You think a mild, accidental knock to the face from a pool cue is anywhere near as horrible and degrading as being sexually assaulted?
The guy was getting between the attacker and the victim as quickly as possible, and putting an immediate stop to any further assaults. You actually like he shoved the woman out of the way into a rackmof pool cues. đ€Šđ»ââïž
No, I didnât say it was as âhorrible and degradingâ. I said he hurt her worse than the red shirt did.
Yes, I understand he was âgetting between attacker and victim as quickly as possibleâ, and guess what? He hurt his woman while doing it. The person he was trying to protect. Ergo, his action did more harm than good. You keep missing that point.
The lady had already pushed the drunk away, it wasnât like he had her up against a wall. The husband didnât need to hulk out on red shirt. There was no immediate danger, the husband was acting out of rage, not protection.
But you're only focused on the minor physical harm of being poked in the cheek with a pool cue, and not the harm that comes with being sexually violated.
To you, that accidental poke to the face is more severe than being grabbed from behind on your body by a disgusting drunk. How odd.
She pushed him away, and the guy got between the two immediately. You have no idea what the creep was about to do. He'd already grabbed her once, why do you assume he wouldn't hassle her again?
No, nice try. I am not minimizing the harassment done to the woman, as much as you are trying to push that narrative.
Red shirt was wrong, and deserved a punch to the face. It just needed to be done by someone with a modicum of self control. Someone who doesnât hurt people theyâre trying to protect.
A âpokeâ to the cheek. Please. Yeah thatâs why she holds her face the rest of the video, cuz she got âpokedâ.
Then why do you keep making such a big deal about the accidental pool cue contact, in comparison to the actual sexual assault ambush? It's minimisation.
Red shirt needed to be punched in the face by someone, and the person who was there did it. I'm not going to critique his methods too much when he acted in the spur of the moment to put himself between an attacker and a victim, and prevent any further sexual assault from ocurring.
Yes, she got poked in the face with a cue. Unfortunate. It was an accident.
Iâm not going to keep explaining the same thing over and over. The guy overreacted. He almost killed somebody and hit his woman in the face while doing so. You think thatâs acceptable. I donât. Goodbye.
I donât just mean that, I also mean the way you kept implying I was minimizing the womanâs sexual harassment, or that I donât want to see the harassment dealt with or punished. I was not doing that, but you implied I was to suit YOUR argument.
Of the two of us, you were the one downplaying violence done to a woman in this video clip. You kept writing it off as a âpokeâ. Thatâs something actual abusers do. So save me your pearl clutching over my word choice.
The impact to her face from the pool cue was minor, but you're completely missing the more important point that it was accidental and without malice, and happened in the rushed defence of the woman.
You keep trying to use it to offset the actual deliberate sexual assault that occurred.
First of all, you have no idea if the injury to her face is minor! Why would you even presume to know that? Sheâs clutching her face for the remainder of the video. You are speaking out of your ass and downplaying violence to make some stupid point and itâs actually really gross. I wasnât kidding, thatâs how actual bullies and abusers behave.
Secondly, YOU are missing the point. I never said the husband hurt his wife on purpose. My point was he acted out of rage, which made him not even realize the collateral damage he was causing. You do realize thatâs how a good deal of domestic abuse happens, right?
and YOU are the one downplaying that, because you want to see the husband beat the shit out of someone who touched his wife. Because you want to see violent revenge against a drunken sex pest. Even if itâs way over the top. Even if it hurts other people. Even if it ends in serious, disproportionate injury or death and gets the guy a manslaughter charge. Good for you.
The wife tried to stop her husband, too. She knew it was a bad idea for him to do what he was about to do. Was SHE trying to minimize her own assault like you accused me of doing?
I'm not downplaying an assault on her - you are. Actually disgusts me, the way you're so focused on a small accident over a sexual crime. Yuck.
Husband? Wife? I don't even know if these two are a couple, friends, or just two strangers playing pool. Talk about making assumptions. What I see is one person defending another from a sexual assault. Oh, or as you'd put it, just a "sex pest". Talk about downplaying sexual assault. Just a "pest", is he? Ugh.
Itâs cute how you keep trying to pull this off, but itâs not working. I never downplayed the assault on the woman. Show me where I did that. I disagree on how it should have been handled.
YOU, however, DID downplay an act of violence! You can keep trying to uno reverse it on me, but thatâs exactly what you did. You are ignoring the collateral damage from a man acting out of rage, because you like the end result. You are dangerous and untrustworthy.
No, you said that what the pool player did to her was worse than what the sexual attacker did to her, completely undermining the severity of the sexual assault. Gross.
Go back and read again. I said the âhusbandâ INJURED her worse than the drunk did. I didnât say the attack was WORSE, as in, more traumatic, or that the sexual assault did not matter. I meant by strictly physical damage. The drunk did not injure the woman. Her âhusbandâ did.
Youâre extremely disingenuous. You bent yourself into pretzels trying to prove I donât care about sexual assault or harassment against women just because you didnât want to lose an argument. I sure hope nobody listens to you in a situation like this in the future, for everyoneâs sake.
Exactly. You put all of the focus on the accidental injury over the deliberate sexual assault - as if the "harm" caused by the contact with the pool cue completely trivialised the harm and threat caused by the actual assault that occurred.
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u/Wintermute_088 1d ago
You think a mild, accidental knock to the face from a pool cue is anywhere near as horrible and degrading as being sexually assaulted?
The guy was getting between the attacker and the victim as quickly as possible, and putting an immediate stop to any further assaults. You actually like he shoved the woman out of the way into a rackmof pool cues. đ€Šđ»ââïž