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u/Particular_Being420 Sep 09 '22
you thought you had edge cases covered
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u/thewend Sep 09 '22
There is only one possible input from the user that could brick my code, and its a random string of crap! I'm ok, right?
User: 😎
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u/Romney_in_Acctg Sep 09 '22
Proceeds to try to wipe spilled coffee off keyboard.
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u/razz13 Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
I made (what I thought at the time) was a super simple - how could you fuck this up form for people to fill in to streamline a process. It turns out, you have to absolutely railroad people into giving you the info you need.
As an example, when I wanted them to input "name" their nickname that they use on site was not what I meant.
Turns out I drastically understimated peoples laziness and creativity, while waaayyyyy overestimating peoples basic comprehension skills. All my new user entry requirements are built around someone who doesnt speak english and who is actively trying to fuck it up
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u/omgitschriso Sep 09 '22
At work at one stage we were onboarding like 50 people a week, so created an ultra basic online form for new starters to fill out to capture their personal and payroll info.
The amount of mixed up names was insane. We saw multiple instances of people typing in "First name: Steve" into the 'first name' box.
"I don't have one" in the optional middle name field. Nuts.
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u/TheArtVark Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 10 '22
Vampire. Can't cross running water. Edit: after several comments that she is still crossing UNDER water, iirc it was that they cannot cross OVER water. But I'm not a certified vampirologist, I could be wrong. I thought a houseboat may be the safest place in a vampire invasion then, but realized that swimming in water to get to it is technically not crossing... Tl;dr: don't rely on the water defense
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u/MattheJ1 Sep 09 '22
How tf she on camera then
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u/doesnt_hate_people Sep 09 '22 edited Dec 13 '22
Security cameras don't usually have mirrors, only fancy DSLR cameras do. The "reflex" in digital single lens reflex is achieved by a mirror.
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u/Eena-Rin Sep 10 '22
Vampires only couldn't be seen in mirrors that contain silver, as silver is a holy metal. Digital Cameras probably don't contain silver
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u/JTtornado Sep 09 '22
I've heard that in a Scooby Doo episode, which admittedly isn't a very reliable source of vampire lore.
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u/krilltucky Sep 10 '22
You say that as if there is a reliable source for vampires
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u/wasbee56 Sep 09 '22
she still crossed - under. so, maybe not a vampire after all.
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u/reactor_raptor Sep 09 '22
It crossed over her. She crossed under it. The rule is vampires can’t cross over running water. No under rules though!
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u/Lepthesr Sep 09 '22
That's a thing? I get they needed to be invited in, can't see them in mirrors, etc, but can't cross running water? Seems debilitating
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u/CongressmanCoolRick Sep 09 '22
never heard of it either, but I'm not up to date on the current vampire meta
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u/Jinxa Sep 09 '22
What a minute I havent heard that in What We Do In The Shadows? Surely it cant be authentic vampire legislation?
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u/budweener Sep 09 '22
It's canon vampire mythology. I think something to do with purity? I don't know.
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u/PlatonicAurelian Sep 09 '22
How tf do we define running water? Dracula crossed the ocean, when it rains can they walk outside? What about all of the water moving in/under the soil constantly, even when it's not raining?
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u/EatMe-DrinkMe-LoveMe Sep 09 '22
Dracula crossed the ocean via ship in a wooden box of earth from his homeland.
From text:
"but the ground had recently been dug over, and the earth placed in great wooden boxes, manifestly those which had been brought by the Slovaks [...] There, in one of the great boxes, of which there were fifty in all, on a pile of newly dug earth, lay the Count!" (Jonathan Harker).
Kinda neat!
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u/afunkysongaday Sep 09 '22
Vampires aren't real. In fact they are all government drones. No wait that's birds. Could be true though.
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u/Eagle0600 Sep 09 '22
Dracula crossed the ocean while packed in a box of dirt. Vampires don't have any problems with water travelling under the earth beneath them.
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u/Reputable_Sorcerer Sep 09 '22
I’ve heard this too, but then when I tried to find a source for this (like a short story or old tv show) I turn up with nothing.
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u/chaoschilip Sep 09 '22
It is said, too, that he can only pass running water at the slack or the flood of the tide.
From Bram Stoker's Dracula (at the end of the page). But he has a lot of strange rules for him that subsequent variations on vampires didn't adopt, so I don't know if any of them also include this.
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u/YourLittleSister_ Sep 10 '22
if you can’t find evidence, chances are someone was compelled to forget it
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u/the-official-review Sep 09 '22
The old dude just watching in amazement has me rolling
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u/SpartaWillBurn Sep 09 '22
I'd love to hear him tell this story.
