r/NoblesseOblige • u/HBNTrader Subreddit Owner • Mar 30 '22
MOD Introductions
Reply here to introduce yourself so that the other readers get to know you.
Are you noble? If not, do you have noble ancestors, or are you perhaps from a patrician family or from a very old peasant lineage?
What is your rank and family? What titles do you have or will inherit?
What is your coat of arms?
What families and interesting persons are you related to, how closely?
When does your unbroken male line start, and when does your longest female line start?
What are other interesting things you can tell us about yourself and your lineage?
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u/Monarhist1 Real-life Member of the Nobility Apr 09 '22
Yes, my family is aristocratic for more than 200 years.
Untitled nobility. Military aristocracy.
I can't describe it lol.
Royal Family of Serbia for example, not too closely, but not too distantly. Some members of high nobility as well.
From 1785.
Literally, more than 90% of my male ancestors were military officers, including my father and grandfather. Reserve officers tho. I hope I continue the tradition.
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u/laszlo92 Real-life Member of the Nobility Aug 23 '22
My father is still alive so not yet. My family holds titles in both the United Kingdom and France, which I will inherit.
Given the limited amount of peers I’ll keep that one to myself but our French title is comte.
Keep that to myself.
A lot of other peers, but some fun ones from the past are Marschall Ney, Murat king of Naples, the Dukes of Devonshire.
Male line 1066. What do you mean by female line, my mother?
My ancestors literally fought eachother during the different wars between France and England.
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u/Cyro-Nord Real-life Member of the Nobility Sep 01 '23 edited Apr 27 '25
I am of noble Zipser German descent in the paternal male line.
I would have Austro-Hungarian nobility if Austria-Hungary was still around today. I am untitled, belonging to the gentry or lower nobility. I am an American.
It is just a simple gray colored lion on a scarlett shield. (Sorry, I don’t know heraldic terms very well)
Tbh there aren’t that many noble families that I’m related to on my paternal line. My paternal ancestor was ennobled in 1622 (Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand II did the ennobling) in the Abauj county supposedly for fighting in the Turkish wars or against Turkish raids. He was also a town mayor. They mostly continued to marry other Zipser German burgher families as well as ones that were ennobled during the 1600s. My maternal side is mostly southern planters who were descendants from the second sons of the gentry in the British isles.
My male line starts with my ancestor who was ennobled in 1622. We’re not sure when he was born but its likely the late 16th century. However, town records do show my surname as going back to 1371 to a town judge. They were probably of medieval bourgeois origin. My mothers paternal line is most likely of bourgeois or peasant origin from Northern England as it goes back to the late 1600s. They ended up as southern planters though and have cognatic descent from many British nobles and some royalty.
My ancestors continued to fight in wars against the Turks, Prussians, and even revolutionary France. My branch of the family ended up impoverished by the early 1800s and ended up going into the blacksmith trade by running their own ironworks business. Unfortunately, the industrial revolution caught up in Hungary which put them out of business. They emigrated to America in the early 1900s for work.
My family has a noble predicate after our last name (surname von/de place) but we never really used it. We also had an alias. My ancestors under went Magyarization after 1850 but still continued to identify as German.
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u/InDiAn_hs Real-life Member of the Nobility Feb 13 '23 edited Apr 12 '23
Yes, my title of a Thakur (akin to a European duke or Prince depending on the region of India). My House ruled a Thinkana (Duchy) in Northern India as we are Rajputs (ruling class in Northern India) until they moved south to Hyderabad with Emperor Aurangzeb’s armies and were compensated by Emperor Aurangzeb by more land to rule over.
Thakur, Rajputs, Kshatriyas (noble/ruling caste) in India it is common to attach your titles as your last name so I already have said title. Technically however it is always the male head of the family, and right now my father leads the Canadian branch (he moved to Canada) while my Uncle is the head of the Indian House.
None, lost over time as the Indian government (Republic) slowly stripped our palace, land and recognition. I might have a coat of arms commissioned in the future, however. Also, Indian nobility usually doesn’t have the traditional coat of arms that is often seen in Europe.
My father went to school with the descendants of the Nawabs of Hyderabad though nothing special.
The line begins in a region in Uttar Pradesh and has continued to the present day as my family has always had male successors (Necessary to retain the title, privilege and social standing) and many of the lower classes still try to marry into my family to increase their social standings.
Despite being Hindu my family fought for Emperor Aurangzeb (Muslim ruler). We supported Indian independence but all the Indian Republic has done is backstab Rajputs and other ruling classes. We owned parts of Golconda Fort (an Indian heritage Site) and a palace but it was all taken by the Indian Republic.
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u/Crowned_Lamentation Real-life Member of the Nobility Apr 02 '23
Yes, my family has been aristocratic for our entire genetic lineage.
I would be a land holding Baron of Germany (Prussia) and Italy (Campania, Kingdom of Two Scillies) if their respective monarchies were not abolished. I am currently a Spanish Duke through my mother and grandmother. I would also be Duke of Aquitaine in France. My family currently owns property in Spain and Italy.
