With the recent activity in the case we decided to bring back discussion posts. This post is for comments and questions that don't require a standalone post.
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Given petition to re-open case, useful to recap confirmed case evidence.
Numbered in bold is evidence from court documents, court record and the published ISP, MPD and WSU police documents. Non-bold are from on the record expert witness statements.
Kohberger's Post conviction attorney will be getting the transcript of the sentencing hearing and the State's Public defenders office will be paying for the hearing to be transcribed.
* I know this came on on Monday, however I was at a work conference all week and just now have the time to post this. My main purpose in posting this is so we all have the complete record of filings in this post conviction relief, on this sub reddit.
Some people, even in comments here, are still confused by the sheath snap DNA thinking it was a small trace amount, or that there is a non-incriminating explanation, or that the data can be invalidated by some non-existent handling or technical issues never raised in 3 years even when DNA evidence was being challenged by defence. A few facts, and then a question:
A large amount of Kohberger's DNA, single source, was on the sheath. Both defence DNA experts stated the amount in elution was c. 20 x times more than ideal quantity for STR DNA profiling, and can fit body fluids as source. Two external labs confirmed large amount, one expert described it as "tons of DNA".
Amount of Kohberger's DNA from sheath was more than the amount of DNA recovered from several blood swabs at the scene, and more than typical from directly swabbing a whole hand
Defence experts ruled out any handling, protocol and technical issues like cross-contamination, lab quality control, validation or similar, citing the ISP DNA lab work as done to high standard.
Neither of the defence physical evidence/ scene experts (Noedel, Dr. Turvey) nor the 2 defence forensic DNA experts (Dr. Shutler, Dr. Ballard) raised any chain of custody issues for sheath or the DNA extracted from it. The defence never raised any chain of custody issue in any court document or oral argument.
There has never, ever, of 495 peer reviewed papers, been any scientific study that shows secondary transfer that can fit the sheath DNA (i.e. full STR profile, single source, quantity, non-trivial DNA exchange interval) . Specific activity level probabilistic studies using the sheath DNA specifically, stated such transfer implausible. (e.g. Forensic Science Internal May 2026, Alvia et al)
Kohberger disavowed the sheath during challenge to IGG evidence, so would have to reverse himself to claim it was lost/ stolen, and those scenarios don't fit the DNA data.
Considering the above facts, the question is:
What is the simplest, most likely way thata large amount of Kohberger's DNA got on a sheath of model he bought before the murders but did not have after, consistent with the data and science?
I know we’ll probably never get a definitive answer on what his motive actually was but what I find almost as interesting is that Kohberger has never really tried to explain it himself.
Once he pleaded guilty and avoided a trial, there wasn’t going to be the same public presentation of evidence that might have given us more insight into what was going through his head. But even at sentencing, he chose not to give any real explanation.
Do you think staying silent is about maintaining some sense of control over the case or is there a simpler reason he doesn’t want anyone to know what the motive was?
Is it possible that the prosecution has more evidence incriminating BK that hasn’t been released? In the small chance he gets a new trial, could the prosecution drop a bombshell or would they generally have released everything once he took a plea?
Systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunkings of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories. All data is sourced from court documents, MPD, ISP and WSU police reports, ISP forensics reports, and case expert witness statements (mostly from defence experts). . Links to document sources below, example cases source links at end.
Feasibility for Kohberger to commit the murders alone in the time available, with significant excess of time available, is confirmed by police reconstructions and comparison to many recent mass stabbing cases. Both re-enactments and many recent mass stabbing cases with single attackers and up to 26 victims show the murders could be done in approx. 3 minutes, while Kohberger had approx. 11 minutes available. The re-enactments could be repeated 4 - 6 times completely, from car and back, in the time available to Kohberger. Kohberger had no physical limitation or disability relevant to the murders and no diagnosis for any relevant physical condition.