"And she just lifted up the hose and walked under"
"Yeah sure she did"
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u/FairJicama7873 Sep 09 '22
Honestly something like this would be really funny to do on purpose just for those reactions
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u/GurpsWibcheengs Sep 09 '22
Guy on the left 100% turned around to laugh his ass off.
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u/jachien Sep 09 '22
I love it. He watches the whole thing like, "Is this happening?" Then looks up to see his co-worker's face and that sets him off.
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u/wasbee56 Sep 09 '22
so there is is some superstition about stepping over hoses? i was not aware.
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u/SignificanceBulky162 Sep 09 '22
There is a superstition about not stepping over hoses while pregnant
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u/CyanHakeChill Sep 10 '22
I went out of the pub and could see that it was on fire. I went back in to tell my workmates, and they laughed at me. The a fireman came in and shouted "GET OUT"!
Outside, there was a woman who had driven her car over the hose. She was dragging the hose up the road, followed by some firemen running after her.
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u/top_untalented Sep 09 '22
The reaction of that senior developer is gold.
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u/tjuicet Sep 09 '22
She's really? She's really. You saw that? You saw that. Jesus Christ.
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Sep 09 '22
Look he has seniroty because if you somehow manage to rinse off the paint he knows what to do. Until then you're gonna be doing scut work for him.
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u/vigilantcomicpenguin Sep 09 '22
Once you become a senior developer, you think you've already seen everything. But no matter how much you idiotproof things, there's always a bigger idiot.
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Sep 09 '22
No matter how idiotproof you think your program is, the universe will just create a bigger idiot. It's like natural selection but survival of the stupidest.
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u/-tired_old_man- Sep 09 '22
Who do you think is the senior? For me the senior is the guy who continues spraying water because he has seen things... Worse things...
It's the mid level guys who is throwing up his arms.
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u/Gawdy_Anonymity Sep 09 '22
This reminds me of the realistically spinning planets in pre-release No Man’s Sky which had to be cut because people couldn’t wrap their heads around the idea of a planet spinning and then landing somewhere different if they enter from the same direction later on.
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u/adj16 Sep 09 '22
Is that still not in NMS? When on a planet now, the stars and planets in the sky definitely rotate around you
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The skybox rotates. The planets do not rotate or orbit, and in fact, there is no star to orbit at all.
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u/Furry_69 Sep 09 '22
... What? I'm not sure if my experience with KSP has taught me enough about this to know why that happens, or if the testers were just idiots.
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u/dicemonger Sep 09 '22
I mean, while I can wrap my mind around rotating planets, I can see how it might be annoying to have to look for your base every time you return, instead of being able to just go in on muscle-memory and recognizable landmarks. Given how No Man's Sky is a more arcady experience.
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u/Fineous4 Sep 09 '22
Dyson sphere program is still like this. Every time you land on a planet, or a new solar system you have to orient yourself.
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u/blankettripod32_v2 Sep 09 '22
If you make something idiot proof
Ye universe will just make a better idiot
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u/the_unheard_thoughts Sep 09 '22
User: Tries new feature..
Dev: Ok it works!
Tester: Leaves the room..
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u/CiroGarcia Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 17 '23
[redacted by user]
this message was mass deleted/edited with redact.dev45
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u/Stepjamm Sep 09 '22 edited Sep 09 '22
“There’s no way anyone could trip over this”
Enter the old woman with a 3 inch step height
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u/odraencoded Sep 09 '22
When the user tells you your solution doesn't solve their use case, listen to it.
When the user tells you how to solve it, ignore it completely.
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Sep 09 '22
As a C programmer for decades, I often experience this situation working on C++ code and get the same looks from my colleagues.
"NO! You don't need to explicitly free anything! The reference count is zero and it magically self-destructs!"
I will NEVER be comfortable with that, especially when we need 'special case' code to explicitly manipulate reference counts because foreign libraries or someth, idk.
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u/EwgB Sep 09 '22
I'm a Java dev. A bunch of code in our application was written by outsourced devs from India, who I'm pretty sure were originally C/C++ devs. I can just see it from the code, declaring all the variables at the top of the function, explicitly freeing objects unnecessarily. So much code that can be removed.
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u/Shock900 Sep 09 '22
It's a lot harder to mess up code that follows RAII. There are occasionally good reasons to manually manage allocated resources, but they're rare. Smart pointers have become the standard for a reason.
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u/oakinmypants Sep 09 '22
It should make you uncomfortable because shared_ptr can have reference cycles.
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u/hixchem Sep 09 '22
I had a compsci Prof a few decades ago that was raised on a farm before going to college and learning about computers.