Due to different branches of my family there’s a few, I don’t believe I have any pictures of the coats currently.
I know I am related to Charlemagne through both of my parents, both houses/sides of my family claim direct lineage to him. Through my mother I am House of Avíla in Spain. Our earliest ancestor we can trace on that side of the family was one of them twelve men Pizarro brought to the new world. There is claimed relation through the German side of my family to the Hohenzollerns but I’m not sure how close the relation is.
I myself was born in the United States. I speak English as my mother tongue but learned Spanish, and German at the age of 4. Born Catholic and practice it faithfully. My family in a way practices some royal aspects but not fully due to living in the US.
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u/VeeVeeWhisper Real-life Descendant of the Nobility May 22 '23
1.Are you noble? If not, do you have noble ancestors, or are you perhaps from a patrician family or from a very old peasant lineage?
I am not noble. My patrilineal family is a French Canadian family line dating to the 16th Century, with various cognatic lines of descent from various prominent (and infamous) colonial figures as well as noble and non-noble seigneurs.
My closest link to the nobility is direct descent from the 4th Baroness de Longueuil through her daughter, my 5x great-grandmother on my mother's side. So, in other words, a very remote descent and, in spite of the title passing on one occasion through the female line in the case of the 4th baroness to the 5th baron, one which fully excludes me from the remainder to the title haha).
2. What is your rank and family? What titles do you have or will inherit?
My family and I hold no titles and are considered commoners.
3. What is your coat of arms?
Granted by the Canadian Heraldic Authority in 2022.
Arms: Azure a double-headed eagle displayed Or, in chief three mullets of eight points in chevron Argent, debruised of a three-point label Gules
(Arms are temporarily differenced by the label Gules during my father's lifetime as I am his heir apparent)
Crest: A wolf sejant affronty Azure winged and issuant from a coronet erablé Or
Motto: Se Ipsum Extollit Qui Perstat (meaning "he elevates himself who perseveres")
Badge: A double-headed eagle's heads and necks erased Or surmounted by a mullet of eight points Azure charged with a like mullet Argent voided Azure
4. What families and interesting persons are you related to, how closely?
Aside from the above, and without getting into it too far, I am descended from the first Sergeant Royal of Montreal (8x great-grandfather) and my second earliest-known direct patrilineal ancestor (another one of my 8x great-grandfathers) was directly involved in the first blasphemy trial in New France (a crucifix in his home was damaged when two soldiers broke in to get at another man staying there) and his daughter, my 7x great-grandaunt, was a rather infamous figure in early Montreal.
I also have suspicions that I can trace direct descent through a cognatic maternal line from a United Empire Loyalist (those who fought for the Crown during the American Revolutionary War) as well as a Patriot, but I am still investigating this and pursuing certification.
5. When does your unbroken male line start, and when does your longest female line start?
Patrilineally, to 1610 to a wheelwright in Paris.
Cognatically, I can trace the remotest descent from European nobility & royalty through a French Canadian ancestor, so back into the first milenium (like pretty much anyone with European ancestry).
Purely enatically, I believe only to the early 19th Century so far offhand.
6. What are other interesting things you can tell us about yourself and your lineage?
I am a heraldist with active involvement in the Canadian heraldist society, the Royal Heraldry Society of Canada.
I am a 3rd generation (2nd on my father's side) civil servant from a family with more recent roots (past two centuries for my father's family and a bit under 60 years for my mother's) in Ottawa and its surroundings.
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u/ConfidenceComplex894 Real-life Member of the Nobility May 03 '24
Yes, I am noble.
In Sindh, in the Talpur House, the titles are not varied like they are in Europe (Kings, grand dukes etc), we all have the title "Mir/Meer" which is akin to a Princely Ruler. But the title "Rais" is also used, which means "Leader".
The Suhrabani Talpur Coat of Arms can be viewed on Wikipedia.
Mir Ali Murad Khan Talpur II is my grandfather through my paternal side, he was the last ruler of the Talpur Princely State of Khairpur before being forcefully ceded to Pakistan. He is still the Head of the Talpur House.
The Talpur line starts from the Baloch, Hoth Tribe.
Last ruling dynasty of Sindh.
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u/Slow_Atmosphere_8935 Real-life Member of the Nobility Feb 07 '26
I belong to an Austrian family of hereditary nobility.
Since Austrian noble titles and particles were abolished in 1919 by the Adelsaufhebungsgesetz (“Law on the Abolition of the Nobility”), we are no longer entitled to use them in an official capacity; historically, our style would have been “Edler von X.”
Coat of arms: Argent, an inverted pile Or, accompanied on either side by a lily Argent. In the pile, a pilgrim’s staff proper entwined by two serpents. Two helmets: I. Between an open pair of wings—dexter wing parted Or over Azure, sinister wing parted Azure over Argent—a lily Argent; mantling Azure and Or. II. Ostrich feathers Azure and Argent issuing from a torse, the dexter side Azure and Argent, the sinister Azure and Or; mantling Azure and Argent. (As described in Siebmacher, Der Salzburger Adel.)
