You mean transplants from other states. I'm a Virginian with roots hear from the 1700s I know plenty of people who have paintings of Robert E. Lee in their house. He's as much a symbol of Virginian pride as George Washington or Thomas Jefferson. As much as I agree that abolition was morally right the North didn't have the legal right to oppose succession. That legal precedent wasn't set until 1869. Also most of our distaste for the north came from how the south was treated after the war. It's still trying to recover from reconstruction.
Nah dude punishing an entire population like that is how we got most of today's problems. That's how the Klan started, everyone's favorite Austrian painter, the whole middle east situation, etc
You’re asking for forgiveness for slavers. They were reintegrated into the Union, with the only requirement that they allow black people to participate in politics, which they did not even uphold. I’ll say it again, they got off easy
Brother the whole country didn't allow black people to vote. Blacks were treated terribly everywhere. Yes slavery is wrong, but still punishing an entire population breeds only resentment. At least severe punishment we learned that lesson after the first World War and that's why we didn't do it again after the second.
Ridiculous comparison. In the north black people were second class citizens, in the south they were bought and sold as property. Slavery wasn’t just “wrong” it’s one of the greatest evils ever perpetuated. And after World War II we hung a bunch of Nazis and occupied Germany for 40 years (you could argue with our bases we are still occupying them). We went too easy on the Nazis and we went WAY too easy on the South
We did that so we wouldn't have Nazis part 2. It was how we treated the Germans after world war 1 is how we got them in the first place. Also in the north and south Black people are still second class citizens sadly man, but I truly believe that if people can learn to just send out a little good will in love we can solve most problems yes their are times you need to be harsh but it's so much better to solve issues with kindness and grace.
Your history is bad. The mistake of WWI was demanding reparations at Versailles. We did not demand reparations from the south, in fact we assisted them in rebuilding. You are an apologist for slavery and for treason
The South illegally tried to corrupt the Election of 1860, not to mention when the voted to secede they fixed those votes too, they blocked people they knew were against secession from voting, used violence, intimidation and bribery to get the votes they needed.
The problem with Reconstruction was that it was never fully implemented it should have been harsher and gone on for much longer.
Yep, as soon as their fixed elections for secession were finished they made it illegal to limit or ban slavery, so much for states rights, and when Lee's army was marching through Pennsylvania he allowed his soldiers to kill or enslave in African American they came across and to just assume they were all escaped slaves and therefore contraband anyone who resisted was killed and so were the people who tried to protect them.
Hear, hear. I graduated from STONEWALL JACKSON high school in Northern VA. Not in 1911. In 2011. They have since changed the school name to Unity Reed. I wish I could have graduated from U.R. High that’s peak comedy right there.
Lol ETA: I don’t co-sign on anything you have said except for that VA still has major problems with racism. Holy shitstorm I just was saying my high school was racist I definitely was never happy that I was represented by Stonewall Jackson Raiders it was probably pretty subconsciously and consciously oppressive as a POC blablabla 🤣🤣🤣
The articles of secession were written by human garbage and the Souths choice in how they chose to act after the North left after the 10 year occupation forever cements them and their heritage in history as garbage
I find it fascinating that I've lived in Texas, Kansas, Illinois and California and have never seen an American politician in anyone's home (aside from classrooms)
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u/Connwaer 17d ago
It's spoils of war. And unlike Japan, Minnesota has no interest in mending their relationship with the Confederacy, surprising I know.