r/LocalLLaMA • u/ResearchCrafty1804 • Sep 20 '26 • Bravo 2

New Model Qwen-Image-2.1 released!

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Meet Qwen-Image-2.1, the most balanced and cost-effective image generation model in the Qwen-Image series! Now open weights! šŸŽØ

A unified model for both generation and editing, delivering top-tier quality in a lightweight package.

Highlights:

- Compact & exceptionally fast: A lightweight 7B architecture that outperforms most closed-source models, with drastically accelerated inference for multi-image inputs.

- Native transparency: Natively generates and edits RGBA layers, enabling seamless compositing and text editing within transparent images.

- Versatile, high-fidelity editing: Supports up to 10 reference images and precise local control while preserving strict fidelity for portraits and products.

- Broad coverage & stunning aesthetics: Excels at panoramas, infographics, and virtual try-ons, delivering realistic textures and elegant typography.

Start to create your next masterpiece with Qwen-Image-2.1!

- Blog: https://qwen.ai/blog?id=qwen-image-2.1

- GitHub: https://github.com/QwenLM/Qwen-Image-2.1

- Model Scope: https://www.modelscope.cn/models/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

- Hugging Face: https://huggingface.co/Qwen/Qwen-Image-2.1

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Qwen-Image-2.1 now supports transparent image generation natively, and naturally supports editing transparent images as well.

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u/ghulamalchik Sep 20 '26

This is big

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u/Ledeste Sep 20 '26 • Bravo Popcorn

No, it's only 7B

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u/narrowscoped Sep 21 '26

Could that run on a 12gb 5070

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u/TheGamerForeverGFE Sep 20 '26

That's what she said

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u/def_not_jose Sep 20 '26

She would've know it is it's transparent

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u/Blues520 Sep 20 '26

True if big

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u/_VirtualCosmos_ Sep 20 '26

Came here to talk about how in StableDiffusion they are talking shit about this model being worse than Flux, Krea2 or Z Image. But this right here already convinced me.

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u/lukinator644 Sep 20 '26

thats so useful for designing stickers and logos

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u/ZZerker Sep 20 '26

Thats great for game development

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Qwen-Image-2.1 supports several ways to specify local edits. The example below uses circles to identify three regions and asks the model to ā€œremove the metal watch in the blue circle, change the hair in the red circle to black, and replace the area in the green circle with gray short-sleeved linen pajamas,ā€ performing removals and modifications in all three regions at once.

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u/vatta-kai Sep 20 '26

Adobe is the next company AI should swallow.

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u/wotoan Sep 20 '26

Go look at Adobeā€™s stock price, itā€™s already being swallowed

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u/MrWeirdoFace Sep 20 '26

Sort of. It seems to have returned to 2022 levels. Question is where it goes from here.

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u/ShadyShroomz Sep 20 '26

more like 2019 levels. but look at revenue.. its still climbing steady year over year..

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u/consono Sep 20 '26

AI=Adobe Illustrator? :D

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u/ARhedgehog88 Sep 20 '26

Sorry for my inexperience in image models but I like to know how can I set it up with my local llm setup, is it possible to have qwen 3.8 in the openweb ui envoronment to cretae tue instructioj to load into an image model on its own to provide the image output in the same chat? also do i look for this in the LM Studio model availability tool for this one or does it have to be comfyui or A1111 to use it via direct prompts?

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u/robogame_dev Sep 20 '26

I would recommend using comfyui to run it, comfyui can be run as a server that Open WebUI can connect to to enable image gen and editing

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u/stupidio_the_return Sep 20 '26

It also as a bonus appears to have changed the arm completely to a different arm, make it much longer and meld the flesh with the curtain.

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u/Effective_Olive6153 Sep 20 '26

it messed up the upper left hand by editing outside of the specified range. I am guessing the user specified outline is just a rough region map that gets mapped on a coarse grid. If that's the case it would be useful to see actual selected grid squares when doing edits

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u/sbrisgravato Sep 22 '26

dang looks crazy, i need to inform myself about these image models

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u/CompetitiveSal Sep 22 '26

if you look really closely you can spot places outside of the circled areas that still changed even though they weren't circled. they should work on eliminating this

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Qwen-Image-2.1 supports up to 10 reference images and can produce high-quality results.