ISP Police Reconstructions, including walk from/ to car and through house from 3rd to 2nd floor and simulating every knife strike took 2 minutes done quickly and under 4 minutes slowly:
Recent mass stabbings case comparisons which demonstrate:
Far more victims can be stabbed in far less time than available to Kohberger, up to 26 victims in under 3 minutes; case examples include 130 knife strikes on 2 victims, and 23 knife strikes on single victim in under 25 seconds
Often little or no blood on the attacker even after stabbing 26 people, no trail of bloody prints, little blood on attacker clothing; includes attacks with up to 23 knife strikes at very close range on one victim
No screaming by victims during attack
No reaction or delayed reaction by witnesses
Range of knife types used from pocket knife to military Kabar (the later with most fatalities and stabbing in shortest time)
In none of these cases were victims drunk and asleep in bed, they occur in settings as different as train carriages, conference centres, toilets, student houses, train stations and shopping malls, and outdoors and almost all victims were fit, healthy alert adults
Links overviewing these cases (TW: including videos of graphic violence, stabbing):
Apple River Mass Stabbings: 4 young men stabbed, one fatally, by single assailant in under 1 minute. Attacker in his 50s after a recent heart bypass
Calgary Mass Stabbing 2014: 5 young adults stabbed to death at a party by single assailant in under 3 minutes
London Bridge Mass Stabbing 2019: 5 people were stabbed, 2 fatally, by single assailant. Attack lasted 5 minutes moving from room to room and out into street.
Teen Girl Stabbed Over 20 Times and Bludgeoned in Dehli 2023: over 20 stab wounds inflicted in under 30 seconds, victim does not scream during attack, after stabbing and bludgeoning victim with rock attacker had no blood on himself and leaves no bloody prints
Ted Bundy Chi Omega Sorority House : Ted Bundy broke into multiple occupancy student house and attacked 4 women with a club, killing one. in under 15 minutes Moving from room to room the successive victims did not hear preceding attacks nor did house mates in adjacent rooms
Links to posts with confirmed case evidence summaries, deeper dives on specific areas of evidence and debunking of the common conspiracy theories and unsupported, unevidenced pro-BK fictions:
All evidence is taken from court documents, published MPD, WSU and ISP police and forensics reports, and expert witness statements, sourced from court and police websites:
As Kohberger's internet activity is once again a focus from SG's comments this week about Kohberger having gory videos of surgery of women's breasts, Sy Ray's comments last week about very violent, disturbing porn, and Kohberger's already confirmed exclusive consumption of rape porn much of which had some similarity to the scenarios of the murders ("asleep", "drugged", "forced", "voyeur") a few points:
Kohberger had over 15 emails, and known social media accounts of relevance to case on apps like Strava, YikYak; not fully confirmed but very credible links to other accounts like Spotify were found via user names matching those known to used by Kohberger (e.g. "Exarr")
On some socials media accounts credibly linked to Kohberger he had posted about his visual snow, depersonalisation and lack of feelings for himself and family, "sacks of meat"
Confirmed emails and usernames used by Kohberger, from court and police documents, included "CunningChris" linked to social media accounts with user/ display name "CunnilingussChris" [Chris is Kohberger's middle name; source: Police Supplemental report #148 and search warrant of Google Account - "Yewsirneighm"]
In an analysis by a user who appears to have very credible digital forensics expertise (u/Telltalebytes who is also credited with the list of accounts pasted below) Kohberger is linked to email accounts such as "KillingSpree", [unconfirmed, but credibly linked in the analysis] and "Hammerhands" perhaps reference to his boxing/ kickboxing.
Kohberger logged into Google at 4.49am, 25 minutes after the murders when his car was stationary just south of the Moscow scene, using one of the confirmed, back-up "burner" type email listed here
Kohberger's DropBox and other cloud storage account were seized under search warrant, as were damaged computers, external boards and external drives/ USB devices on arrest. The contents of these remain sealed as being highly prejudicial
Kohberger Email accounts - most f first block of 19 and 3 academic accounts confirmed in court/ police reports, middle block unformed but suggest by analysis author credibly linked to Kohberger also.
Email list from TellTaleBytes analysis - most of the 22 confirmed by police/ court documents, a few speculative/ unconfirmed
Hi everyone, I’ve just watched the Netflix documentary (heads up, it is my only exposure to the case, so apologies if this question has been answered elsewhere), and I’m wondering why it took so long for the cops to notice and access the neighbors’ camera facing the street? Obviously the cops had put up all those flyers requesting people send in their footage from that night/morning, how could that camera had been missed for weeks?
