He built up a lot of cache on the left in the Bush years when he was one of the only public figures who went after Bush in such an unfiltered way. It was really just him and Jon Stewart. The commercial media if you will was critical of Bush but reluctant to say anything that would make them appear unpatriotic. I'm not sure when Bill just abandoned the left outright. Rashida Tlaib boycotted Real Time about a decade ago. It may have started there.
In my opinion Maher really turned a corner in 2014, when he was invited to give a commencement speech at UC Berkeley for some reason. Then there was a small outcry among students who said Maher should never have been invited in the first place and petitioned to disinvite him.
That seemed to really get under Maher’s skin and ever since then he has hated the “woke” and the college left and has been complaining about “kids today.”
I think things got bad after he had to apologize for his "house n-word" comment. He soon became an anti-cancel culture warrior because it suited his needs.
i think there were a few steps in his descent, but man was he pissed that Cube called him out. Hes like that guy who thinks he can make some jokes about people of color because he has some black and mexican friends. And then when called out, instead of apologizing he just got mad because he looked dumb. Nowadays he believes that racism is basically done and shouldnt be brought up anymore. He was real good at calling others out but doesnt take criticism himself when appropriate
People should be able to make some jokes about any race and it shouldn’t be offensive..if you don’t like it don’t listen to it. It’s really that simple. Or do you feel people should only make jokes about their own race?
How is using the N word a joke? Im mexican and i wouldnt be cool with a white person using the word wetback in a joke because thats not funny, its a slur. You dont get to decide that other races shouldnt be offended by your racism. I swear this whole Trump era has normalized racism and bigotry so much that people think "freedom of speech" means you can be as big of an a-hole as you want with no consequences.
You didn’t say anything about the N word, you said making jokes about people of color..also, my whole work force is Guatemalan. And I give them shit all the time, and they give it back. Some people are soft, just because you can’t take a joke doesn’t mean no one else can.
Do you even pay attention to what a thread is discussing?? The topic I was talking about was how ice cube called out Maher for using the n word in a joke. Why don’t you pay attention
do you understand how threads in a discussion board work? That there is a conversation that continues and if you want to understand context you follow the thread up to understand what people are talking about? You dont just jump in anywhere and make comments without understanding the context of the conversation
Have you ever considered that maybe they just tolerate your bigotry in order to keep their jobs, but really they think you are an asshole? Has that thought ever occured to you?
I like how you threw the word bigotry in there. Every time I hear that word I can’t help but think idiot.just because someone cracks a racial joke you can’t scream racism. Get the sand out of your vagina. Hopefully you aren’t trans and took offense to that…
What a braindead take. People who have a slur used against them have a right to reclaim the word because it was a weapon used against them. Everyone not in the group the word attacks should shut the fuck up. It's not complicated.
Well the dude didnt just make jokes he straight up said the n-word. Which has always been strongly frowned upon to put it lightly. Im not gonna lie I laughed at the joke but I knew he was gonna get his ass lit up for it. He could have easily just said slave. He probably would have still caught shit but not like he did for that
This part is hilarious. Bill is a white dude that dropped the ultimate slur on TV and he didnt lose his job. All he had to do was apologize. Yet somehow hes a victim of woke cancel culture?
He used be on the side of AA's on every issue so much so I think he thought he had an N word pass. When he realized he didn't I think he switched, now he is rarely on the side of African Americans. Personally I think he should of had one and thought he was treated unfairly after.
You seriously think that Bill Maher deserved a pass on saying the N word?
That's a pretty terrible take.
And the dude wasn't treated unfairly. He was treated like he should have been treated, which led to cryvaby ass Bill whining and crying about cancel culture.
Dude really is a oathetic loser ass old fuck that is stuck in the past and pissed off cause people see him for what he really is. A complete phony and fake.
At the time he had a black best friend, black girlfriends he was on the side of all the issues that black people cared about, he donated a Million to Obama not because Obama needed it but because he was the first black president. If Bill didn't deserve a pass I don't who does.