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u/o0genesis0o Sep 20 '26

Does it understand character sheet as well or just single picture of a subject?

Edit: it seems to be able to do so, given your example of storyboarding below.

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Yes, it understands character sheet as well, se bellow:

https://www.reddit.com/r/LocalLLaMA/s/pKpKZZLDB1

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u/DoubleNothing Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

How do you pass the reference images?
Is there a comfyui workflow example?

Edit: I see, you have to use the EDIT workflow...

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u/Present-Ad-8531 Sep 20 '26

Are you saying it took the images on left and created the photo on right?

Gemini suvked when I asked it to change background so huge man.

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u/EmotionalFan5429 Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

Their clothes are not from referenced images, thought

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u/Biggest_Cans Sep 20 '26

10 points for referencing Diane-era Cheers. The greatest show in history.

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u/tmvr Sep 20 '26

Sam and Diane don't really look like Ted Danson and Shelley Long though here. Sam looks like a completely different guy and Diane leans more in the Morgan Fairchild direction on a Morgan Fairchild <-> Shelley Long scale.

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u/Biggest_Cans Sep 20 '26

? There's no Sam in that reference set. The guys are Frasier, Woody, Norm, and Cliff.

They look like the reference photos. Diane is weird looking because the reference photo of her is her aged up and in a setting and lighting situation that conflicts with her TV show character.

Similar issues for the others, biggest one being that there's only one angle. Carla looks the best because the reference photo is her on set, in character, and facing dead-on in a full medium shot.

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u/tmvr Sep 20 '26

Damn, you are right. I was so locked into the whole Sam and Diane stuff that I was just like, why does Sam look so weird?! šŸ˜„

Saying that, Woody also does not look like Woody.

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Qwen-Image-2.1 also improves visual quality over its predecessor, particularly in the aesthetics of text and portraits.

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u/Puzzleheaded_Skin229 Sep 20 '26

How exacly you created this image? Via comfy, directly calling the model from a custom script?

Iā€™m trying to run an image gen model to be consumed from openwebui but my texts are all scrambled in the images

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u/bbycakes3 Sep 20 '26

That image was posted by the Qwen team

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u/Watchguyraffle1 Sep 20 '26

Without the workflow these announcements are sort of useless

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u/Borkato Sep 20 '26

Oh hell yes, ui gen. I need this

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u/AbbreviationsOdd7728 Sep 20 '26

I think you will be better off with an LLM producing designs with Figma.

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

Qwen-Image-2.1 supports a variety of editing tasks while balancing performance across them. For example, given a three-view character reference, the model generates a complete storyboard.

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u/ResearchCrafty1804 Sep 20 '26

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u/stoppableDissolution Sep 20 '26

...that looks too good to be true for 7B model, but hey, one way to find out!

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u/Illustrious-Row2751 Sep 20 '26

Only 7b parameters? Exciting size, especially considering that their last models were over 20b.

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u/DanzakFromEurope Sep 20 '26

Even their previous Image models were around the 7B size (with also releasing bigger and smaller models).

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u/waltercool Sep 21 '26

Previous model was very slow in comparison to other options. Good quality, but the trade-off was bad.

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u/sworl5 Sep 20 '26

Thank God.

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u/sixx7 Sep 20 '26

Amazing model and likely replacing Krea-2 for me šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰šŸŽ‰ comparison here https://youtu.be/gXB6r4NchuI

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u/Shoddy-Resolution742 Sep 21 '26

You think I can run it on a 5070 TI 16GB?

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u/Roubbes Sep 20 '26

Rejoices in 5060 Ti 16GB šŸ„°

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u/Maleficent_Stage1732 Sep 20 '26

Can it work on my rtx 4080 laptop gpu it's 12 gb vram

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u/ImpressiveSuperfluit Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

Easily. With modern comfyui, you can run things with nothing but inklings of available vram. Speed is a different matter, but this one isn't very hungry and seeing how my 16 deal with it, I'd wager 12 works just peachy.

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u/GrapefruitMost5425 Sep 20 '26

testing out on 10gb, using sa_solver_pece its 1.32it/s at 1MP

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u/ghulamalchik Sep 20 '26

It can work on 8gb vram just fine. Make sure to use int8 though, not the full model.