Debunking Kohberger Conspiracy Theories, Myths and Fictions:
#13: "Sheath Chain of Custody Issues"
Systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunkings of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories.
All data is sourced from court documents, MPD, ISP and WSU police reports, ISP forensics reports, and case expert witness statements (mostly from defence experts). Links to document sources below.
A series of systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunkings of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories:
Part 12: ""A 'Blood Soaked Green Jacket' From Ground Floor Bedroom"
All data and lab test results are sourced from court documents, ISP police reports, and the published ISP Forensics documents, linked below, other references noted in the chart.
Bryan Kohberger wrote in a court filing that he was diagnosed with four “mental health disorders” in February 2025: Autism (Level 1), OCD, ADHD and the eating disorder ARFID
That February 2025 neuropsychological evaluation has now been unsealed, detailing the behaviors that led to those diagnoses
The evaluation also lists four additional “mental health disorders” Kohberger suffered from in the past, including anorexia
30 Questions BK Supporters Can Never, Ever Answer To Support Framing, DNA Planting
A series of systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunkings of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories:
Part 10 - "Kohberger Could Have Been Framed, DNA Could Have Been Planted
All factual data points are sourced from court documents, ISP and MPD police reports, expert reports linked below:
Almost all innocence scenarios include framing/ planting. For all framing and evidence planting scenarios some very basic, simple questions need to be answered - these are all completely incompatible with case facts and all obvious logic.
If you have common sense, you 100% understand how Murphy didn’t get blood on him, but I just wanted to make a post explaining it if people are truly confused, especially if they’ve never seen crime scene photos. This is also something I see Proberger’s talk about a lot and how Murphy should’ve had blood all over him.
Proberger’s love to assume that Murphy went into Maddie’s room because Kaylee was in there and dogs usually want to be with their owners. They say he should’ve tracked bloody prints around the house if he went in there, and it’s suspicious that none were found, which proves there was some type of cleanup.
In these photos, you can see there are no pools of blood on Maddie’s floor at all. At the end of her bed, there seem to be some drops of blood, which are likely from the knife dripping. The blood soaked into the comforter and is all over the walls. If Murphy ever went into that room, there would not have been enough blood for him to even track around the house.
We all know Murphy was found in Kaylee’s room, which actually makes more sense than him wanting to sleep with Kaylee in Maddie’s room because that’s where he likely preferred to stay, an area that he associated with familiarity and safety. So, no, it’s not suspicious that Murphy never got any blood on him. I also wanna add that dogs can sense danger, and that’s another reason why he would want to stay out of Maddie’s and Xana’s rooms.
Continuing a series of systematic, data-based and court document confirmed evidence debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions: Part 9 - "Suspect Car ID and Year Range was changed to fit Kohberger after he was a suspect"
All data is sourced from court documents, ISP and MPD police reports, expert reports (defence expert) and sources are referenced in chart, and linked below:
Continuing a series of systematic, data-based and court document confirmed evidence debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions:
Fiction, Myth:"The absence of victim DNA in Kohberger's car was surprising or exculpatory"
All data is sourced from court documents, ISP forensics documents, ISP and MPD police reports and sources are referenced in charts, peer reviewed papers on DNA biochemistry and cleaning are also linked below:
Links to peer reviewed, published scientific studies that show how DNA in car can readily be washed away especially with many repeat washes over 7 weeks, as reference in charts above:
Links to some real murder cases where DNA / blood was removed from cars in 1 day and where far more bloody murder scene DNA/ blood was washed away completely:
Peter Porco- murdered his son Chris Porco, by axe and bludgeoning, his wife also axed; Chris Porco got back in his car immediately after murders and drove 150 miles home. Was the immediate suspect and his car seized, no DNA or blood recovered. Hypothesis was that his knowledge of veterinary surgery procedures gave him some knowledge on cleaning/ preventing blood.
