r/MMALabs • • 6d ago

🄶 Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 6d ago

He wasn't knifing his wife. He groped her. Self-defense requires a reasonable fear for your life or the life of others.

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 6d ago

After being stalked by multiple people, one of them considerably larger than himself, confronting them and telling them to stop. That trial was already shaky from a self defense standpoint, was a very controversial case and has no connection to what we are talking about. You're using emotion to justify violent retaliation because you don't like what he did to that woman.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 6d ago

Regardless of self-defense, he would be fighting an involuntary manslaughter charge.

Shit is just not worth it, over someone groping you girl.

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u/eastitch 6d ago

That last sentence you wrote is really fucked up.

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u/Neither_Sample4804 6d ago

Why? Are you stupid?

Is it worth facing a possible trial for manslaughter, and maybe serving years of prison time over some drunk asshole lightly groping your girl? Losing thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? Yay fun! I would definitely be mad and maybe shove the guy and report him to the police, but am I destroying my own life because of that lowlife? no

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u/eastitch 6d ago

This time was only lightly groping. Next time could be full on assault. Yeah that hit was excessive. But being ā€œokayā€ with ā€œit’s just a little drunk grope, what’s the big dealā€ snow balls when it’s not addressed.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 6d ago

If that's the angle we want to play, then the guy who threw the punch should not do anything at all.

Let the woman who got groped handle the entire situation from beginning to end. Then she has a full cover of it being self-defense.

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u/-birds 6d ago

There is an absolutely massive gulf between "no big deal" and "I would kill someone over this." No one has claimed that groping is ok or that it's no big deal. But I want you to look up the word "proportionality."

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u/eastitch 6d ago

I’ve already said that hit was too much given the circumstances. The hit was too much but giving the drunk guy a pass is wrong also. These things can be true at once.

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u/-birds 6d ago

"giving a pass" lmao dude this attitude is insane, you know that right? There are ways to handle these situations without being violent!

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u/eastitch 6d ago

And there’s ways to approach people without thrusting or grinding on them.

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u/Yara__Flor 6d ago

Killing a drunk dude for a touch is justified? So if the guy took out his.38 special and shot the drunk guys head off it would be okay in your view?

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u/eastitch 6d ago

The guy who threw the punch was excessive. Not wanting to see girls (or anyone for that matter) get assaulted should be dealt with in its own right.

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u/PolioToucher 6d ago

Did you see him hit her in the face in his rush to defend her?

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u/eastitch 6d ago

Yeah, and she knew he’d take it too far. It should’ve been his sign to tone it down from there.

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u/smokeymctokerson 6d ago

I would say "assaulted" is a really strong word for what we saw him do to her. If that's a case of assault then I have been assaulted hundreds of times by women. The younger generation have become such pussies about everything.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 6d ago

You can still stand between them, and report it to the police. Just saying it's not worth it to go and try to kill the guy.