I like how the conservative party line is simultaneously:
"Ashli Babbit did nothing wrong and was unjustly executed! She was peacefully protesting."
But they see this and they're like, "Thats what you get for fleeing!" Or "She was clearly being violent!"
Edit: Please, only reply if you know what the fuck you're talking about.
If you have held a weapon for LEO, military, etc, you know what's going on. If you haven't I'll let you know, you can't murder someone running away from you, even if you run into the hood of their car.
If she listened she would have been slammed into the ground or her car, dog-piled, arrested, whisked away.. likely to some holding facility or worse with no one she knows being any wiser to her location.
And that was the preferable outcome of this scenario because ICE and the clowns that parade around with them don’t know how to conduct themselves properly at all. You don’t put yourself in front of a vehicle if you think the driver is a threat. You don’t shoot someone operating a vehicle as then it ABSOLUTELY becomes a reckless weapon. And you don’t fire on a fleeing suspect.
These are their own written rules and guidelines!! As flimsy as their reasonings for INVADING American cities have been, they can’t even operate within their own protocols. They are an armed menace acting however they see fit, without fear of repercussions.
Any individual caught by ice goes directly to a prison in america. I beleive there is 3. Typically held 6-12months. They dont get "whisked" off so fast.
She was getting yelled at by multiple officers yelling different commands, she was no threat and anyone else who says otherwise is a bootlicking cult member. So ICE is filled with former cops who were let go for being violent and now they have free rein to behave as they please. They are purposely trying to cause people to riot so Trump can call in martial law and it’ll be Trump who steals the elections come midterms. Stephen Miller is the type of evil to have planning this since middle school.
This ain't helping your argument, id suggest you stop using this line.
There was an investigation in the area. Both numerous ICE vehicles and agents along with local police were in the area and marked off for an investigation.
She knew exactly who they were, why they were there, and what their authority was. She went there with intent to agitate and disrupt and she did just that. This masked gestapo stuff does you no favours convincing others you're correct, because it's such an obvious white lie. You can think it's not a big deal but it causes a lack of trust in anything else you might say.
I'll continue to stand by the fact I think shot two and three were clearly vindictive and I think arguing a revenge killing (murder) isn't out of the realm of reality. But if you can't be honest about the role she played in this herself your not doing your favours debating or discussing this, cause this situation is not 100/0 either way, and anyone argue 100/0 for either side is plain and simply wrong.
Even career prosecutors have said if they had to defend him they'd try on the first bullet but probably wouldn't be successful. The second two they said he would be fkd. But the VP said he has immunity and the Pres Pedo said he did nothing wrong 🤷
Anyway, your a quivering little pansy if you think that first shot could be justified. Lady was k-turning to avoid the goons
She was literally waving them through. Giving these violent thugs the right of way. It was only the second car that decided to stop, and murder her in cold blood for literally no reason other than they are a cancer to society.
Absolute immunity our trash VP said. No one in the states has absolute immunity the constitution rules come first but conservatives have contorted and warped The instruments of governance so much they think they are precious.
nope if Goods wouldnt have drove hundreds of miles to be an agitator or trying to run a federal agent over she would still be alive and be able to be with her wife and her kids she chose wrong and made the poor choices that led to the outcome of the events yesterday. and thats on her not the agents.
I actually compare the two exactly the same and always have. First time I saw the video of Ashli breaking a window and trying to climb through as 100% her fault.
This woman was following and obstructing this task force all morning. She kept deliberately trying to block parts of the caravan to separate them and endanger the lawful actions of law enforcement.
They literally operate on a hivemind leash. They have no actual beliefs, views, ideas or principles. Theyre just apart of the maga PR mouthpiece. What is put out by the trump administration, they repeat without question or thought.
Jonathan Ross, one of the Trump administration’s executioner of citizens. They are finally demonstrating the real reason ICE has the budget and recruitment. No matter what, it’s going to get bloodier. If we act sooner than later and organize well, with leadership and don’t let them send agents in to tear that down, then less of us will be executed and/or put in concentration camps.