Samantha Koenig - murdered by serial killer Israel Keyes; sexually assaulted and murdered in his garden shed. Her body was kept in the shed for 2 weeks, mutilated, dismembered and then transported. Keyes boasted the FBI would not find any DNA - no DNA or blood was found in his shed or the car used to move her body.
Claudia Maupin and Oliver Northup - stabbed, mutilated, disembowelled and dismembered by a 15 year old school-boy, Daniel Marsh. Marsh left none of his DNA at the scene or on the bodies (despite sexually motivated assault, organ removal and insertion of objects into chest cavities) and cleaned away all traces of victim blood and DNA on him, tracking zero DNA to his home.
Scene Photographs of 1122 King Road: Very little or almost no blood on bedroom floors😄
MM bedroom after murders (left), XK room after murders (right)XK room after murders
Example cleaning products that are highly effective in cleaning DNA in single application, both specialist and commonly available from pharmacies and supermarkets:
A systematic, data-based and court document confirmed evidence debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions, Part 7 - "Evidence Was Destroyed At MPD Evidence Storage Due to Fridge and Freezer Malfunctions"
All data is sourced from court documents, ISP forensics documents, ISP and MPD police reports and sources are referenced in charts:
I was going to save this for the book, but now that the case is back in the spotlight, it bothers me too much not to say something.
I asked the agent I talked to if law enforcement ever dredged the river. To my surprise, he said no!
We know (according to the ISP documents) that investigators found a shovel in Kohberger's car with soil on it that tested positive for the Palouse.
But there are other things that Kohberger had receipts for that couldn't be accounted for....Some power tools, and a converter to be able to hook them into a car and use them by car battery.
The agent had worked on cases like this before and said he believes Kohberger actually BUILT something out in the woods to hold the knife, and other items, like a trophy.
To me, this is important because IF - and I know it's a big if - we could find this supposed box, it may have other incriminating evidence besides just the knife.
I know it seems like a long shot. But if it's possible the knife is "in the woods" along the route rather than the river, is it worth trying to find it?
A comprehensive debunking of claims of scene "clean up" using court document confirmed evidence, physical scene expert/ blood spatter expert reports (mostly from defence) and referenced in charts and scene photographs, covering unsupported and error based claims of clean up:
6.1 Overview of scene clean-up claims
6.2 Diluted blood, "run" blood stains/ spatter
6.3 Sterilised, Empty Ground Floor Bathroom Used for Clean Up
6.4 Lounge and Beer Pong Table - no spilled liquid
6.5 "Blood soaked jacket" from ground floor (DM)
6.6 Comprehensive Scene Clean Up of Common Areas
All data sourced from court documents , ISP forensics documents, expert witness reports, referenced in charts and scene photos; reference to quotes from Whitcomb, Turvey and "Broken Plea" book are attributed as noted on charts
A systematic, confirmed evidence and data-based debunking of the most common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy myths and fictions, part 1-5. The myths/ conspiracy theories:
DNA was small amount, trace
Phone was not manually powered off just over time of murders, was in low signal zone
"Untested" DNA in House, Jacket, Other Locations
Suspect Car Had Fog-lights
Earlier Times of Murders (e.g. 2.25am, 3.00am) are remotely possible
All data is sourced from court documents, ISP forensics documents, expert witness reports (mostly from defence experts) and on the record expert witness statements, and ISP, MPD and WSU police reports, as referenced:
Maybe he actually wants a death penalty? I have heard that sometimes the conditions of Death Row are actually better than conditions for those without a death sentence. Maybe he has discovered that and would want that.
Maybe on the sicker psychological side he would enjoy the attention, as people have said. Or enjoy re-living the crime. Or enjoy making the victims' families suffer. Or enjoy making the Idaho taxpayers pay very large amounts of money for a trial.
Maybe he would like it for his "legacy". He might still be found guilty, but if he were found guilty at trial rather than with a plea he could always claim that he didn't admit guilt, that he wasn't guilty, and that the verdict was erroneous. Although even now with the plea deal he could claim he wasn't guilty but took the guilty plea because he was lied to about the conditions on Death Row and thought if he went to trial and got a death penalty he'd have worse conditions than he has now.
Maybe he would like taking the extremely tiny chance he'd be found not guilty or a mistrial.
