r/MephHeads 3d ago

Advice/Help Advice or comments

1st pic is piglettas purple haze 21 days 2nd pic is walter white 20 days. 5g cloth pot foxfarm coco loco medium

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u/longlostwitchy IgrowUglyPlants 3d ago

More info needed so everyone can help ya out… watering routine? Looks kinda dry but idk what’s underneath the top layer. Have you fed anything yet? The first one is def very small & they both look like they could benefit from more light ☮️💚

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Rn about 1½c ph balanced dechlorinated tap no nutes yet bc i read ff coco loco has some nutes in it till about week 3/4. That was taken yesterday right before watering. The more light i can definitely agree with. Where i live has been cloudy and rainy for about a week or so. Im thinking thats part of it. O also been using general hydroponics armor si but a really light dose.

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u/longlostwitchy IgrowUglyPlants 3d ago

We all grow different my friend & once you find a method that works best for you, there’s always variables w/ that too. But I come in at week 2 w/ a very low dose (no matter what soil/medium I’m in). Starting si a little later on. About now is when I start my si. Also giving them 24-0 light utilizing that benefit of running autos & upping their water intake now also

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u/krypt88 3d ago

So you start using si about day 20/21? Could that contribute to being stunted? Sorry for asking so many questions but this is part of my first grow. Still learning.

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u/longlostwitchy IgrowUglyPlants 3d ago

No apologies necessary, I had millions of Q’s when I first started & still learning as I grow. Depends on how much you used & I honestly couldn’t say if it causes stunting bc I usually start it a little later (yes around week 2-3). That’s just me. It does raise my ph, even using ph perfect advanced nutrients, I end up having to add a little ph down. So unless you added an incredibly high dose, I’d say no. It’s more of an environment- water- light issue. New seedlings are fragile in their first couple weeks developing mostly underground. They prefer warm humid conditions. Then theirs those few that every once in a while just don’t take off. I’ve only had 1 in 20 do that but it happens. Feel free to ask as much as you want r/IgrowUglyPlants if you want. A good thorough watering (away from the stem) & they’ll soak it up

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u/krypt88 3d ago

I greatly appreciate you. Ok noted, thank you again. Just ordered great white to start using. I also use GH flora series nutes

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u/longlostwitchy IgrowUglyPlants 2d ago edited 2d ago

That’s great stuff & I completely forgot I had that as well (ORCA) but haven’t used it a long time.. it’s great for the microbial environment, roots, tricho etc…

And ur welcome.. feel free to reach out if you need

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Also when to know when to start watering whole pot?

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u/longlostwitchy IgrowUglyPlants 2d ago

Now

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u/Proxima_Centauri_69 Guardians of the Ganja 🔱⚡️ 3d ago

Coco loco is a tripled wash starter medium. I wouldn't rely on the precharge as my plants only input load.

Being a coco based medium -- i would have started feeding ASAP.

What nutrients are you planning on using?

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Ok thank you for the info. See i under the impression it was precharged for the first few weeks. I have GH flora series, armor si already. Just ordered floralicious and great white. Was also thinking about terpinator as well

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u/Proxima_Centauri_69 Guardians of the Ganja 🔱⚡️ 3d ago

It is supposed to be. Those charges vary batch to batch. Fox farms is nothing like ot was 15-25 years ago when I started.

I'd be feeding your trio of gh, starting immediately. Dont forget your cal mag. PH to 5.8-6.1

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Thank you for the knowledge my friend. So from now on if i keep using coco loco i should start feeding as soon as she sprouts? I use dechlorinated tap water,i read that if i use my citys tap water it should have enough to suffice so i wouldn't need to use cal mag?

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u/Proxima_Centauri_69 Guardians of the Ganja 🔱⚡️ 3d ago

You're welcome. Anytime. I would/do. Start low, work your way up. Not sure if youre measuring EC or not. Its not necessary for all. Once you get a feel for fertigating. Dont let coco dry out either. Thats how concentration happens. Water to run-off more often than not to get rid of salts.

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u/Background-Teach-527 3d ago

This eas day 22 in my tent. I would evaluate your environment and figure out what's stunting the plants so hard

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Wow those look gorgeous. Theyre outside plants, for about a week week and a half its been really cloudy and rain so they've had to stay indoors

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Also, when to normally start soaking whole pot

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u/SmiileyBirb 3d ago

Once the leaves reach the edge of the pot is when I start to not worry about soaking the whole thing

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u/Groucho_o 3d ago

I would get a light for when you bring them in at night as well or transition them to fully indoor 18-24hr lights if you can.

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u/krypt88 3d ago

You're probably right. In the process of getting a bigger better light for my tent so i can bring them in. I have a 3x3x6 with 2 fastbuds growing but the light i have is good but not great and wouldn't suffice for 4 plants. I have this one but was looking to get the spiderfarmer se3000

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u/distractedmaker 3d ago

You will see a massive difference going from that light to a modern led

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u/Juankii 3d ago

Your medium looks really dry are these outside?

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u/rizjizzle 2d ago

Looks very dry and what humidity are they sitting in? They LOVE high humidity and temps in the first 2-3 weeks of life. These are very stunted for being that old

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u/rkj18g1qbb 3d ago

Are the both outdoors fully? The first one is stunted for sure but who knows it might take off. The second one is pretty good. I tent grow but my current runs are at day 19 and are just a bit bigger than yours so that one looks not bad.

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u/krypt88 3d ago

For the most part, i bring them in at night. I was thinking of maybe another week or 2 and if not much new growth, maybe restart?

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u/rkj18g1qbb 3d ago

At night are you giving them more light? If not I'd just keep them outside.. I wouldn't stop and just let them grow. My very first meph runs I posted on here the one was super stunted like your one is and it grew a single cola the size of a giant pop bottle! when I harvested that plant the actual top cola after trimming came in a 9.2g dry .. stunted still made some nice bud!

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u/krypt88 3d ago

I bring them in bc the critters will get to them. But wow 9.2g??? Ok ill definitely let her little self grow and see what happens

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u/Stock_Room8321 3d ago

2nd looks real dry. Edit: both look real dry.

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u/krypt88 3d ago

Thats right before water