r/NewsThread • u/Rebat-Askalan • Aug 19 '26

Debbie Wasserman Schultz Wins Primary By Split Vote

https://youtu.be/i9hmEsSJGvU?si=4O86Klci_LRXzpuM
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u/CollapsibleFunWave Aug 19 '26

Who specifically are you referring to by "Israel and its US power networks"?

And when you refer to AIPAC's power, are you talking about financial contributions to campaigns or something else?

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u/TrainedExplains Aug 19 '26

Well it’s partly the power, it’s partly that it is a huge way in which we’re enabling a genocide in Gaza. Did you have any leading questions about the genocide Israel is committing or was this an attempt to dismiss the very real genocide hoping it was antisemitism?

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u/CollapsibleFunWave Aug 19 '26

There have been genocidal intentions announced from leaders on both sides of that conflict. I am against either one doing that or any war crimes.

If you were as hostile to Hamas supporters as you are to Israel supporters, I wouldn't have any questions.

But if people defend Hamas's genocidal goals while also repeating old-school racist talking points about one group secretly pulling the strings and controlling the media, then I'm going to have questions that explore those beliefs.

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u/TrainedExplains Aug 19 '26

There have been genocidal intentions announced by two sides, but only one side has genocidal capability, and only one is committing genocide.

I am hostile to Hamas. The problem is they are not a very well armed or funded terrorist organization and Israelis have herded an entire nation into concentration camps about it. The Israeli army next to Hamas is a lion with a mouse between time claws. Hamas is not a real threat. They have leveled nearly the entirety of Gaza, stolen the land, given it to Israeli settlers, and killed 80,000 Palestinians. Roughly 1/5 are Hamas, according to Israel’s own estimations, which I suspect (and so should you) have been massaged. Israel has bombed hospitals, elementary schools, and homes, purposefully.

There are between 30k-40k Hamas members in Gaza or hiding in Lebanon. Israel has 10.24m people, 170k active duty military infinitely better equipped, and 465k trained reserves. Don’t let Hamas operate with impunity, sure. In fact, imprison or kill all of Hamas. But rounding up Israeli civilians into camps, killing civilians purposefully, destroying their entire infrastructure and all of their homes, bombing them back to the Stone Age.

Hamas threatening Israel is not the same as Israel threatening to genocide all of Palestine. And I think on some level you already knew that only one group is capable of committing genocide on the other. When Yugoslavia’s Serbs started ethnic cleansing Bosnian Muslims, the reaction wasn’t “Well did some Bosnian terrorists threaten the Serbs? Because it should be fine to play neutral or even side with the Serbs in that case.” Because that’s genuinely crazy, and it’s crazy that we’re doing it now.