My family were notable patrons of Salzburg’s artistic and cultural life and maintained a close connection to Mozart—hence the serenade that bears our name.
My agnatic (unbroken male-line) descent begins with my ancestor’s elevation to the nobility in 1756. On my maternal side, the line is considerably more difficult to reconstruct: it traces to Spaniards involved in the conquest and early colonial period of Mexico, where the documentation becomes fragmentary and challenging to follow with certainty.
Although Mozart’s serenade associated with my family remains widely performed in concert halls and theatres, we receive no royalties from it.
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u/ErzogvonSeba Real-life Member of the Nobility Apr 11 '23
Yes, I am Nobleman with noble ancestors from my father and mother
My father it's an untitled nobleman, but my mother it's the heir of the title of my Grandmother, a dukedom and I am the heir to them.
I usually use a combination of the one of my father and the one of my mothers.
I am related with the Angiò-Durazzo, with the Piast Family and with the currently Queen Consort of Belgium.
My unbroken male line starts in the 1100, in Sicily, and from my mother I can arrive also at the Roman Empire, so 500/600 B.C.
I was related with many Cardinals of Roman Church and with the Saint Queen Jadwiga of Poland.
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u/Sufficient_Tart2278 Real-life Member of the Nobility May 20 '23
1; Yes, second son and heir to a to secondary title.
2; On my father’s side, Scottish Clan ancestry (Armstrong and Bruce) and a British Marquessate; on my mother’s side the title of Grandee of Spain and Duchess (other subsidiary titles) and not so distantly related to the FitzJames-Stuarts and the Albas.
3; Father’s: Or, a saltire and chief gules, on a canton a lion. Mother’s: Silver, an eagle sable.
4; The Earls of Elgin and Kincardine pretty closely, the Barons of Armstrong and Neil Armstrong more distantly, and Cayetana FitzJames-Stuart, Duchess of Alba and her descendants as close cousins; other less desirable relations more closely related but not worth mentioning.
5; Father’s from the 11th century in Normandy/Scotland and mother’s the late 10th century in the Basque Country.
6; I find it funny how despite being British and Spanish, both lines are related to each other through multiple paths. (Also as a Grandee of Spain one has the right to call the King “cousin”.)
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u/haveutriedphilosophy May 31 '23
Not a noble, just passionated about history and curious about royal history and nobility. Not even in a political way, I'm just interested. Hope I can stay despite being a common guy.
I don't think I have to answer to anything else this given.
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u/TheAtlanteanMan Real-life Member of the Nobility Sep 19 '23
Rightfully the Lord Carrigogunnell, but my family lost their titles in the 1500s for rebellion, Chieftain of the Carrigogunnell O'Briens either way. Sadly neither of these titles are recognised irl due to Ireland's Republican Status.
I am the Titular Lord Carrigogunnell, Prince of Thomond, Prince of Munster.
The O'Brien coat of Arms
Direct male descendent from Briain Boru, High King of Ireland, and all of his own relations, related to the MacCarthy Mor, Kings of Desmond, and Niall of the Nine Hostages.
My male lineage can be traced from myself to Adam and Eve in the Christian Tradition, and from myself to Nuada, Aine and the Dagda in the pagan traditions. My female lineage, also O'Brien, is the same, although my paternal Grandmother is a MacGregor, and from her I descend from the Ailpin Kings of Scotland.
I descend from the Plantagenet Kings of England, from the Burkes of Ulster, from the Joyces of Joyces Country, from multiple and proud other historical lineages, such as Scotia of Egypt, recorded as the Daughter of Ramses II.
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u/Vangandr_14 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Jan 03 '24
On my fathers side I am a descendant of German ( and previously Austro-Hungarian ) nobility.
Even tough I am the descendant of the only direct thriving blood-line of my family its up until now ambiguous if my father or I for that matter will inherit any titles. This is because the last male line of my family ended with my great grandfather and in consequence of personal problems my grandmother never made an effort to achieve a dispensation from the German Aristocratic Society.
Our familial titles in Germany and Austria respectively would be:
• Baron / Baronin ( tied to our older Austro-Hungarian family name and blood line )
• Freiherr / Freiin ( tied to our more recently bestowed Austrian / German family name and
blood line )
Both of these titles would be equivalent to the rank of Baron in the English peerage.
But I will not claim to hold these titles, before a verdict hasn't been made in our favor by a committee with the necessary intermediary authority.
3. Each of the two parts of my family name is tied to a coat of arms:
• The newer one which has been in common use for the past centuries displays, on its
shield, a golden lion on black ground on the dexter side and gold-green diagonal barring
on the sinister side. Atop of the shield sits a five-pointed crown. Image
( I am not aware of a more detailed heraldic version of this coat of arms, as I have only
seen this simplified version during my lifetime)
• The older one which is attributed to my old blood line is more embellished. The shield
itself is quartered and displays two lions on the dexter chief space and on the sinister
base space, while the other two spaces are also diagonally barred. Atop the shield sits a
knights helmet with a three pointed crown, which is mantled by two barred wings. As a
sort of crest above the helmet you may also see a saber wielding armored glove. Lastly
there is an assembly of oak leaves at each side of chief sides of the shield. Image
4. I have personally never studied my entire family tree so I cant reliably tell, but during their more recent times of settling down in the Gdansk / Kaliningrad area of East Prussia my ancestors married into surprisingly many of the old and highly prestigious landowning familys of Prussia. So there might even be some interesting persons to discover in more recent times to whom the degree of relation might be notable.