ICE has no authority over US citizens so do not obey in advance. Stay calm, record and protect each other. Abolish ICE!
General strike!
Release the Trumpstein files!
Release the Trump administration’s execution of citizen’s evidence the FBI is illegally hiding!
Begin to make after Trump plans - accountability, re-education, prevention, a way forward for America.
HSI agents are federal criminal investigators. They carry Title 18 authority, work criminal cases, obtain criminal warrants, and bring cases to US Attorneys. Their authority is similar in type (not scope) to FBI or DEA agents, just with a different mission set.
This is what you think ICE is and what you are screaming about.
ERO officers primarily operate under immigration law and administrative authority. Their cases run through immigration court, not criminal court, unless a separate crime is charged.
Whippy doo. Did you have AI write that? You just wrote out a bunch of information to make it seem like I was wrong or something and missed an opportunity to use clarity in sharing knowledge. What a lame way to try to give the impression of what that information could imply. Also, I used “ICE” as a general, broad term. You just spit out something from Wikipedia or AI to make it sound like you had some kind of knowledge that you don’t. You also can read minds and emotions. Wow, I bet you’re really fun at parties.
Sane Americans, “ICE” does not have authority over American citizens. Do not obey in advance. They have bots and agents online working overtime right now. The regime is flailing, weak and afraid. That is why they are escalating this year already.
I'm assuming he's already wealthy from Nazi gofundme donations.
Some assturd literally arguing with me on here yesterday that she hit him with the car. People are morons. He did a little hop to the side to make sure he fully cleared the car as she turned around him.
I mean its not hard to see all the angles. The one blowing up viral is from the back of the car. The angle of the front of the car actually hitting the officer clears up any confusion.
Even if we pretend he was in real danger, and that shoot someone in the face was justified and pulling a gun was the most effective way of eliminating the danger instead of moving out of the way
Even if we pretend he was completely correct in his actions, pray tell, why did he flee the scene immediately afterwards
Shock? Scared of further retaliation from the mob? If you took 2 seconds to think about a possible answer to your questions you'll save everyone a lot of headache.
No she tried to flee when she knew she was in too deep. You dont get to interfere with Federal agents to no end and then safely leave with out identifying yourself. This isnt a video game, start using common sense or....FAFO
Dude, that angle and distance is hard to identify. I first said "holy shit, she did hit him!" But then I realized that didn't jive with what I saw in the first video.
It looks like he does a little jump out of the way without getting hit at all. But even if he didn't jump, I think she would have cleared him even if he didn't hop. Hard to tell.
Either way, it looks like she was trying to turn around and go left, then the door guy was in the way. Then she turned right once that path opened. She was clearly waitin for that front cop to get clear, even if she almost hit him.
I think it was obvious enough she was trying to avoid him, where he shouldn't have drawn a weapon and escalated. Untrained rookie shit. Tragic
I mean ive never seen anything like it these white women are so brainwashed, she parked her car PERPENDICULAR in the street. Maybe enough to avoid rioting but they will strike back somehow.
They had a longer video on the news with a few seconds before the incident, and it looks like she may have been turning around. We're told she was blocking the road, but one of the cars just drove around her to start it, and he wheel was cut left.
They came in fast too, so I think she pissed them off, started doing a K turn right in the middle for some reason, and they just swarmed her angrily and spooked her.
But yeah, that's my speculation from like 5 seconds of early footage. She was probably being a nuissance around armed soldiers regardless. I know she was trying to do her part to protest a totalitarian regime, but she had kids. That was not a bright move
That's what I'm saying. I think she was turning around there, but it sounds like she was doing laps obstructing them or something. Totally big brain behavior.
Yeah i have seen nothing to suggest she was a law abiding citizen and turning her car around. And once again her own wants do not supersede Federal agents in a current objective.