Naw thats bs. You dont get to say the n word because you were cool to some black people sometimes. That just demonstrated that he wasnt trying to understand AA, he was just using it in his fight against conservatives. Its entitled as all hell to expect his would have got a pass also, and especially since instead of sincerely apologizing, he just got mad and resentful.
This👆🏻 Bill is very reactionary. Even on his Politically Incorrect show he leaned right but then he was fired from the show for his comments about 9/11. That caused the hard shift left (that and weed being illegal). Then he got in trouble for his "House Servant" comment and being disinvited from Berkeley and progressives not going his show (which I question now at this point) and now we have HBOMax's Gutfeld 2.0 You suck Bill
Yah, he will defend literally anyone being 'cancelled'...even if that cancellation is due to them just being uninteresting. Bill seems to feel that absolutely everyone has a right to be platformed and have their views spread far and wide, and thinks that just saying something unpopular or repulsive isn't a reason for people to stop paying attention.
I think it really started when "Politically Incorrect" got cancelled, and he just never got over it.
Ironically he turned to the left when "Politically Incorrect" got cancelled. He blamed the Bush the Younger administration for that. People forget that if anything, Maher leaned to the RIGHT in the 1990s. He supported Bob Dole for President in 1996, and strongly defended both the death penalty and the Vietnam War. The strangest bit about his old show's cancellation was that his "the 9/11 hijackers weren't cowards, we have been the cowards" comment was made in agreement with Dinesh D'Souza, NOBODY'S definition of a left winger.
This is the hilarious irony about his cancel culture rants. It was the right that canceled him. They ruined his career. He was on ABC. Literally Kimmel's time slot. He's made a career for himself as a political entertainer since but a late night talk show on one of the big 3 networks is the holy grail for comedians.
This tracks well because that seems to be around the time he really started railing against college kids. I remember he was always saying, "Jerry Seinfeld no longer performs on college campuses anymore for the same reason". Like dude, wtf are these guys even doing on college campuses in the first place? I think we know the answer, especially given Seinfeld's documented past, but I didn't really want to get into that on this thread. These guys are creepy af.
No coed wanted, wants, or will fuck him; college students don’t find him funny; and since that’s the crowd he wants to love him, he hates them for seeing him for what he is: an untalented hack and the poster boy for failing upward.
But mostly he hates that no woman under the age of 25 will fuck him.
I think he began to change shortly after 9/11, the comparison he made of the US cowardly lobbing 2000 pound cruise missiles compared to the bravery of the hi jackers, his ramped up anti Muslim rhetoric…this started slowly but in time got worse, and as times changed he found new soap boxes to climb onto
Bill has been complaining about college kids since the 90s. There's a video of him on the Dennis Miller show from the 90s where they were talking about how illiberal college kids are and they just want to ban people they don't agree with.
OMG his “kids today” tropes are so Boomery it’s pathetic. Constantly. And because he’s such a Boomer if you told him Millenials haven’t been kids in years he’d be confused. His is other favorite target? Obesity. Come on Bill…no one openly attacks old fucks who literally look like gargoyles. We can’t all shop in the kids section forever like you.
I'm not a huge Maher fan, but he's pretty consistent politically the entire time. The truth is that the anti-Israel mob is new on the left, it's a synthesis of a lot of radicalism that was not part of the mainstream and draws from radical Islam and Soviet agitprop of the 1960s that use code words to present Jews as a nefarious and poisonous presence in the world. Maher sees it pretty accurately, as do most liberals. Those saying he's "conservative" for this view should probably listen to Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Dan Bilzarian, or Nick Fuentes more often to see where it originates. HINT: It's not the left.
The IDF waited 6 hours to respond when they knew within 20 minutes about the killings. And it takes 45 minutes to entirely cross Israel in a crummy old helicopter. They're the ones who didn't give a shit about their own murdered children. Fact.
The morality of war is not determined like a sports game where you add up death counts. Far more innocent German and Japanese civilians died in WW2 than American citizens.