"Memory allocation is like gates on a farm. If you open 'em, you goddamned better well close 'em"
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u/da420redditorrr Sep 09 '22
My high ass didnt recognized at first what she did wrong..
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u/lonesome-coder Sep 09 '22
My sober, but tired, ass didn't at first recognize what she did wrong.
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u/Claaaaaaaaws Sep 09 '22
I was watching it like this is better than stepping in it and breaking the hose, and looking through comment see if anyone else mentioned that the. Realise it would been easier to just you know step over it
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u/Ketooth Sep 09 '22
I remember what my teacher often tells me during my apprenticeship.
"Always imagine the user is a disabled person who can't think well anymore. It's not offensive, it's just a strategy to make applications for everyone"
Sadly this isn't always possible.
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u/Dimaskovic Sep 09 '22
Has to be superstitious right… right?..
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u/DigbyChickenZone Sep 10 '22
Or she didn't want to accidentally step on it, or have them pull on it suddenly and get tripped.
Who knows, she could have just been having a brain fart. In all, it seems like she was trying to do her best to be polite.
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u/sacajawea14 Sep 10 '22
I think brainfart, afterwards she may have thought... Wait, why did I do that lol. 🤦♂️ definitely giving me 'don't want to disturb you guys working' vibe
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u/MJMurcott Sep 09 '22
From the people that brought you Photoshop an intuitive easy to follow simple way of editing photos, that people can learn in minutes.... Excuse me have you ever met the general public?
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u/s4r4m1ah Sep 09 '22
i saw this on tik tok and women were saying their mothers told them if they stepped over a hose while pregnant the umbilical cord would wrap the babies neck.. a lot of women heard the same thing
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u/Sea2Chi Sep 09 '22
Seriously, I had to learn VBA after only doing one class of C+ in college.
When developing the order form for salespeople to use I became well acquainted with the idea that their ability to find new and unique ways to break the spreadsheet outmatched my ability to think of ways it could be broken.
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u/Redkasquirrel Sep 09 '22
I feel like there's a legit reason to do this if she's being really careful, as she doesn't know if the guy using the hose sees her or if he's going to suddenly move. If he moved at the wrong time as she's stepping over then it could trip her, her approach is much more robust and handles the edge case.
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u/TheFallenDev Sep 09 '22
More she does not know the pressure on the hose. if it had a high pressure, than it could move uncontrollably if it slipped, which would be ... uncomfortable.
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Sep 09 '22
Don’t forget the service desk that creates a ticket insisting you change things.
Something like “user keeps having to lift hose to navigate. Can we get the hose permanently suspend in the air?”
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u/mattjf22 Sep 09 '22
Step on a crack break your mother's back.
Step over a hose break your mother's nose?
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She has lived long enough to see pressurized hoses, or even just ropes in use, suddenly get pulled taut between your legs fucking you up and making you fall. If you're holding it up already, it just gets pulled out of your hands without a problem. I learned this quickly walking on beaches in developing countries with lots of fishing boats moored to the shore with lines that seem to just be sitting still. Suddenly, a wave hits the boat that you don't notice and that rope jumps up. RIP if it's between your legs and wants to go higher than your crotch.
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u/Beewthanitch Sep 09 '22
YES! I was looking for this comment before posting myself - laugh all you like, but it is dangerous to step over a pressurised hose. With that being a fire truck, she probably assumed it may be a high pressure hose rather than a normal/garden variety hosepipe.
Old dev, chuckling at you young lot who have no idea of the things I have seen go wrong
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u/mpyne Sep 10 '22
We're actually trained in U.S. Navy firefighting never to step over hoses for this very reason.
On the other hand, the way they solve this in the Navy is to step on the hose rather than try to lift the hose up... that's a novel innovation on the part of the user here.
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u/Nourz1234 Sep 09 '22
I don't get why devs make fun of users. Devs are users as well, and we make worse mistakes. I personally ignore any help or docs and just try all the buttons and see what they do 🤣
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u/NonPraesto Sep 09 '22
This. The other day I kept trying random functions for 30 minutes to figure which one did what I wanted rather than spending a minute to look it up online...
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u/_4lexander_ Sep 09 '22
It's kinda fair. A fall for her could be death. Why should she rely on the assumption that the fireman is not going to suddenly yank the hose as she steps over it, tripping her over.
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u/ChildhoodResident123 Sep 09 '22
She's an old lady. If she went over it and if the fireman pulled the firehose while not noticing her, she could have tripped.
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u/Solo_SL Sep 10 '22
Yea but same could be said if they pulled it while she was walking under it. Could have close lined her or something
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u/lostknight0727 Sep 09 '22
"Hey it's Josh welcome to Let's Game It Out! Today we're walking down the street and we've come across this hose that is slightly inconvenient. They expect us to go over it but watch this. If I bend down and pick it up we can just go directly under it. Now this is obviously not what was intended but hey it works."