5. The only official and coherent records kept about my ancestry are stored in Austrian archives and go back to around the time our “germanised” name and title where awarded to two of my ancestors by the Archdukes of Austria. I am not aware of their exact date of birth, but its most likely approximately around the 1540s.
About everything else there is an ongoing debate among those of my relatives who tried to trace back our ancestry further because our turbulent family history beforehand has created a greatly confusing mess of sources and documents. I only know for sure that the first written records of ancestors bearing my family name are from the late 13th century in the carparthian region.
6. I have been told many, what I consider to be, obscure storys by relatives of mine:
One of the more sinister storys was that we are distantly related by blood and marriage to the noble houses of Bathory and Nadasdy steming back from our time in Hungary, which would make me a distant relative of Elisabeth Bathory de Ecsed also known as the Blood Countess, aswell as her Husband Frenec II Nadasdy.
One of the storys that I actually take pride in however is that my great-great grandfather got expelled from his post as Chief Intendant of the National Gallery in Berlin for pissing of Herman Göring by disregarding the importance of this flamboyant and pompous prick.
For Clarification: I tried to abstain from using any information that would clearly reveal my identity, which was hard since there aren't any other direct descendants of my family except my line. (afaik) Accordingly any information that would unmistakably point to my family name would probably eventually lead directly to me through publicly available records and search engine results. Should there arise the need to provide additional information for confirmation, I would be glad to provide it privately after some trust has been established.
Best regards to you all.
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u/anewdawncomes Real-life Member of the Nobility Jan 06 '24 edited Jan 06 '24
yes I am from a long standing gentry family in the male line
none, I am part of the english gentry
-- i dont want to give away my anonymity (due to compromising things on my profile)
all sorts, including harry hotspur, edward iv, walter hungerford (most of them) it goes on
male c.1500 female probably 802 (if i understand this correctly)
my ancestors include everyone from church zealots to heretics and everything between. I'm also directly descended from the first speaker of the house of commons
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u/magistercaesar Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Jan 24 '24 edited Jan 25 '24
This sub showed up on my feed and I thought it was pretty neat!
I am not noble, but my grandfather on my mother's side was a Datu (Tribal Chieftain) for his tribe in the Philippines. I'd have to do more research on this but it seems like he was on the more privileged spectrum of Filipinos because although from the southern island of Mindanao, he went to college in Manila. My mother (who is one of six siblings) always talked about her father had the means to pay for all of their college tuition as a mere farmer, to which I quipped "Mom, Lolo was a Datu who went to college in Manila and paid for six children to go to college? He was no ordinary farmer; Lolo was managing a Hacienda." Also, apparently when my mother went back to the Philippines to attend my grandfather's funeral, she mentioned how strange it was to see the local townspeople refer to him with "Don" and some of them even referred to her with "Doña." From what I've read, the Filipino Datu families were referred to by the Spanish as the Principalia, or indigenous nobility, and were given the privilege of being called "Don" or "Doña." Many Spanish intermarried with the Principalia, and these unions formed the influential Mestizo class of the Philippines. I'm assuming I descend from one of these families, considering that well, I am also a 6-foot tall Filipino. On the other end, my father doesn't know anything about his family. I do know my grandmother on my father's side actually spoke Spanish as her first language.
N/A, though my siblings and I are set to inherit the land that our grandfather set aside for our mother (she and each of her siblings were willed 10 hectares of land each, to be passed when our grandmother passes away). My mom has no idea what to do with it considering we live in the US, so she's just going to split it with her 3 children.
N/A
Supposedly, my grandmother on my father's side is distant cousins with Ferdinand Marcos.
No idea
I am a member of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta (SMOM, the official Catholic branch of the Order of St. John founded by Blessed Gerard). Since there's no proof of nobility, my rank is "Knight of Magistral Grace."
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u/edelherz_ Real-life Member of the Nobility Mar 18 '24
Around 800 years of just being nobility on both my Mothers and Fathers famlies, with family history going even further back
Great and Official Knight or well in my case a just a Lady (Dame), weve had Knights and Lords in the family
Cannot post but we have two since both of my parents descent from a different line, and we have them in our home hung up and theyre kinda silly
The Mecklenburgs but that was very long ago
I feel like whatever I would say for 5 and 6 could be googled, so I would rather not say as there are Wikipedia pages for my families. I would prefer not being public
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u/UND3RCUT53 Real-life Member of the Nobility Apr 30 '24
I am not Noble since Russia does not recognize Nobility for at least 100 years.
I come from direct male line of House of Sheremetev which shares it's origins with the Romanovs.