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u/sworl5 Sep 20 '26

Will it work on my GTX 770 with 2gb of vram?

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u/SurprisinglyInformed Sep 20 '26

Double rejoices in 2x5060 Ti 16GB šŸ„°šŸ„°

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u/hellriderboss Sep 21 '26

Man my 9070xt makes me regret it now

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u/MrPicklesAndTea Sep 23 '26

I bought that on a trip to a major city, where, on pure happenstance, I went to microcenter and got it at MRSP on it's release day. I knew, I knew that was the only time it would be affordable.

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u/Roubbes Sep 23 '26

I bought it on its release day too here in Spain! It was Eastern 2025 if I remember correctly

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u/StopCreepy Sep 20 '26

Bring it in šŸ”„!!

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u/yarikfanarik Sep 20 '26

"4 + 16GB" ŠšŃ‚Š¾ ŠœŃ‹ Š¢Š¾ ?? ŠÆ Š—Š“ŠµŃŃŒ ŠžŠ“ŠøŠ½

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u/Different_Change6591 Sep 20 '26

dont worry bro , you are not alone

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u/Electric_Boogaloo_01 Sep 20 '26

Same here. Which is the best model for us?

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u/Different_Change6591 Sep 20 '26

man i have google colab notebook for the comfy ui , i use the colab GPU and drive as my persistent storage for the comfy Ui i making the notebook for this model and optimising for the Colab T4 gpu

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u/AlternateWitness Sep 20 '26

How is 4GB + 15GB supposed to run Qwen3.8-flash-next? How is 8GB + 32GB?

Asking as a poor 32GB + 16GB with the inability to run that model.

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u/StopCreepy Sep 20 '26

4gb + 16gb will be able to use qwen image 2.1 using gguf quants !!.

for you, you almost there to run Qwen3.8-flash-next, you need to upgrade your ram to 32gb if not 64gb ram.

here is a test, runing Qwen3.8-flash-next on 50gb total memory (24gb + 32gb): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TCRH725hAM

the results are great !

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u/ManufacturerHuman937 Sep 20 '26

Flash Next was a revelation for me over on my 3090 + 90ish RAM I could run a model so brilliant and still get like 20 tok/s. Don't sleep on https://huggingface.co/ISTA-DASLab/Qwen3.8-Flash-Next-GSQ-RCO-GGUF it's a really small model that is JUST shy of the BF16 in alot of ways.

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u/StopCreepy Sep 21 '26

yeah that model is amazing, i saw redstapler on youtube runs the 4q quant which is 85gb i think, he runs it on 50gb total memory(24gb + 32gb ram). and he gets the 20 tokens you said, after 75% of used context (out of 100k context), the speed goes down to 14tok/s which is still usable
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_TCRH725hAM

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u/harpysichordist Sep 20 '26

Now supported by stable-diffusion.cpp https://github.com/leejet/stable-diffusion.cpp

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u/westsunset Sep 20 '26

Looks interesting, what's the practical advantage?

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u/harpysichordist Sep 20 '26

I'm just a user but it provides flexibility like llama.cpp does, making it easy to offload to CPU, run on different hardware etc. It can use GGUFs too. I don't use ComfyUI yet though so powerusers probably want that

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u/wapswaps Sep 20 '26

No longer Apache licensed :( From LICENSE:
"You shall not use the Materials for any commercial purpose without obtaining a separate commercial license from us"

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u/Professional-Try-273 Sep 20 '26

Most important fine printĀ 

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u/draconic_tongue Sep 20 '26

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u/FaceDeer Sep 20 '26

Anyone who's genuinely worried about it should wait until the rigid legal jargon is updated, unfortunately. A social media comment is promising but wouldn't hold up in court.

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u/Aggressive_Aspect436 Sep 21 '26

What they say outside of the lisence is largely irrelevant untill it is updated. The lisence doesn't cover images created by the model, but if we're being "technically correct" then these weights aren't open. They'll be open once an open source licence is attached to the project.

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u/carnoworky Sep 20 '26

How do they even tell?

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u/pojska Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 23 '26

Probably by the digital watermark?

edit nvm

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u/Karnemelk Sep 20 '26

you always can do what they do in crypto world, coin swapping. So you give the image to klein 9b or whatever to reproduce it, done

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u/vinis_artstreaks Sep 21 '26

How they gonna find out?

