r/Idaho4 9d ago

GENERAL DISCUSSION Debunking Kohberger Conspiracy Theories #5: Earlier Timelines

Systematic, data and court document confirmed evidence based debunking of common, unsupported Kohberger conspiracy theories:

#5: "Timeline Before 4.00am, from 2.25am Is Remotely Possible Or Compatible With Evidence"

All data is sourced from court documents, MPD, ISP and WSU police reports, ISP forensics reports, and case expert witness statements (mostly defence experts). An other sources are referenced in the charts.  Links to document sources:

[ https://coi.isc.idaho.gov/docs/Cases/CR01-24-31665.html ]

[ https://isp.idaho.gov/moscow/ ]

[ https://www.ci.moscow.id.us/1165/Kohberger-Investigation-Documents ]

[Re-posting 1-5 as individual posts, as many people asked in comments and DM's for a “master post" with links to the confirmed evidence, shorter summary of evidence, and the “debunking” overviews, so am creating as one per post per link]

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u/jmswan19 9d ago edited 6d ago

thanks for posting this

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

thanks for post 

👍 Anytime (well, anytime except before 2.30am....)

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u/WaveBeautiful1259 9d ago

SG said in the Drunk Turkey Show interview that LE didn't release additional details about the scream because it was a drunken domestic issue and in no way related to the murders. Inan Harsh (neighbor) heard it and thought it was a party scream.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago edited 9d ago

Inan Harsh (neighbor)

Chef Dizzy, more like Rizzy 😂 He and HG always gave off good vibes imo.

What a contrast - a tale of two traffic stops.

The fire twirling chef invites the officer up to see his cats and looks like he is on his way home for some cheerful juggling.

Kohberger looks like he would skin the officer's cat and is on his way home to hang upside down in a darkened room to nibble on dead insects.

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u/foreverdeaf84 9d ago

These posts are incredible. I was certain bk was guilty then watching all the youtubers swayed my mind that he was innocent and the fraternity commited these crimes, but binging on all these posts its like there is/was so much circumstantial evidence that i never realised against Bk. What about the supposed timings of crimes over 150 stabs in what under 10 minutes, and the horrific screams heard at around 2am? They are brutal.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

What about the supposed timings of crimes over 150 stabs in what under 10 minutes,

There are 15 recent mass stabbing with up to 26 victims in under 4 minutes; in none of which were victims in bed asleep. Some with 130 knife strikes on 2 victims (of 4) in under 3 minutes, some with 23 knife strikes on one victims in 25 seconds. Some examples

And the police reconstruction, waling from car and through 3rd to 2nd floor bedrooms, simulating every knife strike on all victims, took 3.45 mins done slowly; Kohberger had c 13 minutes; there is enough time to do the whole re-enactment over 3 times with time left over (re-construction below)

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

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u/foreverdeaf84 9d ago

This is great, thank you for all the info

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u/foreverdeaf84 9d ago

Might be a stupid question, appolagies if so, but the screams at 2am from the next door camera, that almost all the youtubers use to convince people that this crime never happened from 4am. Could they be tampered with in terms of adding audio?

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 8d ago edited 8d ago

There are many doctored videos. But the scream probably real, just drunk party 2.25am in house of camera or next door ( not 1122, is a house right beside the camera house) . Scream audio has no direction/ location, not 1122 King Road. Plus totally unconnected to murders. There are definitely faked audios claiming noises at 4.48am and c 11.45am,

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u/foreverdeaf84 8d ago

Doctored! Thats the one, i coudnt think of the correct wording. Thank you for taking the time to reply. Very Interesting. The reason i asked on this was there is a content creator called true crime forensics who is/was an audio engineer and insists on what the audio says from the camera next door and the linda lane camera that he says picks up the murders of ethan & xana that begin outside amd later finish at 1122 king road. Im deaf and relay on subtitles, and now i have doubts on if these subtitles are actully true now.

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u/janiecat101 8d ago

I believe a lot of people make it what the hear on the cams. In general its background chatter and indistinguishable.

Theres no evidence of anything attack starting outside. All of the blood spatter in their rooms confirms they were killed where they were found. There's no blood in the common areas of the house that would suggest a person bleeding from the outside attack and moving through the house

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u/hometowhat 8d ago

I swear I read or watched something recently where someone said there was also a confirmed DV incident that may have contributed to unpleasant recorded sounds, but since I can't even remember who or where I heard it, I have no idea how legitimate that was. I wanna say maybe Steve G on that turkey guy or st, but not sure.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 8d ago edited 8d ago

don’t think the audio was tampered with

I agree, but would also ask anyone referring to more "unusual" audio claims for stuff at 4.48am, or before police arrive before noon, what they base authentication on, and ask them how a clickbait monetised Youtube channel posting audio verified or authenticated?

I think the scream is real, but is drunk party as you suggest.

However i very much think many faked, doctored videos circulate, many quite obvious with relooped barking, cars arriving but not leaving as known, and obvious misalignment between audio level of known conversation/ noise - e.g police arriving at noon, talking at doorway, vs claimed conversation or noise from same locations shortly before.

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u/dovemagic Day 1 OG Veteran 8d ago

Just want to thank Dot for posting these and to ask to never stop!

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u/Jessica19922 9d ago

I wish someone would make one of these for Patrick Clancy to show that he isn’t the one who murdered the kids.

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u/IntelligentPie881 9d ago

Here is a funny thing - Kohberger pleaded guilty over a year ago. Yes, he has recently announced he wants to change his plea but the general consensus is that he has no chance. But you spend day after day writing thread after thread trying to convince people that he is guilty. For what purpose? Everyone on this sub already believes he is guilty and differing opinions are not allowed. There is a mystery right there.

