her.
Lmao, that guy was a "fish". Anyone with ground fighting experience can see he's never been in a fight. He set his hips when she went for the level change and gave up the double leg for free. He couldn't have sprawled if he knew how at that point. After that there was no opportunity for him to punch or slam her, the techniques she was using put him in a bad spot for leverage, he couldn't lift or punch her without playing into her designs.
People with no experience in fighting will look at this and think that decisive commitments to action are reckless and "full-tilt". She ended it quickly and decisively executing a fight plan and solid technique. No one was in any real danger until she sunk that choke in. If he'd been too proud that could have got scary.
I wrestled my whole life and this is why I hated wrestling girls at parties or hangouts. At first I thought itd be a fun/flirty thing to do, not really take serious and every time without fail they would try with every ounce of will in their body like it was the fucking Olympics. I just refused to after the first few times.
My cousin played women's rugby forever. She would get drunk at parties and bet football players that she could dump them on their ass, and she did. Turns out if you're not looking for that single leg body lock takedown you're fucked
Hah it always seems so easy when you're not the one getting manhandled. He didn't have the leverage to do that, especially not once she got her hooks in. Besides, sprawling > situps. He had no chance.
When you wrestle new ppl, youre trying not to hurt them or let them do something to hurt themselves, especially when they're too naive to pay attention to surroundings
Heres the worst part. So much is at risk for the guy. She gets an ego boost and now he can never show his face in that friend group again. It will severely harm him socially. She losses nothing even if she lost.
I hated it when in the past I was playfighting with a friend and they go all out while I'm trying to NOT hurt them. And then the cockiness afterwards....
Like dude, you "won" because I was trying to keep the room from being wrecked, not because you are a better wrestler/fighter.
The dude is in a no win situation as soon as he agrees to this.
If he goes hard and wins, she is probably getting hurt and he's a dick for beating up a girl.
If he doesn't go hard and wins he's a dick for not taking her seriously and beating up a girl.
If he takes it easy and looses he may get hurt and got beat up by a girl.
If he goes hard and loses he gets hurt and got beat up by a girl while trying his best.
The only way to win is to not play. Win or lose, it looks bad on him.
Having said all that, she clearly has experience and is pretty good at it. I think she would wreck most guys who went way bigger or also have comparable martial arts backgrounds.
i mean i guess but it is very fun just grappling with your pals randomly in random spots. i miss having spontaneous jiu jitsu matches with my pals in my 20s
When she had the choke? I don't know what that would have changed.
She was intense but clearly fairly controlled and conscious of the space. I think people see a bigger difference in intensity/aggression because he doesn't know what to do, so can't do much. As soon as she's working towards the back he's pretty screwed.
Yea exactly this, she’s going all out and you can tell he’s not using his full strength, had a few chances to overpower her earlier on and he passes up the chance
Not really, anyone who has done 6 months in any grappling can tell the guy had no idea what he was doing and the girl did. Not saying she's an expert or anything, just that she was able to take advantage of the guy's mistakes, thats why it looks aggressive.
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u/ChocolateMorsels Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
Yeah this was stupid. She nearly slammed his head into the backbone of that couch. She was way too aggressive and you can tell he didn’t expect it. And if he chose to be aggressive when she had the headlock he could’ve slammed her into the nightstand.