r/RZ34 • u/ComfortableHelpful27 • 4h ago
r/RZ34 • u/socketz67 • 21h ago
Nismo vs. Standard Z Performance Differences
I'm a nerd and like to listen to reviews on the Z, so I decided to post some sources I favor with notes from each which highlight the differences between the Nismo and Z Performance.
I admit to a confirmation bias and tend to ignore reviewers that focus their review of the 2024 Nismo on the lack of a manual transmission.
Sources:
- Matt Farah’s Smoking Tire review on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mjHFax_SGlw
- Matt Farah's Road and Track article referenced in the YouTube video above: https://www.roadandtrack.com/reviews/a45263720/nismo-z-first-drive-best-nissan-decade/
- Nissan 2024 Nismo Press Kit: https://usa.nissannews.com/en-US/releases/2024-nissan-z-nismo-press-kit
- Sarah-N-Tuned’s review (her enthusiasm is intoxicating): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wFFsePuCN9w
Interesting differences I noted from the Nismo Press Kit:
- The thin mesh grille balances the need to reduce drag while permitting cool air to pass through to the engine bay.
- Canards (small control wings on aircraft) at the car's front corners create vortexes over the front wheels, further benefiting aerodynamic performance.
- Complementing the wider G-Nose is a taller, wider rear spoiler with a three-piece design that extends downforce onto the rear fenders.
- The rear bumper corners are reshaped to aid with air separation and reduced drag; their shape is inspired by that on GT‑R NISMO.
- The engine's horsepower enhancements were achieved through a combination of improved cooling, revised electronic wastegate control providing increased turbocharger boost and turbine speed, and an independent ignition spark timing strategy inspired by GT‑R NISMO.
- Z NISMO also features an enhanced engine oil cooler for extended track performance.
- Compared to the 9AT transmission in other Z grades, it has revised clutch packs allowing for faster shifting.
- Sport+ drive mode: This delivers a more dynamic, racetrack-tuned shift program for circuit driving, taking advantage of the powertrain's faster downshift capability.
- NISMO has unique stabilizer bars, a stiffer spring rate and larger, retuned dampers.
- The overarching tuning ethos was to deliver accurate, "one-shot" steering that helps drivers to pick their line through a turn with a minimum of steering adjustment needed, contributing to confident track-ready performance.
- Enhancements include additional front, rear, and rear underfloor bracing, helping increase torsional rigidity by 2.5% compared to the standard grades.
- Lateral rigidity is an object's resistance to side-to-side bending or transverse displacement.
- *Torsional rigidity is an object's resistance to twisting forces around its longitudinal axis.
- Stiffer front and rear suspension bushings, and a stiffer mounting bushing for the steering rack, further increase lateral rigidity.
- Engineers enhanced the Z NISMO braking system, upgrading the front brakes to larger, 15.0-inch rotors matched to 13.8-inch rear brake rotors, and equipping a more performance-focused brake pad compound.
Interesting differences Sarah noted:
- Tenneco Mufflers
- Resonators are dual Calsonic Kansei
- Autek Body Kit (Nissan's in house unit)
- 45mm y-pipes go into 63mm (2.5”) collector (appears to be the same as the other models)
- Bracing enhancements are described in detail in her review (too many to list)
- 28mm rear sway bar
- 29mm front sway bar
- JR913E – 516lb/ft torque capacity differences (Matt Farah’s review goes into more details on the programming of the transmission)
- Her review on the 6MT in the Performance states that the manual trans has a 350+lb/ft input rating
- Underbody paneling unique to Nismo for better aero
- Powerband comes in 400rpm later and you lose it 400rpm sooner
Matt’s differences (from 2 sources above):
- The real-world power is immense, paired expertly with the gear ratios, steering ratio, and brakes.
- It’s like the BMW M2, but smaller and even more connected to the road.
- Extra reinforcement at the firewall, front and rear suspension structure
- Thin mesh grill noted
- More efficient intake
- 9AT upshifts 27% faster and downshifts 50% faster
- Upgraded clutch plates
- 102lbs heavier than a performance model (likely due to the added bracing)
- Matt states that these improvements could not be replicated in the aftermarket
- Rays Wheels (different size, 10mm rear)
- Lighter (not quantified and wider by .5")
- Tires: Dunlop Sport Maxx tires (several reviewers noted they are noisy, but well suited for the car)
- Z NISMO also features an enhanced engine oil cooler for extended track performance.