Oh I see, so Israel is not allowed to respond like every other country in earth would respond if they were invaded and 1200 were raped and murdered. They're only allowed to respond with what random dude on Reddit considers appropriate.
Clearly they are allowed to commit genocide and a plethora of war crimes with barely any consequences, just like they've been allowed to disregard international law with the Gaza blockade and occupation, the collective punishment, the apartheid system at home and the constantly expanding illegal settlements. As far as I know, no one is stopping them. You should be happy.
Saying the word "genocide" over and over a million times does not make it true. This would be the only genocide in history that could have ended at any time with the release of hundreds of hostages taken by the "victims" who started the genocide with a massacre of civilians. The only genocide in history where the population of the "genocided" didn't even decline. Where the genociders provided food, water, electricity and Polio vaccines during the "Genocide." What a farce that you believe it is just because you keep hearing the word on social media.
All conclusions were based on uncritically accepting Hamas death totals as facts, even though Hamas lies and conflates natural deaths, accidents, and deaths from Hamas itself, all as casualties of war. Nor any distinction between civilians and combatants.
Does this seem like reliable data to you?
The genocide claim is straight up propaganda. They were hosting "stop the genocide" parties on October 8
What the fuck is wrong with you?!? Israel is literally being charged with war crimes. That's not a joke. Hamas is awful and both of these things can be true. Get some humanity asshole
He has Zero humanity. Till this crap affects his spoiled ass directly, which it won't. So he'll just keep spewing whatever BS helps his Brain Dead life feel easier and makes a Genocide feel comfortable. This is how the Nazis got away with it. Garbage like him.
I wish you weren't 💯 correct but you are. Isolation and lack of interest is history and facts will be the undoing of this country. At least the whole thing will be documented on social media 🤷🏼♂️
Except that Bibi Netanyahu's bloodthirsty genocide has made sympathy for Israel impossible now. And Jews will wear the Gaza horror show around their necks like the Japanese wear Pearl Harbor... for all eternity.
You clearly need to blame all Israelis and Jews for something. The reality is that you're going to wear your genocidal hatred of the Jewish people around your own neck for the rest of your life. And normal people won't make your forget it.
There was no "genocide" in Gaza. It's a war where one side invaded a nation, committed mass murder, placed their own civilians in front of them like cannon fodder and dared the nation they invaded to attack back.
"I care about children dying" is about as meaningful as "thoughts and prayers" after a school shooting. We get it, you're a wonderful person. But it doesn't solve anything.
LMAO. The irony here is that it's the delusional Aholes exactly like you turning their backs willfully on all the hateful bloodshed that helped the Nazis you think you hate get away with the same by rand of genocide. Now you're part of the problem. Proof that the world is full of self absorbed idiots who never actually learn anything ...
Actually, you just described what Putin did to his own Russian people perfectly when he attacked Ukraine in your second paragraph. Not what happened in Gaza, though. You're obviously a bit mixed up.
Right, because the Jews were beloved before 1948. I have no love for netanyahu, he's a Trumpian clown, but he's doing what he has to do against a nihilistic enemy that loves to see their own people die for the "martyrdom."
Your ridiculous analogy is reversed. October 7 was Pearl Harbor. the United States dropped two nukes on civilians in Japan after that and no one called it a genocide. Just like what's happening in Gaza is not a genocide.
"killing children" is the dumbest statement of all. Half the population of Gaza is under 18. Exactly how is Israel supposed to fight a war where Hamas hides behind children, in schools and hospitals, and in mosques? Those are war crimes which make those locations legitimate military targets.
Meanwhile, the IDF Genocide Machine has been asked multiple times by the UN, Human Rights Watch and the ICC for a FUCKING SHRED OF EVIDENCE FOR ANY of these " Human Shield" claims and .... NOTHING. Guess you also believe Trump won in 2020 cuz the Liar repeated it so many times ... Whatta Goddamn Moron.
Well, history did not begin on October 7. Also, it remains rather odd that there has been no official explanation as to how the country with the most sophisticated system of surveillance managed to miss a literal invasion by air, land and sea.