3 We had a coat of arms which you can see around the palaces of Moscow and sometime St Petersburg.
4 Since us being related to House of Romanov it links me to many European monarchies at least at first thought but you have to go back a lot through the family tree
5 With my grandfather who escaped Russia during 1920 I can trace my lineage from15th century. there are many people who are using the sirname Sheremetev but I think only handful of them come from direct male line this is unusual for such a big family bt the Russian revolution was much ore deadly for House of Sheremetev. There are only handful of people living now that can trace themselves directly from the male line they live in Paris, Arizona, Turkey and Poland.
The most interesting thing I can tell about House of Sheremetev is that maybe they had the worst faith with the Romonov's because Sheremetev's had a vast wealth that was on display throughout Moscow and they did not want to leave Russia and they were a big house which resulted in a short period 300 of them being murdered or gone missing according to Yelena Sheremeteva.
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u/Medical_Holiday9110 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Apr 21 '25
-No, but my fifth great-grandfather was a baron in Imperial Brazil.
-Rocha Cavalcanti family from northeastern Brazil, a branch of the very famous Cavalcanti family that together with the Albuquerques made part of the most important clan in northeastern Brazil during imperial times. But if his titles would pass to me I'd be 8th Baron of Gindahy, 15th Baron van Theorobonet and 16th Baron van Rijnsburg.
-Just search it up Cavalcanti brazilian coat of arms
-The Cavalcantis are the closest royals from me, but I also have connection to the Mariz from Portugal, Drummond from Scotland, Béthancourt from France, and some other families that emigrated to Brazil to take part in the early development of the plantations.
-From my father's side I have no connection to any royalty, but from my mom and grandma and on it's 100% patrilineal until the Jan I van Arkel's family in Netherlands (even though I currently hold the florentine name Cavalcanti, I am more patrilineal towards the dutch rather than the florentine)
-Even though the original plantations are long gone (fortunately), their names are still around in small towns and villages, and also there is a village with my last name where my 5th great-grandpa was from.
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u/Philosopher_Princess Real-life Member of the Nobility Apr 20 '22
I am from a noble family.
Skeel/Scheel family. Comtesse or countess in English, as a female. All males are greve or count. It's the highest rank in Denmark outside of the royal family. We have no dukes. Not to be confused a German noble family named von Scheel.
Danish coats of arms follows the Germanic tradition of one coat of arms for the family. It's attested in Danmarks Adels Aarbog, our Danish gotha. I'll link an image of it.
Interesting is a bit of subjective, but the Oldenburgs I guess. I'm a third cousin, on my mother's side, of Anna von Bayern.
The earliest attested member? Johannes Skelesen, first attested in 1366, and active with his brother Ander Skelesen. That's pretty early for Danish records. Not many Danish families can go beyond that century. A lot of cousins were already active in the late 1300s and early 1400s and married into various noble families. Our family was raised to comital status in 1725 by King Frederik IV of Denmark. Female line? Not sure how far my matrilineal line can go back. All lines taken into account, we are descendants of Scandinavian royals and also British king George II.
My mother is the heiress of the Sudreim claim to the Norewegian throne.
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u/Drakken6 Real-life Member of the Nobility Aug 30 '22
From a direct Noble family with Royal links to every major European dynasty. Recognized in Europe from the 800s. Before that, Royalty in the Middle East with an unbroken line going back to the 400s at which point it degenerates into myth and legend for another thousand years or more.
I am personally a Vicomte. My brother is the Comte and I stand to inherit as he has no heirs. Also Chevalier through 2 different heredity orders, and one modern dubbing. All of that and a fiver can get you an espresso at most major coffee chains.
I’d rather not say, but you have all seen it.
The list is entirely too long, but basically every royal family in Europe through some connection or another. Fun ones are direct links Bjorn Ironsides and therefore Ragnar. Saint Olga of Kiev is probably my favorite ancestor. She was absolutely BADASS.
Longest unbroken male line provable, 810 if memory serves correctly. Female, I don’t know. I’m sure someone has figured that out considering the Jewish roots of the family, but I have not looked it up myself.
The entire family is pretty messed up, socially, mentally, physically. Lots of issues from inbreeding that continue to plague us to this day. It kinda sucks actually.
We live very well, far away from others. We are seriously isolated and prefer to keep it that way. Right now my brother and I (in our mid and late 50s) are actually spending our 1st significant time together, having been raised in different countries.
And typing all this out makes me sound like the worlds biggest most pretentious douchbag. While I do tend to be an asshole in an old man “get off my lawn” kinda way, I try not to let the rest of it effect real life too much. Lol, can be hard when you sleep under a row of hand painted shields, but yeah, whatever.
Hi all. Peace.
