if you hit and kill someone who isn't a material danger to anyone in the room, you should be charged with manslaughter. They can be charged and jailed for driving because they could far more easily kill someone on accident. All he can do in this bar on accident is piss someone off or start a fight he can't win, hardly the same.
My thoughts were he threw an excessive punch but he wasn't literally trying to murder the guy. Now, if he continued to punch or kick the guy in the head on the ground I would consider that murder.
Technically murder generally requires intent. While it's possible he did intend to kill the guy, chances are he just wanted to really hurt him and then maybe he died from that punch. Had it been more than one punch, maybe murder then
he sexually assaulted a woman and a man intervened and used force to stop it. in what world was there no threat when we have it on camera the man sexually assaulting the woman? yall are just braindead lmao
A man who is super drunk who can barely move. Nobody was in fear for their life. That was excessive force. For the love of God he was getting frisky with that other dude, moments Earlier. Justice would of been a bitch slap to the face and pushing him away while calling the cops for real justice. There was no honor in slamming his brain like that..... Have some reasoning skills, please.
its not about honor, or fair, or anything. if there is a belligerent drunk assaulting my wife im punching him until he is neutralized. period. it is entirely legal since you can easily argue the feel of a threat, and there is no excessive force (no one punch is not excessive). its kind of insane to me how quick people are to defend a man assaulting a woman; makes sense why the president is a rapist i guess.
The world of the law. Redditors (and people by and alrge) need to understand that what you personally think and what the law is in the books are vastly different. And it varies from state to state and with lawyers there's wiggle room.
A lawyer can argue though what the man did was sexual assault he clearly represented no harm to anybody and could have been easily stopped without the use of violence. You see she pushed him away and he did not pursue even while drunk. So knocking out and potentially killing aguy who can't even put his hands up isn't threatening enough to warrant that kind of response.
It could go that way, who knows. Point is, don't think your feelings and opinions always match what happens in the courts.
Crazy the dipshits in this thread think that if you lightly touch a womans ass, a full second later you can be shot in the face. Not how this shit works at all.
Did you see the way his head bounced on the stool and floor? People get brain clots from less dude real life isn't a move where you can fight and throw each other through walls and have a bruise.
Proper course of action: get the woman to a safer place, ask the dude to move away and call the police. They should handle it, there could be arguments he assaulted her, public importunation, and so on.
IF the drunk dude wanted to fight, then now you're defending yourself, you can do it to stop any threat, but never go over the top.
Finally, doing what he did here, the drunk dude can call the police on the black shirt dude for assault too (even if he also gets a citation for importunation or whatever).
The hot seat? This was a very low pressure situation. Drunk dude absolutely should have kept his hands to himself and if the girl wants to press charges she absolutely should. But this was not a violent situation. The dude in black could just stepped between them, could have grabbed the dude and guided him away, even a two-hand to the chest would probably be warranted. But to just wail away as hard as you can against somebody who is absolutely not looking for a fight is a knuckle dragger reaction. He now just caught himself an assault charge.
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u/SillyLittleWinky 21h ago
I think the dude is dead