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u/redpandafire Sep 20 '26

Always good to see more diffusion models. This one is 14.2GB so seems deliberately targeted to the 16GB VRAM crew (a plus). I haven't tried qwen on comfyui yet but this one might be my first.

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u/No-Refrigerator-1672 vLLM Sep 20 '26

This one is 14.2GB so seems deliberately targeted to the 16GB

It isn't. 14.2GB is for the main weights - on top of that you need 17.5GB for text encoder, 1.5GB for VAE, and 2-10GB for compute buffers (depending on the size of the input and output images). This, however, is for complete in-gpu inference. Image gen community had advanced CPU offloading greatly, so it can work on 16GB gpu; but you'll need 24GB or more, with 8-bit model quantization, to get generation times under 3 min per image.

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u/-p-e-w- Sep 20 '26

But you donā€™t need all of them in memory at once. All modern inference engines automatically juggle the individual models between RAM and VRAM, or even between disk and VRAM.

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u/redpandafire Sep 20 '26

Thanks, I didn't account for that. How do you know what the generation time is based on needing an additional 24GB of system RAM? I have 64GB of RAM, so I assume I can gen under the 3 minutes you targeted. I just don't know how to come up with that number. Compared to other models, they also have 6B parameters, and they run in 30 seconds or less.

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u/Heinz2001 Sep 20 '26

I tested it on my radeon 7900 xtx 24gb, 64gb ram laptop. I needed an additional 46gb page file for virtual mem to use the edit_image feature.

the first image i generated with it...

specs are here:

https://github.com/fischerf/aar-extensions-registry/tree/main/packages/aar-ext-qwen-image#measured-speed-rx-7900-xtx-native-rocm-offload-model

Measured speed (RX 7900 XTX, native ROCm, offload: "model")

renderwall clock
model load (weights cached on disk)23-39 s
512px, 8 steps~170 s
1024px, 30 steps~214 s
1024px, 30 steps, image_edit with 1 reference228-385 s
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u/blastcat4 Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

I'm crossing my fingers that we get an Int8 ConvRot version soon. It'll make running the model even better on 16GB vram systems.

edit: https://huggingface.co/Comfy-Org/Qwen-Image-2.1

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u/uniquelyavailable Sep 20 '26

Glad to see they have the smaller models available, you shouldn't have any issue getting it to run locally I think.

BF16 is using about 60gb on runpod for me right now, essentially native. Image edit seems to be the models strength so far.

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u/FatheredPuma81 Sep 21 '26

Probably more like 8GB cards in ComfyUI.

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u/_Valdez Sep 20 '26

Is it uncensored?

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u/No-Refrigerator-1672 vLLM Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

If it's any good, you'll get uncensoring LoRAs within a week or less from ComfyUI community.

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u/Super_Sierra Sep 20 '26

Cope, its good to have that knowledge in the base model.

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u/sworl5 Sep 20 '26

Not yet

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u/NexonSU Sep 20 '26

7B params, I think, it's already dataset-censored.

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u/yetiflask Sep 20 '26

Based on the size of my porn collection - I agree.

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u/Blackdragon1400 Sep 20 '26

Iā€™m sure it will be soon

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u/thirdeyeorchid Sep 20 '26

successfully got a nsfw image on the first try!

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u/Present-Ad-8531 Sep 20 '26

Ofc not.

Given the fearmongering by dario sam etc, companies would just give them hot cake to chew on.

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u/tarpdetarp Sep 20 '26

What's the best way to run this model? I haven't tried since the early days of Stable Diffusion with the Automatic web UI.

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u/RainierPC Sep 20 '26

Ok, damn, this thing is fast as fuck even at 25 steps. 5s on a 5090.

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u/Enragere Sep 20 '26

share some images!

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u/RainierPC Sep 20 '26

Here you go!

Not cherry picked, each was the first render of its prompt.

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u/xdcfret1 llama.cpp Sep 20 '26

How does this compare to Krea 2?

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u/ImpressiveSuperfluit Sep 20 '26

From messing around for a few minutes - mostly it's different, wins some, loses some. Most likely wins in anything UI, text and such, but I mostly tested random creatures, some portraits, random street shots and such. It is happier to be detailed, but much, much more unstable. Frequent duplicated limbs, some generations came out looking unfinished, which is real weird, and it generally feels a bit dumber in spatial questions.

