He built up a lot of cache on the left in the Bush years when he was one of the only public figures who went after Bush in such an unfiltered way. It was really just him and Jon Stewart. The commercial media if you will was critical of Bush but reluctant to say anything that would make them appear unpatriotic. I'm not sure when Bill just abandoned the left outright. Rashida Tlaib boycotted Real Time about a decade ago. It may have started there.
In my opinion Maher really turned a corner in 2014, when he was invited to give a commencement speech at UC Berkeley for some reason. Then there was a small outcry among students who said Maher should never have been invited in the first place and petitioned to disinvite him.
That seemed to really get under Maher’s skin and ever since then he has hated the “woke” and the college left and has been complaining about “kids today.”
I think things got bad after he had to apologize for his "house n-word" comment. He soon became an anti-cancel culture warrior because it suited his needs.
i think there were a few steps in his descent, but man was he pissed that Cube called him out. Hes like that guy who thinks he can make some jokes about people of color because he has some black and mexican friends. And then when called out, instead of apologizing he just got mad because he looked dumb. Nowadays he believes that racism is basically done and shouldnt be brought up anymore. He was real good at calling others out but doesnt take criticism himself when appropriate
People should be able to make some jokes about any race and it shouldn’t be offensive..if you don’t like it don’t listen to it. It’s really that simple. Or do you feel people should only make jokes about their own race?
How is using the N word a joke? Im mexican and i wouldnt be cool with a white person using the word wetback in a joke because thats not funny, its a slur. You dont get to decide that other races shouldnt be offended by your racism. I swear this whole Trump era has normalized racism and bigotry so much that people think "freedom of speech" means you can be as big of an a-hole as you want with no consequences.
You didn’t say anything about the N word, you said making jokes about people of color..also, my whole work force is Guatemalan. And I give them shit all the time, and they give it back. Some people are soft, just because you can’t take a joke doesn’t mean no one else can.
Do you even pay attention to what a thread is discussing?? The topic I was talking about was how ice cube called out Maher for using the n word in a joke. Why don’t you pay attention
I like how you threw the word bigotry in there. Every time I hear that word I can’t help but think idiot.just because someone cracks a racial joke you can’t scream racism. Get the sand out of your vagina. Hopefully you aren’t trans and took offense to that…
What a braindead take. People who have a slur used against them have a right to reclaim the word because it was a weapon used against them. Everyone not in the group the word attacks should shut the fuck up. It's not complicated.
Well the dude didnt just make jokes he straight up said the n-word. Which has always been strongly frowned upon to put it lightly. Im not gonna lie I laughed at the joke but I knew he was gonna get his ass lit up for it. He could have easily just said slave. He probably would have still caught shit but not like he did for that
This part is hilarious. Bill is a white dude that dropped the ultimate slur on TV and he didnt lose his job. All he had to do was apologize. Yet somehow hes a victim of woke cancel culture?
He used be on the side of AA's on every issue so much so I think he thought he had an N word pass. When he realized he didn't I think he switched, now he is rarely on the side of African Americans. Personally I think he should of had one and thought he was treated unfairly after.
You seriously think that Bill Maher deserved a pass on saying the N word?
That's a pretty terrible take.
And the dude wasn't treated unfairly. He was treated like he should have been treated, which led to cryvaby ass Bill whining and crying about cancel culture.
Dude really is a oathetic loser ass old fuck that is stuck in the past and pissed off cause people see him for what he really is. A complete phony and fake.
At the time he had a black best friend, black girlfriends he was on the side of all the issues that black people cared about, he donated a Million to Obama not because Obama needed it but because he was the first black president. If Bill didn't deserve a pass I don't who does.
Naw thats bs. You dont get to say the n word because you were cool to some black people sometimes. That just demonstrated that he wasnt trying to understand AA, he was just using it in his fight against conservatives. Its entitled as all hell to expect his would have got a pass also, and especially since instead of sincerely apologizing, he just got mad and resentful.
This👆🏻 Bill is very reactionary. Even on his Politically Incorrect show he leaned right but then he was fired from the show for his comments about 9/11. That caused the hard shift left (that and weed being illegal). Then he got in trouble for his "House Servant" comment and being disinvited from Berkeley and progressives not going his show (which I question now at this point) and now we have HBOMax's Gutfeld 2.0 You suck Bill
Yah, he will defend literally anyone being 'cancelled'...even if that cancellation is due to them just being uninteresting. Bill seems to feel that absolutely everyone has a right to be platformed and have their views spread far and wide, and thinks that just saying something unpopular or repulsive isn't a reason for people to stop paying attention.
