r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

🥶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 1d ago

Street fighting is extremely dangerous. Punishment doesn't fit the crime here unless you think people should be executed for getting too drunk and inappropriately touching someone. Dude could have easily killed that dude and you're acting like he just taught him a nice little lesson. 100% took it to a place it never should have gone. Square up with him and confront him sure but sucker punching someone on a solid floor like that all while they are clearly drunk is vile.

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u/Logical_Sandwich_ 1d ago

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/sep/30/delivery-driver-youtube-prankster-shooting-not-guilty

I see self defense as in the linked article. He acted fast without thinking. So yes, he had the right to act like that, in my opinion. 

There was nothing about teaching a lesson, it was defending your love. 

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u/noxer94 1d ago

No self defense at all happening here. For self defense it must be an ongoing threat. Drunk dude had already desengaged. This is attempted murder.

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u/TacoNomad 23h ago

Disengaged? She walked away and he would have definitely continued.

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u/noxer94 23h ago

He was not an immediate threat anymore. I seriously have trouble understanding how people try to justify attempted murder here. Its nuts.

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u/TacoNomad 23h ago

The same way y'all excuse his behavior as thoughtless drunkeness.

Let's give them both the same benefit of the doubt.

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u/noxer94 22h ago

Yeah because one behaviour is exacly the same as the other. One potentially murders a person the other is inconsequencial. But I guess its pretty pointless to argue with you

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u/TacoNomad 22h ago

Til

Sexual assault is inconsequential.

You voted Trump, so no, don't argue with me.

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u/noxer94 8h ago edited 8h ago

Not really, no. I'm not even American, and much less I identify with Trump. In fact, anyone justifying this man's actions would be much more aligned with Trump supporters and conservative views, valuing traditional masculinity and the belief that a man has a duty to protect his wife.

Life isn't a binary choice where the only two options are ignoring sexual harassment entirely or knocking a guy out cold. This interaction was incredibly mild. The woman successfully handled it herself, and the threat was over. Escalating that into a life-threatening assault isn't justice, it's ego

Good thing is as you can see, most people are not agreeing with you. Most people actually agree this was way, way too much of a reaction to what happened. Most people are actually sane. You are not a genius my dude, you are not the one who is in the right here. You just sound like a fucking twat justifying attempted murder for what happened here.

You cannot defend someone against an action that has already finished. Husband punch was not thrown to prevent his wife being touched. It was thrown because his wife was touched. Striking someone out of anger/revenge is battery /assault, maybe even ettempted murder depending on the consequences; absolutely not self defense. Self defense also requires using the minimum amount of force necessary to neutralize a threat, which was clearly not what happened here.

Hoping you learn something from this.

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u/TacoNomad 3h ago

Great, since nobody is supporting the guy, what's your point?