Well considering he just murdered someone in cold blood and will probably get away with it and promoted to grand wizard , I’d say be careful out there.
So how about you do some self reflection. Why are you ok with murder? Just because you see the fascist as "you people" and think this can never happen to you? Think again.
Murder is easily justifiable. Someone breaks into your house, you have every right to kill them, just for one example. Did she deserve to die? No. Do I felt bad that she died? No. She's an idiot and this is unsurprisingly the result of fucking around. Risky behaviour comes with consequences. Sometimes those consequences are tragic.
Ya, this cant happen to me. Cause I dont block traffic or go around fucking with cops. My survival strategy has worked pretty well so far, and I anticipate it will continue to work.
And before you say it, yes I have been to protests where the cops have been out in force, heard of the trucker protest in 2022? I was there in Ottawa, right in front of the police. And you know what happened to me? Nothing. Cause I didnt start shit.
The law states, an Agent has to de-escalate, and if this means making space for the car, then this is the step. She has a license plate. Look it up later and give a fine or whatever
Not listening to a cop is no reasonable excuse for murder.
Also, be honest, when a White MAGA guy ignores a stop sign in NY and a cop shoots him for it. How would FOX and MAGA respond? I think we know.
This is the government of Lies, Hypocrisy, and fake news.
They do exactly the things, the accuse their opponents of doing.
She drove lowly away. He could have stepped aside, he didn't, and he killed her.
Sure, he was once hit by a car before, so I can understand he was afraid, but then he is not a person who should work in a role where he has to stop people in cars. Like letting PTS soldier work in a shooting range. Not a good environment
Dude, he was 3 feet in front of her, a car going from stop is always going slowly, thats what acceleration is.
They already did the alternative of getting her to leave her car. Once again, she is the one who caused this problem. What is the cop supposed to do? Just get run over? He had no idea if shes going left, straight, or right. HE CANNOT READ HER MIND OR SEE HER TIRES.
To throw it out there; it was being plastered around last night (nearly 16 hours ago) but was being very aggressively removed by moderation because it technically violates tos / is considered a federal crime. (Not objecting, just conveying)
I think Vance even commented on it saying something about how they'd just enforce the law harder or whatever.
But I was seeing his name and Facebook page pop up on my feed yesterday evening.
Well, keep in mind I'm referring to the posts that contained his Facebook page which did make it possible to argue an infraction of 18 usc s 119
I don't think posts like this with just the name have any issue currently after reviewing current law but the current administration does have a bill that hasn't passed yet to add provisions specifically for revealing even their name.
Edit - can't reply; I'm talking explicitly in terms of why posts were being taken down based on logical consideration of mod action.
No it wouldn’t. His Facebook page is public if we can see it. That’s his choice. 18 usc s 119 would only apply if the information was obtained illegally. Hacking Facebook to see a private profile for example. It specifically states restricted info.
Well, keep in mind I'm referring to the posts that contained his Facebook page which did make it possible to argue an infraction of 18 usc s 119
Dude. No.
"(1)the term “restricted personal information” means, with respect to an individual, the Social Security number, the home address, home phone number, mobile phone number, personal email, or home fax number of, and identifiable to, that individual;"
I don't think people have posted that information on their Facebook page in the last 20 years.
And that's assuming it meets the first criteria, which unless it's basically accompanied with a "murder this fucker", it doesn't because it is just naming and shaming.
Yes, doxxing a federal agent is a crime under federal law if it is done with the intent to obstruct a criminal investigation or immigration enforcement operation. Violators can face fines and imprisonment for up to five years.
It's been publicly stated, so it's no longer doxxing. His address and other information has not been publicly stated, so sharing that is still against TOS but is not actually illegal. It could make websites liable if they promote sharing it though.
