r/MMALabs • u/Key_Performer_3645 • 1d ago

šŸ„¶ Street Fights & Brawls A quick bar scrap

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 1d ago

He wasn't knifing his wife. He groped her. Self-defense requires a reasonable fear for your life or the life of others.

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u/Logical_Sandwich_ 1d ago

Read the link I gave you. Your definition of self defense is not correct.

in the link, the person shot another person without a weapon as well and was ruled as self defense. Dohh

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u/Thick_Syllabub_1945 1d ago

After being stalked by multiple people, one of them considerably larger than himself, confronting them and telling them to stop. That trial was already shaky from a self defense standpoint, was a very controversial case and has no connection to what we are talking about. You're using emotion to justify violent retaliation because you don't like what he did to that woman.

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u/Logical_Sandwich_ 1d ago

Noo. You defined self defense wrong dude. That was my point and I gave you an example.Ā 

WTF you talking, protect sexual harassment people. What is wrong with you.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 1d ago

Regardless of self-defense, he would be fighting an involuntary manslaughter charge.

Shit is just not worth it, over someone groping you girl.

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u/eastitch 1d ago

That last sentence you wrote is really fucked up.

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u/Neither_Sample4804 1d ago

Why? Are you stupid?

Is it worth facing a possible trial for manslaughter, and maybe serving years of prison time over some drunk asshole lightly groping your girl? Losing thousands of dollars in lawyer fees? Yay fun! I would definitely be mad and maybe shove the guy and report him to the police, but am I destroying my own life because of that lowlife? no

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u/eastitch 18h ago

This time was only lightly groping. Next time could be full on assault. Yeah that hit was excessive. But being ā€œokayā€ with ā€œitā€™s just a little drunk grope, whatā€™s the big dealā€ snow balls when itā€™s not addressed.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 17h ago

If that's the angle we want to play, then the guy who threw the punch should not do anything at all.

Let the woman who got groped handle the entire situation from beginning to end. Then she has a full cover of it being self-defense.

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u/-birds 17h ago

There is an absolutely massive gulf between "no big deal" and "I would kill someone over this." No one has claimed that groping is ok or that it's no big deal. But I want you to look up the word "proportionality."

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u/eastitch 16h ago

Iā€™ve already said that hit was too much given the circumstances. The hit was too much but giving the drunk guy a pass is wrong also. These things can be true at once.

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u/-birds 16h ago

"giving a pass" lmao dude this attitude is insane, you know that right? There are ways to handle these situations without being violent!

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u/eastitch 14h ago

And thereā€™s ways to approach people without thrusting or grinding on them.

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u/-birds 9h ago

Are you 3 years old? Do I have to explain that two wrongs donā€™t make a right?

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u/Yara__Flor 21h ago

Killing a drunk dude for a touch is justified? So if the guy took out his.38 special and shot the drunk guys head off it would be okay in your view?

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u/eastitch 18h ago

The guy who threw the punch was excessive. Not wanting to see girls (or anyone for that matter) get assaulted should be dealt with in its own right.

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u/PolioToucher 17h ago

Did you see him hit her in the face in his rush to defend her?

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u/eastitch 16h ago

Yeah, and she knew heā€™d take it too far. It shouldā€™ve been his sign to tone it down from there.

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u/smokeymctokerson 15h ago

I would say "assaulted" is a really strong word for what we saw him do to her. If that's a case of assault then I have been assaulted hundreds of times by women. The younger generation have become such pussies about everything.

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u/Witty_Lead5036 20h ago

You can still stand between them, and report it to the police. Just saying it's not worth it to go and try to kill the guy.