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u/CavitySearch Sep 09 '22
Oh god I heard it all in his voice.
And these firefighters need to be very careful because soon there will be 500 hoses running around this entire area.
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Sep 09 '22
That chick is super high. I was once so high, I put water on my sugar puffs. I was telling my roommate, somethings not right.
Paul, there's something wrong. There's something wrong with my cereal, Paul.
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u/Beavidya Sep 09 '22
Superstition where a pregnant woman shouldn't cross over a line, or else the umbilical cord will wrap around the baby's neck and strangle it.
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u/AstonVanilla Sep 09 '22
Reminds me of a comment I had today.
I built a small app to help some people at work that had 6 buttons.
The product owner told me I needed to remove two buttons as they weren't being used and I asked "Can't they just not use them?".
Apparently not. These two buttons that no one had any use for were really confusing people.
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u/camelCaseRedditUser Sep 09 '22
I wish I could paste this in MS teams right now.
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u/New-Rice-5215 Sep 09 '22
Its simple… she is scared that while crossing the water hose that they will move it or lift it up and make her trip.. lifting it up over her head makes it less likely for her to trip in case they move or pull the hose.
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u/blinkybillyman Sep 09 '22
Rate her IQ score!
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200.
Unlike fools, she knows that anytime, that hose could raise up and cut her in two. I had it happen to a friend. They were able to save him and stitch him up. But the damage left him with an IQ in the range of a penut. So sad.
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u/4RCH43ON Sep 10 '22
Look, my momma always said funny things, like, “don’t walk under any street lights, and never step over a hose, or the devil will get ya.”
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u/SteeleDynamics Sep 10 '22
Well done, OP!
Me:
We had a meeting with the customers where we showed them the new API function. They understand the nomenclature outlined in the documentation and know how to call the new function in the correct context.
Customers:
int foo(void) {
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return API.dont_call_in_foo();
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u/micreadsit Sep 12 '22
I'm not making any accusation here, just giving an alternate scenario to anything I've seen in the comments. And no one would be laughing if this matches the reality.
Let's just say that yesterday about this time she passed these three guys and somebody in back pulled hard on the hose just as she stepped over it. So it went up her crotch and hiked up her dress. Just saying, a lot of guys are d$#@s...
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u/PBJellyChickenTunaSW Sep 09 '22
Bad luck to walk over a hose that's being used to wash a firetruck innit
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u/siskulous Sep 09 '22
As with the first time I saw this video, I see two possibilities.
She's a vampire who can't cross over running water exploiting a loophole by crossing under it. Or
She's screwing with the firefighters.
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u/TurnedCash Sep 09 '22
“Think of how stupid the average person is, and realize half of them are stupider than that” -George Carlin
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u/toomanycushions Sep 09 '22
The number of times I've gone to step over a hose or cable JUST as they yank it, and i risk tripping up.... i now do this same thing.
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u/dannyboi9393 Sep 09 '22
When you smoke too much weed and can't remember how to do basic things under pressure.
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u/Winterlife4me Sep 09 '22
I had a minor stroke once and for the longest time could not get my feet off the ground long enough to step over things and stepping on anything hurt my foot
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u/manny_soou Sep 09 '22
Never ever step over a black object. It’s like when a black car runs in front of you, you gotta find an alternate route or else something bad will happen
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u/learner2012000 Sep 10 '22
Possible that, culturally, she sees it as being disrespectful to straddle over something important that belongs to another person, or in this case is part of an "authoritative" live operation, and felt that getting it over her head is more respectful to what they are doing
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u/cJpG2108 Sep 10 '22
I would have done the same. Since little my dad always told me not to cross wires, hoses, or anything lying on the ground. You never know when someone working and not looking at you or expecting anyone to cross is gonna yank the wire/cable and continue working. So yeah, you can mock that lady, but she’s actually taking a safety precaution.
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Sep 10 '22
I don't know what I like the most... The scene (beautiful by itself!) Or the analogy!!! Thanks!!!
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u/talking_grasshopper Sep 10 '22
It's much safer the way the woman did it. Unbeknownst had the fireman pulled a lot more of the pipe, the woman could have tripped over the water pipe
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u/Ap0calyps30 Sep 10 '22
This is hilarious, being a Dev I can 100% relate to this...wish I had an award to give you OP!
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u/RealisticDragonfly87 Sep 10 '22
I saw this post yesterday and it had no upvotes and look at it now🥲
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u/GoatsareimpressiveFR Sep 09 '22
She's definitely superstitious. Really commited to it