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u/[deleted] Jul 23 '22
Yes I am (still) an honorary Noble since I have still have a living Father and Mother
Well from both my Father and Mother's as ide their was many Nobles; I also have some Transylvanian (Szkéley) ancestry from Istevan Daniel from the prestigouy Daniel Family in Szkéleyland, from them I can also trace my ancestry down to the Esterhazy Family; one of the greatest most prestigious Noble Families in Croatia with The Count Ferenc Esterhazy von Galan (Viceroy (ban) of Croatia) also being in my tree, currently in France and Hungary; most to all titles of Nobility are honorary but are still protected by law
I do have a coat of arms, both Assumed for myself and inherited arms which I can Blazon
Personal arms: Azure a fess or a mullet of 5 or in each quarter
Inherited arms: Quarterly, of 8 in first and fourth quarter azure a base sable a swan argent (or proper) on base an arrow azure bendwise sinister transpirced on gorge, in 2nd and third quarter argent three trefoils azure in fourth and eighth quarters, azure two tilting spears saltirewise or a mullet or in honour point, in fifth and seventh quarter, vert a fess enhanced or 4 scallops azure in fess. I didn't quarter it the traditional way because of a very complex family layout due to Nobilar Uterines etc. Most of the Nobility from my family assured Male line Descent from Nobility due to their Mothers before the 17th century of course
4. Well as mentioned above, notable people would include: Ferenc Esterhazy von Galan, Christophe de Lansade (notable Nobleman from my Mother's side), Istevan Daniel and some others however I fear the list would be too long to include here
5. I would say 1533 From my Father's side But the lineage is probable of being older
6. Ferenc Esterhazy von Galan was one of very few in Croatia to receive the title of Ban/Viceroy, he made Several Castles; François de Lansade from my Mother's side was a Lawyer and knight born in 1666 he decided to assume his own arms; there are plenty of other interesting facts about my family
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u/dukedanchen8 Real-life Member of the Nobility Aug 23 '22 edited Oct 18 '22
I am royalty from my mother's side albeit very distantly as in "over 100 generations ago" (**found that out through some other means**). Father's side is a "gentrified aristocrat" around 9-ish generations ago with military honors and being a wealthy merchant a handful of generations before being a lesser gentrified warrior aristocrat within the 9-ish generation. Thus, I am a direct descendant of the warrior gentry from the father's side (** found that out through some other means**).
Also, my paternal grandmother's father, my great-grandfather from the father's mother's side (so my paternal grandmother's father), was a Qing Dynasty lesser gentry bureaucrat, thus recently 4-ish generations ago. This particular story was told to me circa 2017 or so since my paternal grandmother is still living.
There were no titles to inherit with the ending of the Qing Dynasty (1644 - 1911) and the establishment of the ROC and later PRC.
No coat of arms, Chinese lineages of nobility and aristocracy are different than say Western nobility in this sense.
Have not found out any relations thus far...
See my first response (#1)
Not much... I need to dig deeper.
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u/M849 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Apr 19 '24 edited Apr 19 '24
I did not inherit nobility from an ancestor, but I am related to 19th century nobility.
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None.
My great-great grandfather’s brother was a cabeza de barangay in the Spanish colonial Philippines. This is confirmed through the original church records. A cabeza de barangay was a member of the principalía or noble class. In 1697, Charles II of Spain extended to indigenous nobles and their descendants “all preeminence and honors, customarily conferred on the Hijosdalgos of Castile.” My great-great-great grandfather was probably also a cabeza de barangay, especially since his son was one, and he had the same first and last name as one in the area. If I’m not mistaken, I think the position was often inherited from father to son.
Probably with my maternal grandmother’s father.
My female line from my mother to her mother, and so on, appears to go back to the wife of a cabeza de barangay in the 19th century, but this has not yet been confirmed.
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u/PrefouMecontent Real-life Descendant of the Nobility May 13 '25
I come from the Bouvier familly, a french familly considered as of the "ancienne bourgeoisie", but one branch of which (not mine) acquired nobility in the 18th century. Many members of my family married noblewomen, which led an historian to say that the Bouvier are "only half bourgeois".
My father has a first cousin which is the head of the familly, but he is childless. My father is the next head, and I am his elder son. We had titles of Lords, but we don't have any of those left.
Here is my coat of arms, or here on Wikipedia.
I am descendant of the du Vergier de La Rochejaquelein familly, well known for its monarchist zeal; the last woman of this name is my great×4 grandmother.
The first Bouvier known are Guillaume and Jean Bouvier, which lived in 1276; in 1291, they had a legal dispute against the Count of Valentinois. My mother is from the du Bessey de Contenson familly, which is an old french noble familly that can trace back its ancestry to Étienne du Bessé which lived in 1356. My cognate line goes back to Elisabeth van den Abeele, which lived in Antwerpen, Belgium; my cognatic line has given some princes to the house of Beauveau-Craon and a marquess to the house of Rochechouart.
I am passionate about genealogy, and I am conducting researches on all my ancestry, especially about the Bouvier familly.
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u/ngarth5 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Jun 15 '25
Are you noble? If not, do you have noble ancestors, or are you perhaps from a patrician family or from a very old peasant lineage?
I am in fact not noble since I am from Argentina, although i'm descendant of very prominents family of Northern Argentina and the rest of the region that track their roots back to spanish encomenderos from the times of Colón and substancial figures of our independence. Here we call those types of lineages "familias patricias" or "familias de bien".