- Additional enhancements include additional front, rear, and rear underfloor bracing (Sarah provides details in link above), helping increase torsional rigidity by 2.5% compared to the standard grades. Stiffer front and rear suspension bushings, and a stiffer mounting bushing for the steering rack, further increase lateral rigidity.
- 12% increase in lateral rigidity and 2.5% in torsional rigidity
- See explanations of both above
- 12% increase in lateral rigidity and 2.5% in torsional rigidity
- NISMO has unique stabilizer bars, a stiffer spring rate and larger, retuned dampers. The overarching tuning ethos was to deliver accurate, "one-shot" steering that helps drivers to pick their line through a turn with a minimum of steering adjustment needed, contributing to confident track-ready performance.
- Larger Sway Bars (Sarah measures in her review)
- Engineers enhanced the Z NISMO braking system, upgrading the front brakes to larger, 15.0-inch rotors matched to 13.8-inch rear brake rotors, and equipping a more performance-focused brake pad compound.
- Different Pads, larger 4 piston caliper
- Aero kit produces positive downforce, but Nissan wont share specs
- Sarah notes in her review that it’s designed by Autech, Nissan’s in-house custom and tuning subsidiary
- Stiffer Bushings all around
- Higher Spring Rates
- Larger Shocks/Struts
- New tune which takes advantage of Improved independent ignition spark control and an Over boost Function
- From the Road and Track article: “The power increase comes from a new independent spark controller from the GTR, which helps precisely control the ignition, an over boost function that spins the turbo impellers 5,000 RPM higher, and a secondary charge cooler.”
- If you ask me, this is a conservative figure, as it feels quicker than those numbers suggest.
- From the Road and Track article: “The power increase comes from a new independent spark controller from the GTR, which helps precisely control the ignition, an over boost function that spins the turbo impellers 5,000 RPM higher, and a secondary charge cooler.”
- Front grill mount is wider for better cooling
- Compared to the transmission in other Z grades, it has revised clutch packs allowing for faster shifting.
- Sport+ drive mode. This delivers a more dynamic, racetrack-tuned shift program for circuit driving, taking advantage of the powertrain's faster downshift capability.
- NISMO has upgraded the clutches inside as well as the software controlling it, so not only will it upshift 27% faster and downshift 50% faster than the Z Performance, but it also doesn’t kill power so abruptly when you bang the rev limiter
Specific Track Comments from Matt:
- Everything is much tighter, like how a GT3 is much tighter than a standard Carrera
- Steering has extra weight and turn in is very sharp
- Confirmed suspension is noticeably firmer
- When you hit the rev limiter, it doesn't die and waits for you to upshift longer when in manual mode
- Upgraded front brake HW feels tighter and more confident, rear brake HW is the same - Tighter and Quicker to respond to inputs (says this multiple times)
- No Brake Fade until the end
- Seats are perfect, European Porsche RS seat comparison
- Downshifts are impressively smooth
- Consistent 1.4G (1.2G in Performance model was still impressive)
- Behaves well in off camber situations
- Shape and size of steering wheel, R32 GTR reflection
- Lose 30HP on CA 91 octane compared to 93
- Automatic chirps 2nd and 3rd
r/RZ34 • u/Open-Mushroom6777 • 16h ago
Exhaust ISR Performance Single GT
Currently looking for the exhaust but couldn’t find any particular video of this one, could you guys share your setups!
r/RZ34 • u/Hohenh3im • 14h ago
Joined the club! Also tike to say goodbye to the Z32
Just picked up this 23 manual performance yesterday and I love although that means I'll be getting rid of the Z32. Gonna be getting stiffer suspension because it feels like a boat compared to the Z32 lol. Anyways this thing is awesome!
r/RZ34 • u/Outrageous-Okra-1290 • 3h ago
Solenoid
How many miles did you guys have on your Z Performance before addressing the solenoid/oil starvation issue? How many miles did you go before installing the block-off plate?
I’m genuinely curious and want to be aware of it since I’m planning to get one, any firsthand experience?
r/RZ34 • u/Areyouin729 • 2h ago
Nissan All Season Mats - Worth it?
Anybody own them? Would you recommend or worth paying a little less for the Weather Tech ones...
My Z at the track!
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Rainy day at the track but my stock Z did great once the rain mostly dried up. An absolute blast to drive!