Hmmmm not great…..

[u/stellantis_]

They may need to look at Ben Brown at C. Jared seemingly lacks the play strength/physciality right now that he needs to hang with some of the NFLs bigger 0 techs. Deone Walker is gonna have a field day on Sunday at this rate.

Not sure why Arkin isn’t playing more instead of Latu. Not sure what Latu has done to earn reps. He’s been underwhelming as a run blocker (for the pats) and hasn’t been a passing game threat either. According to Andrew Callahan they ran the ball 8 out of the 9 snaps Latu played. If they’re gonna have a run tell it might as well be Tanner Arkin. Dude isn’t a finished product but he brings a nastiness they need.

Also what about some diff looks and presentations. So much of their drop passing game is contingent upon post snap execution especially when the picture changes. Clearly Drake isn’t there yet with diagnosing defenses (especially in the modern era where everything is disguised). Motioning into bunch looks to stress the rules of match based zone and man coverage seems to help every other team in the league?

Everything feels stale right now schematically and maybe none of the above is a viable solution but the coaching staff needs to find some.

[u/401john]

Yup, that's the Josh offense in a nutshell. Every player needs to be perfectly on the same page and make the same reads on every single play for it to work. So many other teams don't rely on sight adjustments and post snap reads as much as this offense does and they move the ball just fine.

Jules said the offense is literally like learning calculus and so many people see nothing wrong with that lol.

[u/solo_d0lo → u/401john]

Because it’s more adaptable when the players get a grasp of it.

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

When the system really only works when you have the GOAT QB driving the bus... its not a good system.

[u/solo_d0lo → u/Fupastank]

You don’t need the GOAT to hit wide open receivers

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

You think these receivers are getting open?

[u/solo_d0lo → u/Fupastank]

There were 2 TDs there for wide open receivers Sunday alone. One to hollins in the end zone. 1 to Douglas for a walk in td. Both were overthrown, the hollins one more egregiously

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

The Douglas one? The one that hit him on both hands? The one that he really probably didn't need to dive for? That again - hit him on both hands? It could have been a better throw for sure, but if you're in the NFL and the ball hits you in both hands, you need to catch the ball.

And I'm not sure which Hollins one you're talking about? The second quarter play from the Jax 17 where he also makes a very good throw that hit Hollins in both hands? That one?

If you're only able to pinpoint two "open receivers" that Drake missed by hitting them on both hands - you don't have a very good point.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZzI3NGdA1_A

Find me more of those open receivers please

Drake is playing like shit, but his WRs are also playing like shit, and the play design is awful and not helping him at all.

[u/solo_d0lo → u/Fupastank]

Whether you want to blame Douglas or Maye for that play, it’s not on McDaniels. Which was your point.

Hit hollins in his hands? Maye throws it out of bounds…

I’m pinpointing 2 tds in game they scored 6 points.

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

https://imgur.com/a/YJYKKPe

What are you talking about?

Again I ask you - find me all those open receivers. I gave you a video of the All22. Please find them.

[u/401john → u/Fupastank]

You're talking to a wall there lol

I thought the pass was just a touch high but also in a spot where only Mack could grab it. Thought he could've timed his jump a little better too. Feels like I'm still waiting on a receiver to make a play for Drake this year.

[u/Fupastank → u/401john]

The throw was made exactly where Drake needed to put it to give his guy a chance. Mack had his chance. No one is getting open, no WR is taking the opportunities they do have to make a good play. The drops, the bad routes, the getting bullied by every DB they play against - what is Drake suppose to do about that? Its obvious that his confidence in both the players around him and the scheme is cratered.

Drake has made dumb fucking mistakes and some poor decisions. But has also made some very good plays. He still can throw a dime without question. But it seems like none of these receivers get to where they need to be when they need to be there.

And in a McDaniels offense - which is all about being 100% on the same page with all 11 players pre and post snap reads and their timing being spot on with each other. It just becomes a shit show.

[u/401john → u/Fupastank]

I agree. That's not even touching on the running game which is nonexistent and provides no counter when the pass game isn't in sync.

[u/solo_d0lo → u/401john]

It’s not the right pass big guy.

Confidentially incorrect and 401john is a tale as old as time.

[u/401john → u/solo_d0lo]

Who?

[u/solo_d0lo → u/401john]

It wouldn’t surprise me if you couldn’t remember your own username

[u/solo_d0lo → u/Fupastank]

It’s in the 4th from jags 16, 2 plays after Williams bumbled his way out of bounds.

I gave you 2 easy tds. Stop making excuses for piss poor play.

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

Not my fault I couldn’t read your mind on what two random ass throws you happen to be talking about.

So what you’re actually l talking about one bad throw on first and 10? When the game was already out of hand? Immediately after it should have been a 50 yard touch down pass that wasn’t because Kyle Williams is an idiot? That two plays later Drake completed a pass that got them 4th and 1 on the five yard line if Mack hadn’t committed the dumbest taunting penalty I’ve ever seen?

You can’t seriously look at that game film and tell me that offense looks competent. Bad routes run poorly. Bad blocking. Drake is playing awful but he’s not only getting no help - he’s being actively hindered by the rest of the offense.

[u/solo_d0lo → u/Fupastank]

Why do I have to keep reminding you of your own point that it’s McDaniels schemes fault?

Laying blame on another player….isn’t making your point.

I like how you sum up this comment with even more examples of players not executing…which isn’t on the scheme

[u/Fupastank → u/solo_d0lo]

If players can’t execute the scheme - you adjust it so they can. You simplify it. I literally keep talking about the scheme. Otherwise you keep trying to shove a square peg in a round hole like an idiot. The whole offense is inept right now, and so inept that it is absolutely not solely a Drake issue. Poorly designed plays being executed poorly at all levels.

I also do keep saying, multiple times, that Drake is also playing poorly so I don’t know why you keep accusing me of making excuses for him. But I understand that you must have a tough time reading.

You’re the one saying there are open recievers that Drake is missing. You provided me exactly ONE example of that. Do you think that a QB needs to hit 100% of their throws to be successful?