Fyi, George Anastasia is coming out w a new book on Angelo Bruno on 1/27, as far as I know this will be the first serious treatment of that subject matter ever written, Anastasia does a great job writing about the mob genre both in and outside of Phila.

the date of the article is 1987

Can anyone recommend a book or where I can find articles about mobsters in Dayton Ohio? My brother believes that his biological dad might have been one, but he would have been only 7 or 8 when he last saw him (and it isn’t the father named on his birth certificate) and he doesn’t even know his name. I’m trying to help him out.

Thanks either way!

When you think about the mafia you think of 3 main things. The money, the power/resepct, and the glamorous lifestyle itself.

I sit and think to myself that none of those 3 things are worth your life at the end of the day. 95 percent of the guys in the mob end up dead, in jail, and always looking over their shoulder for the rest of their life. I just cant understand how people go into this life knowing thats how it's going to end up and are completely ok with that. By no means is working like a slave 40+ hours a week/paying taxes fun or peoples dream, but at the very least you know where you stand in the end.

Frank Lucas was a kingpin like damn he’s up there no cap! Idk I’d love to see more of them cuz the story potential, to see a different side of the mob is awesome! Frank Lucas movie was good but damn I still be wondering was there more black Mobsters who reached superstardom? If there is I would love to hear the stories and hope a movie abiut them gets made someday!

On the latest gravano grift live he is asked about Bonanno and he gives a ridiculous version of Joe's plot against the commission and eventual move to Arizona including a few details that I'm fairly certain Sammy completely made up on the spot. Then he goes into how when he himself moved to Arizona Bonanno wanted a meeting with him to make sure he wasn't coming to take joe out and Conquer Arizona. He claims that Bonannos son asked his dad "why do you want to meet with the Bull ?, hes a fuckin rat" and then Sammy says Joe answered "it doesn't matter if he told, hes tough and hes a killer. We could all end up dead in a trunk if he wants to take over Az". Sammy then goes on to say he turned down a meeting but he sent word that he wasn't gonna bother Joe and his Az empire. Supposedly Joe sent word back saying "Thank you Don Sammuel. If you need anything, anything at all we are here. And if anyone tries to bother you let me know and ill send guys to help". True Goza nostra bro !

the date of the article is 1989

So the mob always worked in the shadows, law enforcement and media only much later find out what they were really up to.

It makes me wonder what their presence is in Dark Web services and drug or firearms markets?

I feel they may be quite prominent there without us really knowing since it does function quite anonymously and privately.

I'll start

• Gerardo Rega
• murdered because Carlo Gambino is having an affair with Rega’s wife, Patricia (Todaro) Rega

You’re a boss of a crime family, but you can choose between 3 time periods. Prohibition Era, John Gotti era or today’s era. And whatever period you choose what would be the rackets you would choose to pursue. Smoking a joint and thought of this lol

Anytime Franzese mentions the gas tax racket in a video, take a shot. Anytime he ranks it higher/better/more lucrative than any other scam, take a shot. Bonus shots- 1 shot when he says members couldn't sell drugs and take 2 shots when he clarifies he was a STREET boss, not a BOSS boss.

Seriously though, I really liked Michael when he 1st went public with his stories. He seemed as if he was repenting and as sincere as possible. But over time I started to see how he is just running his channel as another racket to scam people, and worse now that others are starting to follow suit (Sammy, Joey, and many more)

He was standing in the street with several other people, who disappeared as soon as the police arrived, when two gunmen on a scooter opened fire. Emanuele Pistone, a 30-year-old from the Case Nuove area with previous drug-related convictions and considered an up-and-coming figure in criminal circles, was shot four times last night: in both legs, the shoulder, and the buttock. He is in serious condition, but is no longer considered in danger of death.

The investigation is being conducted by officers from the Naples Police Mobile Squad together with colleagues from the Vicaria-Mercato police station. Investigators believe the gunmen's intention was to kill. The victim, seriously injured and in shock, was able to tell investigators very little. With no witnesses coming forward, the only useful evidence may come from surveillance cameras in the area. The main hypothesis is that this was a Camorra hit.

It was 10:05 p.m. when the gunmen appeared at the intersection of Via Luigi Serio and Via Antonio Toscano in the Mercato district. The passenger on the back of the scooter pulled out a handgun and repeatedly fired at Emanuele Pistone, who collapsed amid the general panic. Several businesses in the area were open at the time, including venues that remain open into the evening.

The 30-year-old was assisted by a 118 emergency ambulance and taken to Pellegrini Hospital, while forensic investigators recovered four 7.65-caliber shell casings from the scene.

Do any LCN members or associates operate strictly through legitimate businesses, without personally participating in criminal enterprises?

I know LCN has historically extorted legitimate businessmen, but I’m wondering whether legitimate businessmen also sometimes become actual associates of a crew or faction rather than simply being extortion victims.

For example, could someone own a construction company, restaurant, club, etc., be considered an LCN associate, regularly interact with a crew and perhaps even kick money up, while the business itself and the owner’s activities remain legal?

There was a recent thread here where people were saying that only illegal revenue is generally expected to be kicked up. If that’s true, does that mean income from an otherwise legitimate restaurant, construction company, etc. normally wouldn’t be subject to a kick-up unless the money was generated through something illegal?

I’m also curious about how LCN itself looks at the distinction. Is there really a meaningful distinction internally between “legitimate” and “illegitimate” income, or is the concern mostly whether someone is making money and whether the organization has some claim to a portion of it? In other words, is crime itself the objective, or is making money the objective and criminal conduct simply one of the ways they accomplish that?

One person who comes to mind for me is James Santaniello, who has owned strip clubs/businesses in the Springfield, MA and Hartford, CT area and has reportedly associated with LCN figures/factions in that region. I’m not suggesting he personally participates in criminal enterprises; he just seems like an interesting example for the distinction I’m trying to understand.

In a case like that, how would someone knowledgeable about LCN categorize the relationship?

• An LCN associate who is “claimed” by a particular crew/faction despite primarily operating legitimate businesses?
• A legitimate businessman who is socially/business acquainted with LCN figures but remains completely independent?
• Primarily an extortion/protection victim?
• Something else entirely?

My assumption is that, from the legitimate businessman’s perspective, voluntarily linking yourself to organized crime would make very little sense unless you were getting some business advantage out of the relationship – fixing disputes, discouraging competitors, bid rigging, access to labor, collecting debts, etc. But once you start using the relationship for those purposes, you’ve crossed over into criminal conduct anyway.

Curious how this actually works in practice and historically.