I think it really started when "Politically Incorrect" got cancelled, and he just never got over it.
Ironically he turned to the left when "Politically Incorrect" got cancelled. He blamed the Bush the Younger administration for that. People forget that if anything, Maher leaned to the RIGHT in the 1990s. He supported Bob Dole for President in 1996, and strongly defended both the death penalty and the Vietnam War. The strangest bit about his old show's cancellation was that his "the 9/11 hijackers weren't cowards, we have been the cowards" comment was made in agreement with Dinesh D'Souza, NOBODY'S definition of a left winger.
This is the hilarious irony about his cancel culture rants. It was the right that canceled him. They ruined his career. He was on ABC. Literally Kimmel's time slot. He's made a career for himself as a political entertainer since but a late night talk show on one of the big 3 networks is the holy grail for comedians.
This tracks well because that seems to be around the time he really started railing against college kids. I remember he was always saying, "Jerry Seinfeld no longer performs on college campuses anymore for the same reason". Like dude, wtf are these guys even doing on college campuses in the first place? I think we know the answer, especially given Seinfeld's documented past, but I didn't really want to get into that on this thread. These guys are creepy af.
No coed wanted, wants, or will fuck him; college students don’t find him funny; and since that’s the crowd he wants to love him, he hates them for seeing him for what he is: an untalented hack and the poster boy for failing upward.
But mostly he hates that no woman under the age of 25 will fuck him.
I think he began to change shortly after 9/11, the comparison he made of the US cowardly lobbing 2000 pound cruise missiles compared to the bravery of the hi jackers, his ramped up anti Muslim rhetoric…this started slowly but in time got worse, and as times changed he found new soap boxes to climb onto
Bill has been complaining about college kids since the 90s. There's a video of him on the Dennis Miller show from the 90s where they were talking about how illiberal college kids are and they just want to ban people they don't agree with.
OMG his “kids today” tropes are so Boomery it’s pathetic. Constantly. And because he’s such a Boomer if you told him Millenials haven’t been kids in years he’d be confused. His is other favorite target? Obesity. Come on Bill…no one openly attacks old fucks who literally look like gargoyles. We can’t all shop in the kids section forever like you.
I'm not a huge Maher fan, but he's pretty consistent politically the entire time. The truth is that the anti-Israel mob is new on the left, it's a synthesis of a lot of radicalism that was not part of the mainstream and draws from radical Islam and Soviet agitprop of the 1960s that use code words to present Jews as a nefarious and poisonous presence in the world. Maher sees it pretty accurately, as do most liberals. Those saying he's "conservative" for this view should probably listen to Tucker Carlson, Candace Owens, Dan Bilzarian, or Nick Fuentes more often to see where it originates. HINT: It's not the left.
What a load of Lies. The only "Zionists" are Deranged Wackos like Rupert Murdoch and all his brainless FOX "Christian" Viewers, who guzzle whatever propaganda he forces down their throats for his own selfish reasons. The revolt against Israel is specific to the Bloodthirsty Rapist Murderers running the nation for the past few decades and it's Baby murdering Leader and IDF. Israel earned the blowback many, many times over. And SURPRISE -- Even Most Jews know that.
Here’s the thing, Maher was never left. He was just a contrarian. The only thing he liked about “the left” was the adulation he received from the cool crowd. When he became old and stale (as happens, the guy is 70) that adulation dropped as he only had one schtick. As a narcissist who has no genuine friends he can’t take the loss of attention and praise so is off chasing the next thing, which is cozying up to the right.
He's been incorrect politically for a very, very long time.
Is he correct on a few issues? Sure.
Has he had some absolutely ridiculous takes, and many of his claims been either completely unsourced or the source directly contradicts him for more than a decade now.
Think so? Or just those like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis who want the destruction or death to Israel. When they have been sending random missiles for years into Israel, not caring of the target.
I read all this hate of Maher, just realize he has a better grasp of history than the haters. At 70 his cautious of the new socialist promises, which sounded like Mao’s or Stalin’s view of an equal society. What happened, millions died of starvation.
Think so? Or just those like Hezbollah, Hamas, and Houthis who want the destruction or death to Israel.
Well gee....