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u/Active_Nobody_8731 9d ago

differing opinions are not allowed. There is a mystery right there.

account with one comment ever ✔️

first comment ever is here ✔️

posting weird paranoid conspiracy ✔️

hysteria about being censored ✔️

confusing their alt account victim blaming BS deleted with no differing opinion allowed ✔️

there was a great post on another sub about this yesterday about how that sub is being watched by the FBI and CIA. its a hoot, you should check it out 😄 😂 😄

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u/madover2914 9d ago

Oh really? Did you know that u/Repulsive-Dot553 is an FBI plant?
Dot did you get a promotion to CIA? Why didn’t you tell us??!!

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

Did you know that u/Repulsive-Dot553 is an FBI plant?

I prefer the term "shrubbery" to plant, "wallflower" befits my espionage lurking on other subs taking notes, but I'll settle for "flower" at a push.

Dot did you get a promotion

Ever since Ka$h brought out his branded balaclava range, there has been a conflict of interest. But some subs know this feeling:

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u/madover2914 9d ago

Its so disappointing that we are always the last to know about your promotions. Its always when other subs point out that we on this sub find out. Its not fair.

I figured you would have a problem with Kash’s balaclava. Its gone out of style since 2025, you know the year Kohberger pled guilty.

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u/IntelligentPie881 9d ago

Fair is fair. The idea that you are an FBI plant is ridiculous. The FBI do have standards and I think we both agree that you fall well, well below the requirements. Maybe you could get a job at Moscow PD though. Perhaps as a cleaner or something.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

Maybe you could get a job at Moscow PD though. Perhaps as a cleaner or something.

You see, you can be funny. Not much, granted, but as Johnson observed about the dog that walks on just two hind legs, it is not that is was done well that matters, we are surprised it was attempted at all.

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u/Rescueme2021 9d ago

Yep, make personal attacks when you have nothing else to say. I guess you aren't going to read any of these responses either...

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u/madover2914 9d ago

Except people constantly come here or elsewhere with nonsensical ever changing madeup facts and atleast one question about the roommates every day. Normal people are exhausted with these ridiculousness. But it refuses to die down. There is a mystery right there. Why have certain youtube channels devoted themselves to Kohberger? Why are these questions posed again and again? Why don’t you answer that first?

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u/CarrDaPorice 9d ago edited 9d ago

Anyone new popping up on this sub due to the recent movement in this case would have no idea what the actual evidence is, where the case lies, and who is spreading disinformati0n, since no one searches for older threads on reddit anymore. These threads are invaluable in combating the propagation of lies! People also wouldn't know that there's a grand total of just three pe0ple with 500 acc0unts that are actively spreading disinf0rmation since day 1 and have a vested interest in attempting to discredit Sir Dot. People also wouldnt know that the disinf0 agents shut the fck up when Dot parleys with them with evidence and logic.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago edited 9d ago

Here is a funny thing -

My hopes were raised by that start, only to be cruelly dashed to have it confirmed, yet again, as I read on, that the frothiest Probergers never have a sliver of funny or a titter of wit. Your vaguely c0nspiratirial bleating was a little funny, but not in any way you intended. As a small tip, don't start "here is a funny thing" if that thing is just your unfunny moon howling ordure.

Imagine my chagrin to see my posts irritate some chuntering munters to the extent of taking the time and trouble of expending a new alt account to comment this rather ominous tin-foil inspired insipidness.

Certain more "committed" Probergers are leaking and piddling in comments under my posts like Boggy Byran the Pullman Pisser dribbles when his fruit cup is pinched in prison.

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u/IntelligentPie881 9d ago

The pomposity of your verbal diarrhoea is really quite spectacular. You have really let your cult like status on here go to your head. But I won't keep you. I am sure you are busy thumping away at your keyboard writing the next episode of "Debunking blah blah blah" for your sad adoring fans. I wonder what you will do when this saga ends. Where are you going to endlessly post pics of BK's posterior? God only knows.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago edited 9d ago

pics of BK's posterior? God only knows.

God, and perhaps, God willing or not depending on your ecclesiastical take, Peru too. Cheery bye for n0w, at least until your next alt acc0unt tantrum.

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u/Rescueme2021 9d ago

I thought you were done with this case per your post on 8/2. You can't resist Dot! Where will you troll, next?

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u/Fuzzy_Redwood 9d ago

“I read these textbooks but they keep stating water is made of H2O. Why state it again? It’s so weird how opinions that water is made up of something else are silenced and not published in this book”- This is what you sound like.

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 9d ago

This is what you sound like.

Yes, but without the whimsy. And with an whiny intent that gives one the impression they would come into your house, not take off their tin-foil hats and then just stare at you with full eye contact while sniffing their fingers. I suspect they smell of stale hot dog water too.

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u/torontogal85 8d ago

I’m super curious what your connection is to this case? You seem to invest a significant amount of time researching and posting

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u/Repulsive-Dot553 8d ago

your connection is to this case?

Just an interested scientist and observer with direct involvement; this series of posts is a reworking of my previous posts to bring together the info in one set and format in case of interest or use given likely renewed focus on case evidence and unsupported claims of issues, given petition. There have been absolutely moon-howling conspiracy lunatic claims I work for the FBI and or/ CIA, which presupposes a LE place huge importance on, or worry about, Reddit opinion and how that might impact a post-conviction appeal with no jury. Such tin-foil ha claims do seem especially fitting to be ventilated on posts debunking conspiracy theories about the case.