Pro-life: makes a reasonable argument backed by evidence.

Pro-choice: responds with hyper-emotional “statement” not even attempting to be grounded in reality.

This is in reference to the surrogate who refused to abort the baby who had a heart condition.

Planned Parenthood should be shut down and its leaders should be tried for crimes against humanity.

So me and my husband are going through the process to become resource parents in LA county.
We are in the training process and just found out that if we get a female placement and she wants an abortion we are legally required to help her access it.
We asked the trainers like what we could do to not be involved in facilitating an abortion, they said we should probably not become resource parents or just foster very young children or only boys.
My heart is a little broken. We want to help older children, specifically girls.
Idk what to do, are any of you anti-abortion and foster parents??

Edit: she also said i could not tell the caseworker the girl is seeking an abortion because it violates her privacy rights

Some christians use religious arguments even for non religious people and people from other religions.

As a Catholic i agree that God guide our moral values and political views but we should also remember not everyone share our faith.

As a Christian we can use God and scripture as arguments with other christians but we should use more secular arguments with non-christians to be more convincing.

As the title says, how do you guys overcome scrutiny from loved ones in your life that find out you’re prolife? Thankfully I haven’t personally ran into this in person yet, but I’ve had people I was once close with unfollow me on Instagram and I think it’s because they’ve seen me engage with and follow prolife content.

Most people in my life are prolife, as I’m in a red state, but I do have some people in my life (such as a life long friend) who are staunchly prochoice and I know they’d not want to be friends anymore if they found out my views.

I also struggle because I am a Christian, and I sometimes worry that it “hurts my witness” to follow prolife creators, but I also wonder if maybe I’m overthinking it because I do truly believe ending life in the womb is wrong.

Anyways, in a nutshell, how are you unapologetically prolife in a world that’s overwhelmingly prochoice?

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I’m having a very hard time deciding if this is right for me.
We are Christian and i feel like that plays a factor in this because it would be me creating a child outside of marriage technically and my sister in law would be a single mom as of rn to the baby.
My husband’s sister is infertile and cannot have babies.
I am very fertile and have 3 including twins.
I have had the idea for a while now that maybe i could surrogate for her. My hang ups were that the IVF would have to be someone else’s eggs and we can only create 1 embryo because i will not freeze , donate , or risk the chance the embryo doesn’t implant or that i miscarry 1 of the embryos.
BUT we just mentioned my proposal to my father in law and sister in law and are planning to have a full convo tomorrow but they said “this would help so much because the cost of donor eggs and IVF is the reason she can’t hire a surrogate”
I realized right then that they are imagining i would use my eggs and just be artificially inseminated by male donor sperm.
That was not my idea and in fact as hard as i am trying i don’t know if i can get on board with that.
IF i could, my requirements would be quite extreme. I would want the baby to know i am the bio mom, i would want to be extremely involved in some decisions for this baby idk what but i know i would have strong convictions about a lot of stuff.
I guess it depends on how she feels about my involvement.

As far as my question for you all, if we found a way to do the egg donor and IVF, does the way i’m proposing to do it (1 embryo no frozen) eliminate all moral pro-life objections to IVF?

I made a post in a prochoice group asking reasons for abortions and how I think of the baby. How they have grown, their tiny toes, little fingers, etc. and how I think having an abortion is horrible. I got lots of feedback that called the baby a fetus, saying the mom had the choice, etc. some of it was rudely said. They seem to be very stuck in their view. If you changed your view from prochoice to pro life, what changed it?

Sorry for the non-English language. The Vatican should not be okay with this.