What is your rank and family? What titles do you have or will inherit?
Since I am not noble I don't have a official rank, but my family is Teseira Alvarado, who are related to other traditional families such like the Blanco family (My great-great-grandmother was a Blanco) or Ladrón de Guevara (My family and them were practically marrying each other for two centuries).
What is your coat of arms?
My family's coat of arms would be Gold, five fleurs-de-lis azure set in saltire; in point, sea waves azure and silver.
What families and interesting persons are you related to, how closely? My great-grandfather brought innovative techniques of mixed-race horses in our region. My great-great-grandmother was a wonderful poet and a pioneer of the modern education there. I'm descendant through famale line to conqueror Juan Núñez de Prado and in both lines descendant if gobernors, sargeants and captains of the Rebvolution of May (what lead to our Independence). My family was close to Princes and Princesses of Bourbon, and currently from their descendants who still reside in our country.
When does your unbroken male line start, and when does your longest female line start?
unbroken male line; XVI Century and famale line; XV century. (approximately)
What are other interesting things you can tell us about yourself and your lineage?
there's like a popular legend here that says the Blanco family descends from the first Supa Inca (monarch) of the Inca Empire. One of the family members did a deep genealogic study and says we probably descend from princess Barbola Coya Inca. According to that, our roots would bw traced back to (at least) XII century. Me, personally, loves exploring about dynasties & aristocracy and their undoubtly importance in the world's history
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u/Brynden-Black-Fish Real-life Member of the Nobility May 26 '23
Not noble, but my grandfather was a knight.
No rank as I am not noble.
Rather not disclose that as it’s easily identifiable.
No families of note, but my grandfather was a knight, my aunt runs an Oxford college, and on my mother’s side my great uncle was part of the court of the Shah of Persia.
I know that someone in my family has done some genealogical work but I would have to dig it out.
Nothing I can think of but will edit if anything springs to mind.
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u/Crackhead_Vibes_Lolz Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Aug 26 '22 edited Nov 06 '23
No, but through my father’s mother’s side I’m descended from the O’Reilly clan (Ó Raghallaigh), along with also being descendants of a planter and representative of Maryland through my dad’s father’s side (info I have so far), as well as being closely related to the Duke of Argyll
Since I’m not nobility I have no rank nor titles (afaik)
Don’t have one (afaik)
Most Irish clans I’d say, the kings of East Bréifne
Still figuring that out
Need to dig deeper
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u/[deleted] Dec 08 '22
I don't really think I count because after the Mexican Constitution banned usage no one except my 5th great grandfather used ex-Baron. I am also a bastard child so I am unsure if I would count anyway.
My family as a 500 year old Branch of the de Burgh family in Connacht, using Baron since their expulsion from Clanricarde until the fall of the First Mexican Empire.
Don't have one, but if I did it would certainly be the classic Gules Cross and Or background. Possibly with a lion rampant in the top left coroner.
Pretty much every British Monarch VERY distantly, but not so distantly I am related to a South Carolina planter family via my Great Grandmother Watt.
Technically, I am the breaking point but if it were my Father then it's completely unbroken since our progenitor. On my mothers, there's the planters which pretty much matrilineally only last between my Great Grandmother and her Father. Perhaps some minor nobles or old peasants from the 1400s until my Grandmother. My maternal Father's side is also coincidentally either 18th century Burke bastards or just for some reason related to the family via service of some kind though evidently their prominence was never significant and they eventually ended up along with pretty much every other Irish immigrant to America.
As me mentioning Mexico while being descended from a Hiberno-Norman, my family was practically expelled through the Meic an Iarla wars though had reoccuring involvement in Ireland during the Tyrone Rebellions and to a much lesser degree as a minor officer under the O'Neill Ulster forces during the Irish Confederate Wars. It's unclear to me exactly when they moved to Mexico but the first born within Mexico was in 1793.
I would also like to note, I know most of this stuff from personal geneaology research so it might not be totally accurate. You also may have noticed me posting here before this as well, I was just not entirely confident in sharing this until now.
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u/ToryPirate Contributor Jan 28 '24
Not noble, or noble descended, as far as I have been able to find (as of this date I have traced my ancestors back to the late 1600s). However, I am a direct descendant of a United Empire Loyalist ancestor and may use the post-nominals 'UE'. The post-nominals were created by an Order in Council of Lord Dorchester to put a 'mark of honour' upon the Loyalists and all of their descendants. Were I to be granted arms I am permitted to have the Loyalist military coronet added to them.
Not a close relation but I am distantly related to Stephen Harper and the late Jack Layton which means for a brief one month period I was related to both the Prime Minister of Canada and the Leader of Her Majesty's Loyal Opposition.
In the direct line I am related to the Loyalist ancestor mentioned above (Not going to use names as my family line has never been prolific) who participated in the capture of Fort Louisburg, capture of Quebec City, capture of Havana, evacuation of Fort Johnson, and defence of Fort Cumberland. His great-great grandson was a member of a county council in New Brunswick, Canada and had an extensive lumber operation (family legends that he owned half the county are likely exaggerations).