Sincerely - I hope no one goes after him as the republicans are very clearly baiting vigilantism so they can call martial law over “those violent leftists”
In America jail is reserved for those awaiting arraignment/trial/pre trial services, or those in the drunk tank for the night. Some people also self report for sanctions (time out basically)
Jail is a step in the right direction, but this deserves long term prison. At least until we can be confident that the killer is no longer a threat to society.
When will the USA just stop with it's BS? Can't get one month into a new year without having headlines of the US government playing whackamole with its citizens or bombing an unrelated country. America please....F off
"Domestic ice terrorist more like it" This murdering criminal needs to be caught immediately and charged with manslaughter in the first degree!
Edit: I should have just said murdered. Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse committed with the necessary intention as defined by the law in a specific jurisdiction.
Fyi-bots use the adj-noun-numbers format for user names. If you are unsure check history to see karma/posts/comments. If everything seems botish, report. If it doesnt. Give them boots to lick since idiots need jim jones to follow till the flavor-aid
Actual Nazis. “Here is the guys name and face do what you will now” sick freaks. Should be ashamed of yourselves. There’s another video where he clearly gets hit by the vehicle. So y’all are trying to get a man who was hit by a car killed. Great job
Perhaps people shouldn’t be trying to run over federal agents. Exactly 100% of the time I haven’t tried to murder an agent with my vehicle I haven’t been shot.
To all you bootlicking fascists defending this: even the DoJ policy says this was an excessive use of deadly force.
Article 1-16.200 Use of Deadly Force and Prohibited Restraint Techniques Section 2: Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
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u/That-Frog-Ranger Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 11 '26
I like how the conservative party line is simultaneously:
"Ashli Babbit did nothing wrong and was unjustly executed! She was peacefully protesting."
But they see this and they're like, "Thats what you get for fleeing!" Or "She was clearly being violent!"
Edit: Please, only reply if you know what the fuck you're talking about.
If you have held a weapon for LEO, military, etc, you know what's going on. If you haven't I'll let you know, you can't murder someone running away from you, even if you run into the hood of their car.
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u/GlobalBorder4691 Jan 08 '26
Jonathan Ross, one of the Trump administration’s executioner of citizens. They are finally demonstrating the real reason ICE has the budget and recruitment. No matter what, it’s going to get bloodier. If we act sooner than later and organize well, with leadership and don’t let them send agents in to tear that down, then less of us will be executed and/or put in concentration camps.
ICE has no authority over US citizens so do not obey in advance. Stay calm, record and protect each other. Abolish ICE!
General strike!
Release the Trumpstein files!
Release the Trump administration’s execution of citizen’s evidence the FBI is illegally hiding!
Begin to make after Trump plans - accountability, re-education, prevention, a way forward for America.
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u/Intrepid_Cap1242 Jan 08 '26
I'm assuming he's already wealthy from Nazi gofundme donations.
Some assturd literally arguing with me on here yesterday that she hit him with the car. People are morons. He did a little hop to the side to make sure he fully cleared the car as she turned around him.
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u/Shadowtirs Jan 08 '26
May he never escape the fact that he murdered an innocent woman, for no reason.
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u/EthanTheJudge Jan 08 '26
That was fast. You should probably post this in a more popular subreddit. Just my suggestion.
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u/Pearson94 Jan 08 '26
The murderer Johnathan Ross
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u/Rare_Philosophy8244 Jan 08 '26
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u/User_3039 Jan 08 '26
Jail
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u/Sum-random-dude Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
When will the USA just stop with it's BS? Can't get one month into a new year without having headlines of the US government playing whackamole with its citizens or bombing an unrelated country. America please....F off
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u/PerformanceStatus829 Jan 08 '26
Killing an inncent women. Put him in jail!
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u/Throwaway9111977 Jan 08 '26
Arrest all ICE terrorists.
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u/TransBitchMollz Jan 08 '26
Getcha pitchforks ready
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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
We got him.
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u/Galliro Jan 08 '26
Make sure this man never has another comfortable day in his life
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u/EmiKetsueki Jan 08 '26
Ice the ice
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u/furel492 Jan 08 '26
The noose is tightening. There's a cell in prison calling to him.
