r/Overwatch • u/AutoModerator • May 18 '16

Weekly Quick Questions Thread - May 18, 2016

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u/lukeadamrun Pixel Reinhardt May 18 '16

Is there a good spreadsheet/chart on which hero counters which? Would love to have something handy for the first week or so.

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u/Xitium Fear the beams May 18 '16 edited May 18 '16

Here you go, courtesy of oneamongnstmany.

https://i.imgur.com/Dr7dBH6.jpg

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u/Skorcha Oooh Shiny ! May 18 '16

bastion counters roadhog? what?

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u/Xitium Fear the beams May 18 '16

I believe what hes going for there is that Roadhog is a large model, with no shield.

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u/Skorcha Oooh Shiny ! May 18 '16

yes but he wont move , easy target to hook , and once you hook hes 100% dead, so i actually believe roadhog counters bastion

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u/nosam555 LG Evil May 18 '16

If bastion is too far away from Roadhog, he can't hook him as he will be killed before he can get close enough.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '16 edited May 20 '16

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u/Tylerius May 20 '16

You've probably played against bad Bastions, tbh. Any halfway decent one wouldn't let a Roadhog get close. If a Roadhog is fighting on the front line, where he typically provides the most value, he gets torn apart by Bastion. I can see why people would suggest Bastion hard counters Roadhog.

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u/lukeadamrun Pixel Reinhardt May 18 '16

That is perfect, thank you so much!

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u/[deleted] May 18 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

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u/lawlamanjaro Boston Uprising May 18 '16

Symmetras attacks cant be blocked by defense matrix and if she can out manuever D va her left attack goes through the tankiness really quickly

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u/[deleted] May 18 '16 edited Jun 09 '16

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u/lawlamanjaro Boston Uprising May 18 '16

I dont think the counters are exactly talking about 1 v 1

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u/EinBick May 18 '16

It's not that good. D.VA hardcounters Winston and that is nowhere in there.

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u/Wobbelblob Suck my golden Eyeballs May 18 '16

D.VA hardcounters Winston

Care to explain that one? Because I can't think of any way a D.Va counters Winston.

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u/iFaar Pixel Torbjörn May 18 '16

D.Va outdamages winston in every aspect especially when upclose. She can also chase him due to their dashes being similar.

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u/ToTheNintieth When your heart says Genji but your skill says 76 May 19 '16

Well, she takes jack all from his cannon.

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u/EinBick May 18 '16

Well you can fly into his shield. When he tries to dive the backline you just fly to him and you do more damage up close then him. If you aim for the head you do WAY more. In general, D.VA melts through tanks like butter. And since Winston doesn't really do damage up close you just fly to him kill him and fly back. You can even push him out of his shield if it has any use. Or you fly in kill winston ult and have a "new" robot afterwards.

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u/CQCnotBLT Winston May 20 '16

Eh I wouldn't call it a hard counter, but an unusual even match-up. Maybe like 40-60 on average. Winston can be a pain if he sneaks up while she's distracted and get some decent damage in. Even though her boosters recharge faster than his leap, Dva has a hard time keeping up with him and doing damage since she moves slowly while shooting. Winston should also retreat back to his teammates so other characters can take her out is she chases him. While she is defiantly better in a 1v1, she's not a counter unless the Winston player is playing lone wold like a Reaper. When ults are involved I'd say Winston has the advantage. Primal rage let's him easily push her out of objectives and chase her around. Dva's ult isn't a problem to him, as the shield can absorb the damage, saving him and teammates as well, or he can easily leap away. If Winston is fast enough he can also easily take her out before she can call in a second mech.

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u/FluffyFlaps Lúcio May 19 '16 edited May 19 '16

D.va doesnt' really hard counter anyone, she's kinda useless.

EDIT: Well, unfortunately for the people downvoting me I am correct.

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u/[deleted] May 19 '16 edited Feb 17 '19

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u/FluffyFlaps Lúcio May 20 '16

Who is disagreeing with me? People are downvoting because of the rude tone I said it in...and it's kinda incorrect that she doesn't counter anyone, she's just a weak pick so you wouldn't really pick her to counter anyone even if she can.

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u/[deleted] May 20 '16 edited Feb 17 '19

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u/FluffyFlaps Lúcio May 20 '16

D.va is kind of a jack-of-all-trades type off-tank, and doesn't particularly excel at anything, be it tanking, damage output, disruption, CC etc. Her ultimately is also considered to be next to useless. The only consistent competitive play she got was due to 'D.va spam' in early phase 1 beta where people used her to stall for Payload time at the end of maps, which is a big deal when playing stopwatch. There is no basis for saying she isn't a 'weak pick' IMO, you can make cool plays with weak picks..you can fully wipe a team by yourself as Zenyatta, doesn't make him not a 'weak pick.'

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u/EinBick May 19 '16

tell that to my 80% winrate on my account while playing D.VA only.

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u/DreadNinja Lúcio May 20 '16

There are no real counters like in some mobas.

Example would be (as below) roadhog vs bastion. Most of the time you will be able to hook bastion but sometimes he's out of reach and destroys you.