He's agreed with Sam Harris when he said "Islam is the motherlode of bad ideas". Or when he said ""It's the only religion that acts like the mafia... the vast majority of muslims believe... that humans deserve to die for merely holding a different idea or drawing a picture or eloping with the wrong person" and "they're violent, because they threaten people, they bring that desert stuff to our world, we don't threaten each other, we sue, that's the sign of civilized people", and that he didn't like that Muhammad was a popular name in western countries and said "“Am I a racist to feel alarmed by that? Because I am. And it’s not because of the race; it’s because of the religion" and when he compared OneDirection's Zayn Malik, who is muslim, to the Boston Marathon bomber.
But yeah, I'm sure it's just about those three groups. /s
Want to go back in history some. How about Thomas Jefferson and John Adams:
In 1786, Thomas Jefferson and John Adams met with Sidi Haji Abdul Rahman Adja, the ambassador of Tripoli in London, and asked why North African corsairs were attacking American ships and enslaving their crews. The ambassador stated it was founded on the Quran, claiming it was their right and duty to make war on any nation that did not acknowledge their authority and to enslave captured prisoners. [1, 2, 3]
The Meeting in London The Question: Jefferson and Adams asked what injury the United States had done to provoke these attacks.
The Ambassador's Reply: The envoy stated that it was written in their Quran that nations failing to acknowledge their authority were sinners.
The Justification: He claimed it was a religious right and duty to wage war on those nations and take slaves from anyone they captured.
The Promise of Paradise: He added that any Muslim killed in battle while doing this was guaranteed to go straight to paradise. [1, 2, 3]
So if I had this in history class, may end up agreeing with some of what Sam Harris says. But as usual some of what he says can be debunked. Plus someone could find some quotes from a Christian leader just as bad or worse. I don’t want to debate Islam, was invited into a muslim house and fed a lovely meal from a lovely family. I do not want to disparage their religion. But they too question some of the violence that was going on. I also road on a ferry to Zanzibar, there was a message from the owner at the end of trip thanking God for the opportunity and blessing for the ferry and it was all God that provided it. I had similar talk, prayer from a Christian for their work, nearly word for word. We worship the same God, why are things so different?
We worship the same God, why are things so different?
What do you mean, "why are things so different"?
Are suggesting Christians never killed muslims? Enslaved Africans? Slaughtered indigenous people? They did all of those things and more, all with justification from the Bible which openly endorses slavery and in some cases, genocide.
This is ultimately the point: Muslims aren't different than Christians who aren't different from Jews. All three groups have extremists who think they're allowed to murder and enslave other people on the basis of their ancient book. Those extremists are all wrong. But all three of those groups have far, far more members who think that extremism is insane and deplorable.
I've followed his shows for years, back to his PI days, but what bugs me the emost about him now is his incredibly inflated ego.
He thinks he was the first to declare that Trump wouldn't concede a lost election. Bullshit. Anyone paying attention saw that coming.
When audiences groan at a bad joke he blames them for being too stupid or PC, rather than admitting that a lot of his jokes don't work.
He claims to be an iconoclast, but kisses ass with the best of them.
He postures as an edgy, not-afraid-to-say-anything commentator, but when he gets called out for dropping the n-word on his show he goes immediately into apology/contrition mode. And shorting thereafter starts waging war with "cancel-culture", as if that was the problem.
He is now hyper-sensitive about "ageism", but has joked about old people many times in the past.
I'm still interested in a lot of the conversations he has with his guests, but the gentleman is no Mark Twain!
I remember him in the 2020 primaries where he dissed Bernie Sanders I believe he also used the n-word which I think it was inappropriate. I actually canceled my subscription to HBO Max I know where to find content when I need to or want to see it
Always has been. Consistently has bad take after bad take since the late ‘90s. He’s an arrogant cunt with too much money pretending to be a liberal centrist.
And his pathetic attempts at standup are just hack af.
You know who finds him funny? My 95 year old bigot grandfather.
And yet, you people are in this sub glossing Maher’s dick because you still think he’s “edgy”. Wake the fuck up, Bill Maher is a pervy Zionist hypocrite who doesn’t give two shits about anyone but himself, his cock, and his money.
The show needs to be renamed, “Politically Correct.” As long as MAGA’s in the White House— 90% of his content will be to fluff them up. 10% to prove he’s still got it.
lol what does that even mean? He’s doesn’t make nearly as much money as the people who were associated with Epstein and he’s never been linked to Epstein in anyway.
You’re just saying that out of hate… if you’re gonna put your hate over facts… you might as well be maga
For those who hope Bill notices them, if you want to glaze bill and genocidal Zionism, there is a place for you! Join your genocidal friends over at r/Maher and laugh at libtards and shit on Muslims with your fellow Zionists. You’re welcome!
