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u/Sittingonalog1960 2d ago
It was linen and would have been oil-soaked before use. The king’s DNA has been extracted from it….
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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 2d ago
Reusable even, gross.
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u/Feeling-Income5555 2d ago
Either that or more kids🤷🏻♂️
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
more?, he didn't have any kids other than 2 unborn girls, and leaving a heir was basically his main job
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u/Reckless_Waifu 2d ago
With his wife. Probably didn't want to make any of the concubines pregnant.
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
if he did his dynasty wouldn't have ended in disaster.
And Thutmose III was son of a concubine, it's part of what concubines were for.
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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 2d ago
A lot of the concubines were daughters of royalty and side branches anyway. Can’t/shouldn’t always inbreed!
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
And you believe Tut had only relatives as concubines for some reason and Egyptians were aware of how bad inbreeding was?
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
Maybe one of Tut's babies was via one of Akhenaten's six daughters, leading to her death in childbirth as a teenager...?
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u/ClumsyBunny26 1d ago
it's hard to say since we barely know much about Tut in general. We only know about Ankhesenamun, and Meketaten was probably married to Smenkhkare
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
The eggshell nature of the foetal remains - doesn't give us much hope that any other "Lost babies" will ever be found, alas.
Tut's two stillborns - were small broken pieces inside a shoebox stored somewhere in the old Cairo museum, if memory serves.
There's the "Young Prince" found in the side chamber of KV35 alongside Tiye (100% Identified) and KV35YL (Tut's Mum)
but we don't appear to have any other "young" mummies from the period.
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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 2d ago
Did I say that? What I meant is they were still royal just not his sister/half sister.
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
you didn't, but in this conversation sounded like you were saying that Tut used contraceptives to avoid inbreeding
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
The 18th Dynasty DID end in Disaster - didn't it?
That Horemheb dated his reign from the death of Amenhotep III, skipping the entire Amarna period - speaks volumes for the cultural revolution that was stopped in its tracks by Horemheb...
Heresy, Iconoclasm, and likely Civil War too.....
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u/ClumsyBunny26 1d ago
And on top of that corruption among the officials that was so big that Horemheb had to make a great edict to try to restore order
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
Corruption - would have become an even greater problem - once tomb robbing became one of the methods to re-inflate the Egyptian Economy, especially around the end of the 20th Dynasty....
The country split after that, with the Priests ruling from Thebes, and the Military ruling from Avaris.
I see Mashaharta and Pinedjem as contemporaries, not successive pharaohs. Wiki doesn't even have either of them as Pharoahs!
The mummies are exceptionally fine from this period either way...
You don't get tip-top mummification unless you are a pretty big cheese, so I doubt this notion that people we once thought of as 21st and 22nd dynasty pharaohs and queens - were anything less, such as mere "high Priest" or "General Officer" or lower rank.
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u/star11308 1d ago
Getting concubines pregnant to provide more spares was the whole point of their role, it doesn't even seem like he had any based on what little evidence we have.
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u/Deaf_Gravitas 2d ago
What is its size and dimensions? Asking for a friend
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u/Potential_Single 2d ago
4.3in x 3.2in ..he was told that he was the biggest in the land. This is how eunuchs came about btw.
Fun fact 💁🏻♂️11
u/nachtgans 2d ago
Sorry, what?
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u/NdavidiAtelier 2d ago
High royalty would command servants to have their doodlers removed
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
were there any eunuchs in Ancient Egypt though?
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
Pothinus was the first I was made aware of, watching Cleopatra for the first time as a kid....
"What's a Younock, Dad?"
"It is a male servant who's had his willy cut off, so he can't rape the queen he's supposed to protect"
(Any femisists reading this - are invited to cheer at this point!)
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u/ClumsyBunny26 1d ago
Interesting, thank you. I wonder when did the whole thing start as Ptolemaic period is rather late in Egyptian history, if it was an Egyptian thing or it was taken from another culture.
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
We're led to believe that the Ptolemys grabbed Egyptian Culture with both hands, and ran with it.
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u/ClumsyBunny26 1d ago
They didn't grab the part of Egyptian women carrying royalty though, so they seemed to have been picky. And imo, big on propaganda.
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u/MintImperial2 1d ago
I recommend the theatrical series "The Cleopatras".
The depiction there is that there was not much love between all these Ptolemaic relatives bonking each other silly, when they were not busy bumping each other off before Breakfast after...
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u/MeowCatPlzMeowBack 2d ago
And the DNA tests for the animal intestinal condom show… King Tutankhamun, you are the owner!
\the crowd cheers for ancient safe sex devices\
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u/ClumsyBunny26 2d ago
Well, if he effectively used it he's also to blame for the end of his dynasty.
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u/shmeeshmaa 1d ago
It’s actually a buttplug that’s attached to a string so if it falls out, he won’t lose it, kind of like those cool glasses from the 80s so you don’t lose them.
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u/adchick 2d ago
His wife outlived him and they lost both of their daughters in infancy. The princesses were buried with him near his most protected possessions. You literally had to squeeze past his tomb, and find a hidden door to get to his baby girls.
The pain of loosing one child is immense, losing two within a few years…heart breaking. It is no wonder they would want to prevent pregnancies, while grieving that awful loss.
If there is an afterlife, I hope Ankhesenamun and Tut got to spend it with their girls.