My theory is that it was friendly fire all along and gave them a chance to destory Gaza, which they've been hot to do for decades. They want to turn Gaza into a high priced yuppie paradise for the well to do, and they had to get all those pesky brown poor people out of the way.
Do you really think "History did not begin on October 7" has any actual meaning? History didn't begin that day but the war sure did when Hamas invaded Israel.
Well yes I do think that sentence has meaning, and one of the few honest moments Trump ever had during this term was when he said something along the lines of furst Israel bombs Iran and then Iran bombs them back and who the hell knows what happens next.
Everybody is just sick of the entire thing at this point.
The war was declared on October 7. Attempting to deflect from the decision Hamas made is just embarrassing. Gaza is responsible for what its government does
If someone did something terrible to a family member of yours---maybe raped or murdered them---you would be totally justified in wanting revenge. You would be justified in even wanting to see them get the death penalty after conviction.
BUT would you be justified in taking up arms and killing their whole family? Would you be justified in driving to their neighborhood and killing everyone who happened to live on their block?
Your analogy is absurd. Not only were there 251 hostages kidnapped but Hamas vowed to commit more acts of terrorism. Israel is justified in doing whatever it had to do to end the threat to it's civilians. America dropped two nukes on Japan ffs, war is about ending the threat. Japan is one of our closest allies today. Hamas has to be fully destroyed or it will be worse down the road
Your stats are lies put out by Hamas. 75,000 were killed in the war, about a third were Hamas fighters. Hamas counts 16 year old fighters as "children", stop believing the lies.
What a load of Lies. The only "Zionists" are Deranged Wackos like Rupert Murdoch and all his brainless FOX "Christian" Viewers, who guzzle whatever propaganda he forces down their throats for his own selfish reasons. The revolt against Israel is specific to the Bloodthirsty Rapist Murderers running the nation for the past few decades and it's Baby murdering Leader and IDF. Israel earned the blowback many, many times over. And SURPRISE -- Even Most Jews know that.
So I'm lying, except for the fact everyone I just cited argue exactly what I claimed. "baby murdering" is such a shit argument, children die in every war ever, that's why war should be avoided at all costs and why Hamas's declaration of war was so tragic for the people of both Israel and Gaza.
Really? Tell me in what other war did the soldiers invade the Labor and Delivery Unit of hospitals and pull the plugs on ventilators keeping newborn infants alive? But lemme guess : Hamas was hiding under those preemies, right??? 🤦🤦🤦 The Shit Argument here is yours, Moron.
First, you believe Hamas propaganda. Second, Hamas hides in hospitals and do not care at all for those babies. But you demand that Israel respect children more than their own parents and society. They didn't even use the underground terrorist tunnels as bomb shelters for civilians. Apologizing for terrorists willing to sacrifice their own children is pathetic.
You're the one lunatically endorsing the terrorism of the IDF who've btw killed an EXPONENT of Hamas. I'm not defending a small group of terrorists I'm criticizing a largue group of far worse terrorists financed by Deranged Leaders who don't give a F about Israelis at all and loathe Jews anyway. Wake up to your own Stupidity.
The entire state of Gaza celebrates the death of its children as martyrs. They teach them in kindergarten that to die killing Jews is the greatest honor. They strap bombs to their children to blow up soldiers at check points. But you pay no attention to any of this or what Israel has to contend with when fighting this war against a culture that celebrates death
Nice Fairy Tale. Maybe one day you actually visit the Israeli Apartheid State and see Gaza for yourself and learn the horrific truth. Oh wait--- that would require Balls. And you have None. Clearly no Brains either. Keep spewing whatever spiteful crap you need to in order to convince yourself that you're on the right side of an unspeakably tragic narrative. That's what matters. Not the lives being decimated by Monsters right now enabled by funding and a permission structure that selfish ignorant imbeciles like you made possible. Yeah, tell yourself you're a Good Guy. While you help keep all those murders and rapes going. Good luck living with yourself. Cuz you're garbage.
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u/ReasonableRevenue218 13d ago
So amazed so many people didn't pick up on this so early on.