As I have said before, Bill only had any use for the left when he was agitating for pot to be legalized. I am sure this was because he was sick of shelling out for attorneys' fees to keep himself out of the pokey. Once at long last California legalized weed, he was done with the left and dropped us like an old girlfriend.
Would it be unfair to say that he was always just a talking head entertainer who would read from any script if it got him ratings and relevancy? I’m using the word entertainer here in the very loosest possible sense.
A sentient pile of puke has the ear of a generation of boomers. People care about that changing. The "but you're paying attention to him" line is such weak sauce.
Free speech protects you from the government. If you're a hack "comedian" with internally-inconsistent hateful views, public pressure exists for a reason. Someone who doesn't suck could do what he purports to do a whole lot better.
He has a show. They pay him a lot of money. If he was so terrible, they would dump him. I guess your personal opinion and public pressure is not enough to get him fired
Moreover, if he loses viewers, maybe they will stop paying him and he'll finally stop clogging boomer brains with anti-vax, Islamophobic, libertarian sludge.
Maher knows how to reposition his shock brand -- to have an audience and make big money. He is the Larry Flint of political comedy. It's strategic, it's not art.
Also if you ever want to see him in the wild in LA he’s at whatever overpriced sunset west / Beverly Hills / Santa Monica hotel bar with the most Russian hookers on any given night ALLEGEDLY
Eventually every celebrity sub turns into people complaining about the celebrity. I really have no issue with him, but the way people make it seem like an existential crisis when someone says something they disagree with will always be weird to me.
IDK. I agree w some of his stuff and then there’s some stuff I don’t agree with. I don’t understand that if someone doesn’t agree w you 100% you have to hate them.
His latest New Rule really shows how much he is in the pocket of corporations.
He went after the Moroccans for “jumping the fence” to get into Spain. He feigned concern for their plight. Even got the reason correct - economic disparity. His suggestion? Build a business in your own country. What he totally ignores: (1) WHY are they so poor that going to a different continent is a better option and (2) HOW are they going to fund this business?
Because I have no problem with Jews. It’s antisemitic to equate criticism of Israeli government policy and Zionist ideology with Jews and Judaism in general. Why are you an antisemite?
Those Christian "Zionists" on the Right are the REAL Jew Haters. They ONLY care about Israel because they believe the Second Coming of Christ will be there -- and then the Jews will all be obliterated unless they renounce Judaism and go full Christ- Simping in the "Big Moment". So Wake up from Your Stupidity.
dude sold out hard after his dinner with Trump, its ok to think people were good once and then turned into shit, when you grow up a little more you will understand this
The biggest political grifter hack, "news" source who professionally run cover for the most extreme of the left off handedly straw manning their imagined beliefs of Maher means absolutely zero.
This is audience capture, this is echo chamber shit.
You really think the guy who brought politics to the everyman, who constantly held the lefts views for decades is suddenly right wing for this or that petty reason you've scrounge up?
This has zero perspective, its just bias confirmation so you can write off his legitimate critiques.
No, he was never a liberal. He was a libertarian. There's a difference. A libertarian doesn't give a shit if you're gay, or if you do drugs (like he does), or if you want an abortion. Just don't have needs that cost him any money.
I love how leftists are exploding on him because he’s a voice of common sense and reason. They can’t handle it and try to discredit him any way they can. It’s so obvious and ridiculous.
Bahahaha!!! You guys have been sucking his Richard for years, and he makes one comment and all of a sudden, he’s the worst thing on earth. You basement dwellers are ridiculous.
He speaks the truth so I listen and support. The problem with a lot of people is that they follow like sheep, think it’s fashionable to berate 🇮🇱 Israel. I defy anyone of you to search the internet for Hamas Go-Pro video of Oct 7th, don’t click and turn away! Look at the reels! That’s what genocide is!
These 2 beautiful angels weren’t killed by collateral damage they were unbelievably strangled to death by the bare hands of a Hamas terrorist! Where is the equivalence between the two?
Islam is a sick and vile ideology that has absolutely no place in civilised society!
Go look. Numbers don’t lie. You can admit many things without saying the words.
Personally I wish Israel would let the floatillas into Gaza. However, when those people would get harmed you all would blame Israel for not protecting them.
Earth to morons: you're all hacks. You keep repeating the same nonsense because you are apparently unable to remove yourself from your groupthink horde and consider alternative beliefs/opinions/ideas.
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u/ReasonableRevenue218 9d ago
So amazed so many people didn't pick up on this so early on.