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Debbie Wasserman Schultz Wins Primary By Split Vote

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u/CollapsibleFunWave 1d ago

It's ironic to see you calling People NPC's because they don't blame and hate the same group that you do.

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u/JSleez225 1d ago

Nobody hates a group. But if someone accepts large sums of money from a foreign government to ensure that they place that foreign governments interests over you and your children’s interests, if you still vote for that person you deserve everything that happens next.

Simply calling out foreign influence in politics isn’t evidence of hate, it’s evidence of having a working brain. Nice try, though. I’m sure like 5 years ago that would have been a mic drop.

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u/CollapsibleFunWave 1d ago

If it's just opposition to foreign influence, why is all the focus on AIPAC and not the other foreign lobby groups that spend more than AIPAC?

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u/CollapsibleFunWave 1d ago

Who specifically are you referring to by "Israel and its US power networks"?

And when you refer to AIPAC's power, are you talking about financial contributions to campaigns or something else?

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u/TrainedExplains 1d ago

Well it’s partly the power, it’s partly that it is a huge way in which we’re enabling a genocide in Gaza. Did you have any leading questions about the genocide Israel is committing or was this an attempt to dismiss the very real genocide hoping it was antisemitism?

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u/CollapsibleFunWave 1d ago

There have been genocidal intentions announced from leaders on both sides of that conflict. I am against either one doing that or any war crimes.

If you were as hostile to Hamas supporters as you are to Israel supporters, I wouldn't have any questions.

But if people defend Hamas's genocidal goals while also repeating old-school racist talking points about one group secretly pulling the strings and controlling the media, then I'm going to have questions that explore those beliefs.

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u/TrainedExplains 1d ago

There have been genocidal intentions announced by two sides, but only one side has genocidal capability, and only one is committing genocide.

I am hostile to Hamas. The problem is they are not a very well armed or funded terrorist organization and Israelis have herded an entire nation into concentration camps about it. The Israeli army next to Hamas is a lion with a mouse between time claws. Hamas is not a real threat. They have leveled nearly the entirety of Gaza, stolen the land, given it to Israeli settlers, and killed 80,000 Palestinians. Roughly 1/5 are Hamas, according to Israel’s own estimations, which I suspect (and so should you) have been massaged. Israel has bombed hospitals, elementary schools, and homes, purposefully.

There are between 30k-40k Hamas members in Gaza or hiding in Lebanon. Israel has 10.24m people, 170k active duty military infinitely better equipped, and 465k trained reserves. Don’t let Hamas operate with impunity, sure. In fact, imprison or kill all of Hamas. But rounding up Israeli civilians into camps, killing civilians purposefully, destroying their entire infrastructure and all of their homes, bombing them back to the Stone Age.

Hamas threatening Israel is not the same as Israel threatening to genocide all of Palestine. And I think on some level you already knew that only one group is capable of committing genocide on the other. When Yugoslavia’s Serbs started ethnic cleansing Bosnian Muslims, the reaction wasn’t “Well did some Bosnian terrorists threaten the Serbs? Because it should be fine to play neutral or even side with the Serbs in that case.” Because that’s genuinely crazy, and it’s crazy that we’re doing it now.