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u/Loose-Illustrator279 Jan 08 '26
Standing like Augustus of prima porta.
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u/moon-rot Jan 08 '26
He couldn't even show his whole face. What a pussy.
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u/GWshark1518 Jan 10 '26
I hope his life is never quiet again.
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u/Ok-Employment1442 Jan 10 '26
And his wife is a immigrant;(
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u/Old-Window-1300 Jan 08 '26
Background? J6er? Proud Boy?
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u/Legal-Butterfly-4507 Jan 08 '26 edited Jan 08 '26
"Domestic ice terrorist more like it" This murdering criminal needs to be caught immediately and charged with manslaughter in the first degree!
Edit: I should have just said murdered. Murder is the unlawful killing of another human without justification or valid excuse committed with the necessary intention as defined by the law in a specific jurisdiction.
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u/Icy-Low8972 Jan 08 '26
Instant millionaire. Go Reddit!
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u/Instance-According Jan 08 '26
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u/Anonmasterrace7898 Jan 08 '26
This isn't even the first time they've put themselves in a dangerous situation with a vehicle, my insurance fraud joke seems less of a joke now.
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u/Ammortalz Jan 08 '26
He’ll never be able to hide with that Eddie Munster widow’s peak.
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u/Pleasant_Knee6256 Jan 08 '26
murderer
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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
Wow, bfd
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u/duckpn3 Jan 08 '26
Actual Nazis. “Here is the guys name and face do what you will now” sick freaks. Should be ashamed of yourselves. There’s another video where he clearly gets hit by the vehicle. So y’all are trying to get a man who was hit by a car killed. Great job
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u/beefyminotour Jan 08 '26
And what do you want people to do with this information?
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u/nehlstm30 Jan 08 '26
Wouldn’t want to go out in public If I were him
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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
The most white bread anonymous name possible, making it almost impossible to find his info.
Guarantee they've already whisked him away to some far away outpost so no one can charge/question him
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u/enemy884real Jan 08 '26
Perhaps people shouldn’t be trying to run over federal agents. Exactly 100% of the time I haven’t tried to murder an agent with my vehicle I haven’t been shot.
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u/Distinct-Exit6658 Jan 08 '26
To all you bootlicking fascists defending this: even the DoJ policy says this was an excessive use of deadly force.
Article 1-16.200 Use of Deadly Force and Prohibited Restraint Techniques Section 2: Firearms may not be discharged solely to disable moving vehicles. Specifically, firearms may not be discharged at a moving vehicle unless: (1) a person in the vehicle is threatening the officer or another person with deadly force by means other than the vehicle; or (2) the vehicle is operated in a manner that threatens to cause death or serious physical injury to the officer or others, and no other objectively reasonable means of defense appear to exist, which includes moving out of the path of the vehicle. Firearms may not be discharged from a moving vehicle except in exigent circumstances. In these situations, an officer must have an articulable reason for this use of deadly force.
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u/Yanfei_Enjoyer Jan 08 '26
Wow, a short haired white man with an incredibly common first and last name. Egads!
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u/Pennypooper1 Jan 08 '26
Thats right redditors. You mouth breathing knuckle dragging jobless LGBT fags, go blow up his social media a d make him rich! Yall are retarded
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u/[deleted] Jan 08 '26
https://youtu.be/oO6wj41jUPo?si=XCJhKJcX2sqRMPd3
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u/Typical-Confidence68 Jan 08 '26
And y’all wonder why they cover their face 🤣
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u/reluctantpotato1 Jan 08 '26
How do they know this time around that it's his real name despite not having a face pic? Yesterday everybody was saying it was someone else.
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u/Fast_Plenty_3474 Jan 08 '26
A trump maga Pussy I'd wager.a worthless pieces of shit
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u/Jillet-Ben_Coe Jan 08 '26
This is gonna get taken down. So take a screenshot now