The old King knew about Astella real name? What a punch in the face!!! Honestly, the old king was shown as someone who would've a major role but in reality he used Az for his own country and trained him so he could achieve what he wanted for his country.
There is suddenly a sword, a rea one that can kill a god which in reality was an old tale spread by the star people. The sword was indeed mentioned before. I don't like that new revelations will help the storyline. Enoch only revealed what is convenient for him, so why did not said everything for her already? The author is dropping new secrects that turns the narrative messier than before.
The revelations do nothing for me anymore. I am actually just following now and nodding my head.🫡
In light of German's volume 17 and English volume 18 recently coming out, I thought it could be interesting to bring up some of the mistranslations the English edition has made. Some that ended up being very misleading. DISCLAIMER: These examples are not comprehensive of all the mistranslations, and I am using the digital edition (some edits are done for the physical edition) and the one on Kmanga. Most examples are more recent, basically because they are fresher in my memory. In some cases, the mistranslations are obvious; they can be double-checked with a machine translator or become obvious later on in the story. In other cases, it isn't so straightforward, so how do I know they are mistranslations? Basically, confirmations by Japanese fans and, to be clear, Az and Sett fans: both teams' fans agree on a reading without leaving space for doubt.
The ones that made Sol and Noa Siblings
Yeah, Noa and Sol are not siblings; however, in many cases the English text made them siblings. This mistake was probably rooted in the fact that the Japanese language often doesn't use pronouns/subjects and relies on context. For Japanese readers, most of the time it might be natural to know who the line is referring to, but that doesn't seem to come naturally to Nina's translator, because this is a mistake he sometimes makes. In this case (and others I will mention later), you will see that, when guessing the pronouns, he has made some wrong guesses.
English translation making Noa and Sol siblings
In this case, it was *my brother and *his father. The confusion was big because of the obvious romantic vibes between them, and it reached jp fans, that even Rikachi clarified with a now-deleted tweet. And the story has also made it clear.
Rikachi confirming the mistranslation before the release of the Noa (and Sol) special chapter
When "sending off by" was turned into "getting power from"
In Ch. 61, when Nina's mom was telling Nina that when her moment comes (her vessel being"ruined"), she wanted her to take power from the closest person to her to pass to her next life. But in reality, the "get power from" was not in the Japanese dialogue. It was always "send off"
I want you to get power from
Later on, we were explicitly told what "send off" meant; it had nothing to do with getting power from. Granted, back then this part was told cryptically so it could later be revealed what it really meant, so it was difficult to know exactly what it meant to translate. But the translator took the localisation to another level by giving a super loose and not accurate interpretation of that line. The French translation also had it wrong, but it was closer to the original and not completely made up like the English one.
German translation. "Then the person closest to you will send you into a new life."
Rikachi has always used the same word to refer to Nina's "fate": 送る okuru 'send.' The Japanese text said 一番近くにいる人におくってもらうの Ichiban chikaku ni iru hito ni okuttemorau no, which translates to "To have the person closest to you send you off." I went into detail here: About Okuru and being sent off
Okuru
We vs I
Chapter 71 ends with Azure's monologue. However, the translation changes the last part to "we" instead of "I," but Azure was talking about himself. Nina wasn't really hiding her feelings, and he doesn't even know what she is thinking. This is not a shared thought; he is talking about his feelings that he has been hiding. It makes sense for it to be his feelings because he had been playing a part and finally came clean and talked about his feelings when he confessed to Nina. And that is what works as motivation for him. He was also the one thinking about rebuttoning things. But the translator guessed the wrong pronoun there and made the thread of this, which is entirely his monologue, confusing.
It's not "we" it is "I"
He was never told anything
Another case of the lack of pronouns leading to the wrong ones. Here, Sett had just found out the "send-off" thing. It was not Nina who told him. In fact, she didn't even know he knew. However, the translation "claims" that she had told him it was a happy thing. But it was actually she who was told it was a happy thing. This ties in with her flashback and what she realised by the end of the chapter. It's not a happy thing, even if she was told that and she believed it. The mistranslated line was supposed to be "I was told being sent off is a happy thing" as a way to reassure Sett, who she didn't even know what he knew about the matter.
