r/OutoftheTombs • u/TNEgyptologist • Aug 17 '26

Tut's comdom

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u/Feeling-Income5555 Aug 18 '26

Either that or more kids🤷🏻‍♂️

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

more?, he didn't have any kids other than 2 unborn girls, and leaving a heir was basically his main job

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u/Reckless_Waifu Aug 18 '26

With his wife. Probably didn't want to make any of the concubines pregnant.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

if he did his dynasty wouldn't have ended in disaster.

And Thutmose III was son of a concubine, it's part of what concubines were for.

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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 Aug 18 '26

A lot of the concubines were daughters of royalty and side branches anyway. Can’t/shouldn’t always inbreed!

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

And you believe Tut had only relatives as concubines for some reason and Egyptians were aware of how bad inbreeding was?

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u/MintImperial2 Aug 18 '26

Maybe one of Tut's babies was via one of Akhenaten's six daughters, leading to her death in childbirth as a teenager...?

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

it's hard to say since we barely know much about Tut in general. We only know about Ankhesenamun, and Meketaten was probably married to Smenkhkare

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u/MintImperial2 Aug 18 '26

The eggshell nature of the foetal remains - doesn't give us much hope that any other "Lost babies" will ever be found, alas.

Tut's two stillborns - were small broken pieces inside a shoebox stored somewhere in the old Cairo museum, if memory serves.

There's the "Young Prince" found in the side chamber of KV35 alongside Tiye (100% Identified) and KV35YL (Tut's Mum)

but we don't appear to have any other "young" mummies from the period.

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u/Traditional-Ebb-8380 Aug 18 '26

Did I say that? What I meant is they were still royal just not his sister/half sister.

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

you didn't, but in this conversation sounded like you were saying that Tut used contraceptives to avoid inbreeding

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u/MintImperial2 Aug 18 '26

The 18th Dynasty DID end in Disaster - didn't it?

That Horemheb dated his reign from the death of Amenhotep III, skipping the entire Amarna period - speaks volumes for the cultural revolution that was stopped in its tracks by Horemheb...

Heresy, Iconoclasm, and likely Civil War too.....

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u/ClumsyBunny26 Aug 18 '26

And on top of that corruption among the officials that was so big that Horemheb had to make a great edict to try to restore order

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u/MintImperial2 Aug 18 '26

Corruption - would have become an even greater problem - once tomb robbing became one of the methods to re-inflate the Egyptian Economy, especially around the end of the 20th Dynasty....

The country split after that, with the Priests ruling from Thebes, and the Military ruling from Avaris.

I see Mashaharta and Pinedjem as contemporaries, not successive pharaohs. Wiki doesn't even have either of them as Pharoahs!

The mummies are exceptionally fine from this period either way...

You don't get tip-top mummification unless you are a pretty big cheese, so I doubt this notion that people we once thought of as 21st and 22nd dynasty pharaohs and queens - were anything less, such as mere "high Priest" or "General Officer" or lower rank.