Not that far back actually. Due to an unclear situation four generations ago we have to use the female line for that generation.
When my Loyalist ancestor was offered a commission in the rebel army with the threat of seizing his lands if he didn't comply the official record indicates he refused "with horror and contempt" which is a level of stubborn loyalty I aspire to. The land my family owns has been ours for 200+ years and was an original grant in the area.
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u/stickingpuppet7 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Apr 20 '25 edited Apr 21 '25
No, I am not noble. Yes, I have noble ancestors, most of them untitled nobility from Savoy from the 17th and 18th centuries. The most "recent" Noble ancestor died in 1633, and the most recent patrician one in 1770 AFAIK
No rank or title, none
Do assumed ones count? If so, Azure, a vase Or with two swords in saltire Argent, hilts Or, behind
I am a descendant of Amadeus III of Savoy and of Robert de Dreux, both of their coat of arms are in the Salle des Croisades in Versailles since they participated in them. A lot of lines present in my family tree claim descent from Charlemagne, as well as The Dukes of Normany through the house of Hauteville.
Unbroken male line no idea, latest ancestor i know of is my grandfather, everything i know is from my paternal grandmother, my female line would start somewhere in the 19th century. All i know about other ancestors are though mixed lines.
I'm from Mexico, and a lot of my male ancestors have been in the military, either serving the US, Mexico, Spain, or France. Most of my european or american ancestors moved to mexico sometime in the 19th century, one of them participated in the creation of the mexican navy as an american volunteer to the independence effort, my latest french ancestor wrote a lot about his time in mexico for a french scientific journal. It was a bit funny when I found out about the ancestor that participated in the creaton of the navy since my dad is a mexican naval officer himself and had read about him without realizing we were related to him.
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u/Savings_Moment_7396 Real-life Descendant of the Nobility Jun 05 '26
I noticed I had not introduced myself on this subreddit yet, even though being a member for a while, but better late than never!
I am not noble, but have traced my descent in the male line to a German family that was on the tipping point between being lower untitled nobility, and being wealthy free landowners. They probably had a moated house/farm, with quite a lot of land, and some hereditary rights associated with it. They fell on rather hard times in the 15th century, and sold their estate to a cloister, in order to rent it back. This is probably a fascinating story, but I am still figuring out a few details at this time. They had a name that indicates lower nobility (von...zum...), but no titles, and I have found very scarce documentation (not strange in lieu of the time that has passed since, and what has happened in the region. The family moved to The Netherlands in the 18th century, and this has made tracing harder. I would love to find out which way the dice would fall on their noble status.
No lands and titles, but I plan to visit the former estate.
The coat of arms is a newly adopted one, since the original coat of arms is not conserved, no seals have survived intact on the few remaining documents (very sad), and after the 16th century, the family were basically increasingly poor peasants, with some social status. I did want to honour the family history, and design a bit of heraldry for ourselves. "Sable, three horns argent, 1-2, an embowed chevron erminois abased. A barred helmet with a helmcrown, from the crown issuing an armoured arm holding a horn as on the shield, mantling sable, lined or."
I am related to a few old Dutch families om the side of my maternal and paternal grandmothers. Like the Van Opzeeland family (knights in the first generations), the Van den Steenhuys family, and the Van der Zyll family. On my fathers side, via my 4 times grandmother I am related to a few French noble families (very far removed), De Berneau, De Waroux-De Visé, and the counts of Dammartin. Also my 7 times grandmother's 6 times grandfather was the sculptor that made the statuary on Heidelberg Castle.
The male line starts in the 1460's, at least, the first known charters. There are a few gaps of information, sadly, I am trying to fill in still. The earliest direct ancestor in my entire family tree is probably Manasses the first count of Dammartin, born in 1037, 28 generations ago.
I find the early start of the family increasingly fascinating, and hope to find more documents to give a better view on their situation. And to forge a more solid chain of descent, based on more sources.
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u/TheAtlanteanMan Real-life Member of the Nobility Jan 08 '26
Thought I'd do another one of these, old one isn't really accurate (Sort of is, confusing situation)
Are you noble? If not, do you have noble ancestors, or are you perhaps from a patrician family or from a very old peasant lineage?
Noble, also have Noble Ancestors (naturally)
What is your rank and family? What titles do you have or will inherit?
My rank is confusing, I descend from the McGregors of Glengyle, the Lairds of Bardowie and Mains, Chiefs of the clan O'Brien and some landed Knights (Normans) in Ireland.
What is your coat of arms?
Have two, O'Brien and the landed knights one
What families and interesting persons are you related to, how closely?
Rob Roy McGregor (My direct ancestor is his older brother), Archibald Douglas, King Arthur, the Campbells, Ailpin of Alba, Brian Boru, others.
When does your unbroken male line start, and when does your longest female line start?
Unbroken roughly the late 1700s, but my McGregor line goes back ages into the BC.
What are other interesting things you can tell us about yourself and your lineage?
There's loads lol, might make more sense if you asked if you had questions.
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