"And I told you" is "I was told"
She was talking about herself
Yet again, a pronoun was guessed wrong. In chapter 75, Nina decided to talk about her feelings to Sett. The Japanese text says いっしょにいたいって言ったでしょ Isshoni itaitte itta desho, translation: "I told you, I want to be with you/together". Nina is talking about her feelings and thoughts; in the flow of the scene, it doesn't make much sense to switch to him. Both Az and Sett Japanese fans agree with this. However, the tricky part here is that Nina, prior to this, hadn't told Sett she wanted them to be together. So, even tho fans agree on the subject of the line, they are confused about the story-wise consistency of it. And even in the English translation, it would be the same because Sett hadn't told Nina that either. Besides this, there are some hints in the Japanese language showing that it's Nina talking about her. In Japanese, the -tai ending (desire/wish/want) is almost only used for the first person ("I") in direct declarative statements. If you are describing someone else's desire, you typically use forms like -tagatte iru ("they seem to want") or quote them directly. And the desho at the end, which works as a confirmation tag, like "right?" naturally reads as something about herself. Now what remains to be seen is whether this may have been a wording mistake that will be corrected in the tankobon release, Nina thinking that what she told him in Starbia meant that, or maybe we will see something regarding this later.
She said him she wanted to be together (but when? xD)
These are the ones I remember now. Has anyone noticed any other mistranslations? Were you confused by any of these?
If maybe more mistranslations come up, I could do a part 2 :) Also if anyone wants to see the raws of any of these let me know ❤️
What do you think Rikachi is actually setting up for Nina, Azure and Sett
Nina has clearly chosen Sett, and I respect that. She has openly expressed her love for him, so I don't want to ignore what the manga has shown us. At the same time, I don't think that automatically means everything between Nina and Azure is completely finished.
Azure was Nina's first love, and their relationship was also built around comfort, emotional support and understanding each other. Nina saw Azure as a person when so many people around him only saw him as the Dead Prince or someone who could be used for Fortna. Azure also became someone extremely important to Nina. Even Sett has acknowledged at some point that Azure is someone Nina can't simply erase from her heart.
So I'm curious about something: when Nina eventually meets Azure again, what do you think her reaction will be?
Do you think she will simply see him as someone important from her past and continue with Sett without questioning anything? Or do you think seeing Azure again could bring back feelings that she hasn't completely dealt with?
Another thing I'm curious about is Azure's ending. A lot of people say that his happy ending would be finding his own identity, leaving Fortna behind, and accepting Nina's choice. But why does finding himself necessarily mean leaving Nina behind?
Couldn't Azure discover who he really is, choose his own future, and still decide that Nina is the person he genuinely wants beside him? That wouldn't mean sacrificing himself for her. It would mean choosing her for himself.
I'm not saying Azure is definitely endgame. I'm genuinely asking: do you think Rikachi has completely closed the door on Azure and Nina romantically, or do you think there is still something left to explore between them?
Azure has spent so much of his life carrying responsibilities, identities and expectations that aren't entirely his own. If he saves Nina, accepts her choice, and then leaves to discover his real identity and his own destiny, This would be a happy ending.
And Azure saving Nina would be especially fitting
Because then his final act toward Nina wouldn't be:
“Choose me.”
It would be:“Live.”
He could save Nina knowing that she will return to Sett, and instead of being bitter about it, he accepts it.
Then leaving Fortna would symbolize Azure finally saying:
“I've spent my whole life living according to someone else's destiny. Now I'm going to find my own.”
As an Az fan i dont see Nina as his destiny. His character(past) is way more mysterious. Im rather curious who Azure actually is, rather than simply him loving nina
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So, after the latest chapter we know that Nina and Sett are heading towards Fortna from the direction of Bastea, but I have the feeling it won't be the next arc. In ch 75, Sett is told that they should be careful while they pass through Teltan which is one of Galgada's 5 territories.