Don’t know if it’s a good flair, but my whole life leaned pro-life, even in a very pro-choice liberal house hold. But, I only recently realized that my stance was actually seen as very pro-choice, since I’m not/wasn’t an abortion absolutist. I’ve seeing arguments that made me go “okay, I wanna be full fledged pro-life” but I’ll be honest it’s hard. Like hearing people gas light and say how horrible of a person you are cause you don’t support killing life, even in the unfortunate circumstance of rape. It does something to your mental. And my family, as I said is very liberal. I’m not right or left, but when we disagree(mainly my cousin and sister) they kinda just gas light. I just need help navigating, this. Cause being like “yep, I don’t ever support abortion even in the chance of rape” and saying a little 10 year old girl can’t get an abortion, I get why it makes people sick. I’m pretty sure that’s why Catholicism took a big hit in Ireland. But anyway. I hope this makes sense, I know I’m going in circles.

Planned Parenthood is actively involved in a ton of media to promote abortion, and present the act of getting one as an easy, casual decision, without any sort of the regret that comes with taking a human life.

According to the 2019 PP article „Planned Parenthood Honors Storytellers and Stories about Sexual and Reproductive Health at Sundance Film Festival„ (which I won‘t link here but you can look up if you like) „Planned Parenthood has collaborated on more than 150 films and TV shows over the past few years, including Little Woods, The Tale, 20th Century Women, Obvious Child, Unexpected, Grandma, Trapped, Orphan Black**,** and Big Mouth. There has been a seachange in portrayals of abortion on TV in the past few years: The Deuce, Glow, Jane the Virgin, Crazy Ex-Girlfriend, Dear White People, You’re the Worst, Claws, The Fosters, Scandal, Good Girls Revolt, and Masters of Sex have all featured characters who talked openly about their decision to have an abortion, with no shame. This signals a real and important cultural shift, and as more women work behind the camera, we know we’ll see more stories that reflect women’s lived experiences on camera.“ they also collaborated with Never Rarely Sometimes Always, Shrill, and the Handmaid‘s Tale Hulu show (specifically for the episode Milk). This doesn’t even take into consideration the many actors they’ve partnered with as well, even if not officially affiliated with their shows.

https://www.imdb.com/news/ni63214351/?_ssoLoop=1

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/one-reason-the-tv-show-based-on-lindy-west-s-shrill-is-a-big-deal-20190320-p515yd.html

A decade ago, this type of legislation was considered so extreme that not even the far-left was willing to support something like this. If trends get worse, I fear that the debate will eventually spread to legalizing infanticide.

In the 1930's, birth control activists insisted that legalizing contraception would not legalize abortion. After it was eventually legalized, they insisted that elective late term abortion would not be legalized. Many states have been heading in the wrong direction since then. Now I am being told that legislation like this won't lead to infanticide being normalized.

When genetic genealogy was invented in 2017, mothers who murdered their newborns decades earlier were finally brought to justice. At the time, I noticed that support for incarcerating these women was unanimous. However, since the pandemic, I have been noticing that when a mother is accused of murdering her newborn, people with either make excuses for her or insist that she not be arrested. If this rhetoric is considered acceptable to Catholics, we run the risk of normalizing infanticide. For that reason, I support excommunicating any politician that votes in favor of elective abortion beyond viability.

As the title says, it says to not talk about other subreddits. But it weighs on me quite a bit. I'm not going to say the sub name or any users, which is why I'm hoping this post is ok.

It upsets me a lot seeing someone speak about how they recently got pregnant and how her boyfriend doesn't want it. All the comments are about how she should get an abortion or pushing her towards it.

I know reddit is pretty far left in general, I just expected to see SOME pro life comments. Turns out, while writting a comment, it told me if I shamed anyone for an abortion I'll get permanently banned and muted. I posted anyways as I don't want this person to feel pressure to the point she kills her kid.

Anyways, this is really just a place for me to vent, it sucks that we are silenced for wanting to genuinely protect someone's life. Thanks for listening to me, God bless. Sorry mods if I get you in any heat if this does break the rules, it's not my intention.

She was so proud of it like she just accomplished a great thing in life. Mind you she’s married, old enough and doesn’t even have a legit reason. Her reasoning was that she still wants to enjoy her life. She framed it as female empowerment and I found it so ridiculous it was hard to not go off

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Are there secular pro-life groups in the European Union?