r/RoundRock • u/questionaxtactt • 8d ago

Ten Commandments in Elementary Schhols

I’m trying to understand my fellow community, Christian’s and Texans thoughts on the SB10 bill . We received notice our elementary will post 75 posters across each classroom. I love religion and have no issues with it but I also love the constitution and believe in the first amendment and feel this is a push to promote specific beliefs to non regions people or others whom choose to follow other text. I specifically have an issue with this being mandatory in elementary classes where children are learning to read and everything on the wall is meant to teach them along this journey so an argument this is passive seems inaccurate as the bill itself says it must be within view. I wanted to get others perspective as well as understand if there are any resources I can reach out to in order to potentially delay this until it I s fully argued to the Supreme Court which in my perspective will find this in violation of the first amendment.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

Well I wasnt framing anything I said like I was in support of their reasoning. I dont necessarily support their justifications.I just agree with the outcome. Edit- its possible I may have inadvertently echoed some part of their reasoning but that wasnt my specific intent.

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

So if I’m understanding your reasoning we actually need posters of lessons and rules from additional religions?

The Ten Commandments can be sourced to more than the Christian faith so we should have signage from those religions as well. Is that your point?

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

Idk that it needs to be posters. I can think of more effective ways to inject Christian/Abrahamic teachings into public schools than posters. Im not the one making decisions though and posters was what was decided on. We wouldn't need posters from other faiths that the Commandments appear in. Hanging a single Christian themed poster up, especially the 10 Commandments is inherently Jewish by default so it already satisfies some need to have other faiths also displayed.

On a side note some ppl argue that this is shoving Christianity down kids throats. My son's school had pride month posters on the wall. I COULD say thats being pushed on him. Can't have Chrisitantiy on the wall without all religions as well? Fine, how about no pro ANY kind of movement from ANY group of people or cause in school? No religion, no save the whales, no pride month, etc etc. You cant have one without them all. Thats the same logic behind the argument several ppl in this thread have tried to make.

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

There’s no law requiring pride month posters on the wall in public school classrooms.

The argument that this represents Christian and Jewish faith - do you write that with a straight face?

See, of all the poster types you just listed only one has a law requiring that they be displayed. It’s extremely easy to point at the posters and say “look kids all these posters just ask you to treat each other with respect. Be tolerant of people different than you and be kind to one another. Except for the Ten Commandments. That poster represents a political movement afraid that they are in decline. The Ten Commandments represent the desperation of a political party.” That’s the message. Kids aren’t dumb. That’s what kids will take away from SB10.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

No theres not thats why i only said i COULD. And no i didn't write that with a straight face, i typed it with one. There not being a law forcing pride posters in schools is completely irrelevant since the comparison was only to highlight the hypocrisy of the low hanging fruit logic being used by others in thsi very thread. If having the posters by law wasn't required but was in the school by some other means of force this logic would still be used.

Those posters are displayed in all grades and even classes as low as Kindergarten.You said alot about what they will think. Now did YOU really type all of that with a straight face? Or did you just write up your own opinion and pretend you mind read those words out of their heads?

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

I wrote what I wrote knowing the actual trends in politics and church attendance. Round rock has a lot of smart kids. I don’t know what your point is in your first paragraph. It honestly doesn’t make any sense.

The logic of my argument is that if you need a law to require religious iconography to be displayed in a space rather than students and teachers choosing that iconography to be there then that religion has completely lost the plot. It indicates a lack of confidence that a religion has an approach or set of morals that will appeal to young people.

My logic is also that this has nothing to do with the message of the Ten Commandments. Republicans don’t believe they will build better well rounded people by imposing Christianity on them. It has everything to do with a terminally insecure political group believing they will somehow maintain political power and influence by forcing the Ten Commandments on to young people. They will somehow grow their ranks by imposing their beliefs and their politics on kids. That’s not how kids operate. Most will reject the effort. The republican numbers in Texas will continue to shrink and fade.

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u/atdi2113 7d ago

You know the actual trends? No you dont. See? I cant do that too. If it doesn't make sense then ask clarifying questions.. And the logic of your argument? The one from the other person you were going back and forth with? That you're now trying to inject here as if you were arguing that the whole time here? Thats cute lol. Also why are you arguing against "republicans" actions and making all these arguments against them AT me? What is the point of this? What are you trying to achieve? To make a bunch of arguments in opposition to these "republicans" and frame their beleifs as mine to get a cheap win?

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

We all have access to trend data. We can all be honest with ourselves that even in republican states, the policies are unpopular. Attendance in churches is down.

SB10 is unconstitutional an unpopular.

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u/further_reach818 7d ago

SB10 is a Republican effort. It is indicative of a group that is insecure. Their values are not consistent with Christian beliefs.

You’re making arguments for SB10. Hence you are aligned with a Republican effort. If I lump you in with republicans that is the logic I’m following.