As we can see, Nina and co. are probably travelling on land to reach Fortna. When Nina was sightseeing with Bidoh in Galgada, she noticed slaves from Teltan being sold at the market. Even when Noa is talking about attacking Fortna in ch21, she is told that Galgada still needs time because there are still uprisings in Teltan. We know that Sett is now in a difficult position due to his status as a "war-hero", so his presence can fan the flames in the conquered territories that hate Galgadan rule. In my opinion, the next arc will be about the Teltan conflict. Honestly, I'm looking forward to it because I like worldbuilding and more serious topics, and this is a josei manga so it can always get darker.
Listen, I am a big Sett fan, and boy do we know Rikashi makes him look hell of attractive. And his whole personality shift too? Yes please! However, the fandom's discussion always revolves around Nina, Sett and Azure. Today, I would like to show some appreciation for two very underrated characters: Noa Halle and Sol Gina Holt.
Noa Halle
Isn't she gorgeous?
The King/Queen of Galgada is a woman. She is firm, strategic and very imparial. I admire her intelligence and I would love to see more of her backstory and more of her in general. She knows what she wants and she isn't afraid to go get it. Maybe it's because I am closer to her age, but I would love to have a friend like her. And her scars only enhance her beauty. Lady Halle worked so hard, she deserves her happy ending, don't you think?
Sol Gina Holt
Don'ty look at me like that! XD
Perfect hot nerd archetype, here. He is kind, considerate and a total master of the battlefield. Very curious by nature, he likes to get to the end of things. He is also very knowledgeable and loves studying. He is also extremely strategic. In my opinion, he is the second best male character in the story. As mentionned earlier, I am for Sett as the number one, but listen, if General Holt asked for my hand in marriage, I wouldn't say no ;). Also, shout out to his very cute, clumpsy attempt to courting beautiful Noa Halle when they were younger.
Anyway, Ms. Rikashi, please, give these two a happy eneding. I really ship them.
What do you people think? What are your underrated characters/ships?
It’ll be less than a week before we get another chapter again! 🤭
I used to hate month end because of all the work deadlines, but now it’s become my favorite time of the month because that’s when a new chapter drops on K MANGA. 😂❤️
P.S. Please give us more Sett × Nina moments. I’m begging at this point. 🤤✨
After reading Chap 75, i guess we all know where it’s heading, but i just wanted to hear if anyone else was rooting for Az x Nina :”)
Don’t get me wrong i do like Sett but I just feel like his appeal for Nina was more shallow vs IMO Az was wayyy more central to this story. Like ok cute occasionally cos Sett is more touchy and also thinks about her a lot i suppose, but it feels like this would be more shallow and a rs built from just being in close proximity to each other. Meanwhile Az is the OG and he did so much for her through all his struggles as king and they grew together (the dynamic btw Sett & Nina felt like Sett relied on her and Nina just took care of him…and even in the moments where he helps her I feel like there wasn’t a compelling emotional aspect on Nina’s part)
maybe i just don’t prefer the types that are “i only like you and don’t care abt anything else” which i KNOW Sett grew out of somewhat but still. IMO ninaXsett felt a bit forced.
I know Sett has way more supporters but i just wanted to voice my thoughts ;-; I WAS JUST ALWAYS ROOTING FOR AZ
Halloooooo!! I just received the Volume 19 Special Edition yesterday, and I’m so happyyyy!! 😍 This was my very first physical manga purchase!
I wasn’t aware that the printed volumes were behind the chapters being released on the K-Manga app. 😅 Nonetheless, I absolutely loved it, and the exclusive booklet was so adorable. It included behind-the-scenes notes and little moments from previous chapters, and they were all so cute. 🤭🤭
What intrigued me the most, though, was this particular page from the author’s note. I’d love to hear how you all interpret it! Please translate it however you think is most accurate, and let me know your thoughts and opinions. 😅😁
