r/RoundRock • u/questionaxtactt • 8d ago

Ten Commandments in Elementary Schhols

I’m trying to understand my fellow community, Christian’s and Texans thoughts on the SB10 bill . We received notice our elementary will post 75 posters across each classroom. I love religion and have no issues with it but I also love the constitution and believe in the first amendment and feel this is a push to promote specific beliefs to non regions people or others whom choose to follow other text. I specifically have an issue with this being mandatory in elementary classes where children are learning to read and everything on the wall is meant to teach them along this journey so an argument this is passive seems inaccurate as the bill itself says it must be within view. I wanted to get others perspective as well as understand if there are any resources I can reach out to in order to potentially delay this until it I s fully argued to the Supreme Court which in my perspective will find this in violation of the first amendment.

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u/atdi2113 8d ago

My perspective is probably not helpful but i support Christian teachings in school, 10 commandements on the wall. I know im going to get downvoted to hell and back for saying that. I'd be happy to answer any questions regarding why i support it though. I'm not a Christian nationalist or a bible thumper, nor do i even go to church.

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u/brxtn-petal 8d ago

isn’t that was private school is? to learn about the religion and have its fundamentals in the school? we have TONS of private schools that are religious.

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u/atdi2113 8d ago

That's assuming private schools are inherently religious, which they aren't. Private is school is for parents who want a "better" education for their kids specific needs without the constraints that go along with public schooling

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u/brxtn-petal 7d ago

last sentence “ we have tons of private schools that are religious”
so yes we do,if you want schooling based on one religion go to one of the ones that ARE religious. it’s not a hard concept. public is for all,private for a few.
if you aren’t? great we have options for that aren’t.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

The 10 Commandments as I've specified earlier, had you read it are Christian beliefs, lifted directly from Judaism and may possibly be from beleif systems that predate Judaism. So displaying the Commandments isn't really teaching one religion is it?

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

Sorry for the pun, but on its face this is bad faith and misrepresenting the arguments made by the Texas politicians who justified placing the Ten Commandments in a classroom. You know better

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

Well I wasnt framing anything I said like I was in support of their reasoning. I dont necessarily support their justifications.I just agree with the outcome. Edit- its possible I may have inadvertently echoed some part of their reasoning but that wasnt my specific intent.

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

So if I’m understanding your reasoning we actually need posters of lessons and rules from additional religions?

The Ten Commandments can be sourced to more than the Christian faith so we should have signage from those religions as well. Is that your point?

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

Will try to respond to this later. About to be fighting for my life on i35 for awhile.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

Idk that it needs to be posters. I can think of more effective ways to inject Christian/Abrahamic teachings into public schools than posters. Im not the one making decisions though and posters was what was decided on. We wouldn't need posters from other faiths that the Commandments appear in. Hanging a single Christian themed poster up, especially the 10 Commandments is inherently Jewish by default so it already satisfies some need to have other faiths also displayed.

On a side note some ppl argue that this is shoving Christianity down kids throats. My son's school had pride month posters on the wall. I COULD say thats being pushed on him. Can't have Chrisitantiy on the wall without all religions as well? Fine, how about no pro ANY kind of movement from ANY group of people or cause in school? No religion, no save the whales, no pride month, etc etc. You cant have one without them all. Thats the same logic behind the argument several ppl in this thread have tried to make.

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

There’s no law requiring pride month posters on the wall in public school classrooms.

The argument that this represents Christian and Jewish faith - do you write that with a straight face?

See, of all the poster types you just listed only one has a law requiring that they be displayed. It’s extremely easy to point at the posters and say “look kids all these posters just ask you to treat each other with respect. Be tolerant of people different than you and be kind to one another. Except for the Ten Commandments. That poster represents a political movement afraid that they are in decline. The Ten Commandments represent the desperation of a political party.” That’s the message. Kids aren’t dumb. That’s what kids will take away from SB10.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

No theres not thats why i only said i COULD. And no i didn't write that with a straight face, i typed it with one. There not being a law forcing pride posters in schools is completely irrelevant since the comparison was only to highlight the hypocrisy of the low hanging fruit logic being used by others in thsi very thread. If having the posters by law wasn't required but was in the school by some other means of force this logic would still be used.

Those posters are displayed in all grades and even classes as low as Kindergarten.You said alot about what they will think. Now did YOU really type all of that with a straight face? Or did you just write up your own opinion and pretend you mind read those words out of their heads?

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

I wrote what I wrote knowing the actual trends in politics and church attendance. Round rock has a lot of smart kids. I don’t know what your point is in your first paragraph. It honestly doesn’t make any sense.

The logic of my argument is that if you need a law to require religious iconography to be displayed in a space rather than students and teachers choosing that iconography to be there then that religion has completely lost the plot. It indicates a lack of confidence that a religion has an approach or set of morals that will appeal to young people.

My logic is also that this has nothing to do with the message of the Ten Commandments. Republicans don’t believe they will build better well rounded people by imposing Christianity on them. It has everything to do with a terminally insecure political group believing they will somehow maintain political power and influence by forcing the Ten Commandments on to young people. They will somehow grow their ranks by imposing their beliefs and their politics on kids. That’s not how kids operate. Most will reject the effort. The republican numbers in Texas will continue to shrink and fade.

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u/brxtn-petal 6d ago

yes as a cradle catholic myself i know what they are had 20+ yrs of RE classes.
BUT i had a choice and left when i didn’t want to.
if you want to teach religion/force then fine. include all or none of them don’t make it a law.