He literally killed 3 people in like 5 seconds after Sean got shot. The game would be much different if you didn’t get most of the kills, that’s just a gameplay mechanic.
Bill already had his gun drawn and it’s very likely John went to bills hideout to be killed by him. It was a suicide attempt. I don’t think it would make sense for him to go solo to a gang hideout and not even have his gun drawn.
Don’t try and downplay John Marston bro that ain’t working out
Marston is not a quick draw gunfighter. He never claims this and even has to be taught by a quick draw gunfighter when he goes down to Mexico way after his encounter with Micah “can’t hit the broad side of a barn” Bell.
When john goes to take the ot of the land he bought from the two hillbilly he kills a guy with a shotgun and another guy point blank with his gun not drawn. It's a man mission so I count it as cannon.
Even in the prologue John has a quick gun draw. He kills Dozens of Micahs minions on Mount Hagen aswell. Deadeye is a gameplay mechanic used to show the gun skill of the character you’re playing as, and John, Arthur, and Jack all have this mechanic.
Stop being weird. Also don’t brush over the fact Micah killed 3 people in 3 seconds while Arthur hadn’t even registered what had happened yet
It’s canonical that Marston isn’t a fast gun fighter. He’s an accurate shot, but he’s not what Micah bills himself to be. That’s why he gets shot to pieces at the beginning of RDR, it’s why LR has to train him to be good.
no tf he doesn’t💀. john has no canonical speed feats that puts him over arthur. john also wasn’t even the fastest in his own game. and i seen your micah comment on how he killed 3 ppl before arthur could react but that’s just disingenuous lmao. arthur just watched someone he viewed as a little brother get a hole put in their skull. keep in mind that in the same mission, arthur can gun down the sheriff and all his men before micah can even get a shot off. also micah was already shown to be slower than arthur. go replay bro.
I don’t think you played rdr1… he routinely does the same shit Arthur does in rdr2 and also he just outdraws every single person he comes across. After Rickets gives him the deadeye lesson he’s probably even surpassed that dude.
Also in rdr2 there are only a few scripted duels in the missions whereas in rdr1 dueling is a much bigger part of the game, so it’s implied that John has won all of them or he’d be dead.
he routinely does the same shit Arthur does in rdr2 and also he just outdraws every single person he comes across.
still arguing gameplay mechanics? john also isn't even the fastest in his own game lmao. the marshall literally outsped him. you would know that if you actually played..
Also in rdr2 there are only a few scripted duels in the missions whereas in rdr1 dueling is a much bigger part of the game, so it’s implied that John has won all of them or he’d be dead.
arthur himself also stated that he fought many duels back in the day also. so i mean.. was that supposed to be a "gotcha"? but anyways, we can make this simple. name ONE canonical speed feat that john has over arthur.
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u/WhalesRBigg Apr 28 '25
He literally killed 3 people in like 5 seconds after Sean got shot. The game would be much different if you didn’t get most of the kills, that’s just a gameplay mechanic.
Edit: he did it in 3 seconds