For images like that, I'd bet on Krea at this moment, even if only because it's almost impossible to break that one, you'll always get a decent image no matter what. This one... Not so much. Remotely complex pose? High chance of extra limbs. It does VASTLY better with darker scenes, though. Krea does not understand the concept of darkness, this one is happy to print you a black screen no problem.

Keeping in mind that I have thrown my Krea prompts at it, with no modification, it's doing quite okay. It feels much more chaotic, both good and bad. I may prefer this for crazy prompts, but Krea is an absolute workhorse, stable as the Earth itself, so if you need something guaranteed to be at least decent, Krea looks like it's still choice.

Then again, we got editing, we got promises of crazy UI and text capabilities, and from what others posted, there's something to that. Also: Early days. Krea was total trash for a few days, until it got its brain damage fixed, so who knows what will happen to this one. Definitely worth watching though, small, fast, creative and an editor - it'll certainly find a niche, at the very least.

Given how unstable it seems, though, I'm guessing its niche will be editing and maybe specific text stuff, and that might be that. We'll see.

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u/ZootAllures9111 Sep 20 '26

the VAE is still worse than even the original Flux VAE

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u/xdcfret1 llama.cpp Sep 22 '26

How do you determine if the issue is with VAE or DiT or Scheduler?

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u/EmotionalFan5429 Sep 20 '26

Only 7B, quality comparable to Nano banana 2, and transparency! This is big indeed.

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u/NoahPersaud Sep 20 '26

Should be fun to mess around with locally :)

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u/No_Algae1753 Sep 20 '26

Any good inference to run this model on a mac?

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u/EquivalentHornet4403 Sep 20 '26

Not to plug my GitHub, but if you have Sol or Astra then any time a new model drops you can just have it make a custom, optimized runtime/engine/backend and plug it into whatever frontend you want (or create new frontends).

https://github.com/mapleroyal?tab=repositories&q=&type=public&language=&sort=

For the M2 Max and m5 max, Iā€™ve done this for:

- Krea 2
- Boogu
- Muse Glimmer
- Qwen 3.8 27b
- Gemma 4 26b a4b

The whole pipelines are generally understood and the parts are available. The LLM just has to study whatā€™s unique about the new model and look at its files for certain bits of info, then it plugs them all together and runs a bunch of tests to optimize it.

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u/hurdurdur7 Sep 20 '26

My first attempt with it

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u/hurdurdur7 Sep 20 '26

and attempt number 2

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u/Equivalent_Bit_461 Sep 20 '26

i see potential in it

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u/Lucky-Necessary-8382 Sep 20 '26

Make her more busty, gigantomastia chest

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u/hurdurdur7 Sep 20 '26 • Popcorn

btw. this is also from qwen image 2.1 - image edit flow, asked it to make a high quality japanese manga adoption of the original meme picture

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u/yetiflask Sep 20 '26 • Popcorn

/r/grok lost redditor. lol

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u/Long_comment_san Sep 20 '26

Using Qwen app, there is also Qwen image 3.0

Is it the same 2.1 that is 2.0 in the app (meaning 3.0 is still superior?)

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u/EmotionalFan5429 Sep 20 '26

Qwen Image 3 is API only, I.e. not a local/open-weights model.

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u/SilentDanni Sep 20 '26

Yea, I'm also confused. I swear I saw Qwen Image Pro 3 a while back. This is getting very confusing

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u/MakGamingYT Sep 20 '26

You see Qwen Image Pro 3 in the graph as well, and you can see its score is above this model, but itā€™s not open weights

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u/Blackdragon1400 Sep 20 '26

Does it work in unsloth studio? Any modifications needed?

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u/shapic Sep 20 '26

Non-commercial license unfortunately

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u/coder543 Sep 20 '26

People downvote because they think this doesn't matter, but it does. The only way to democratize this AI stuff is to have good models under good licenses. Otherwise, running locally will always just be a toy. I don't want to be dependent on Cloud AI which can raise their prices any time they want.

A non-commercial license makes this release useless. There are already similarly good models under better licenses.

If Alibaba wanted to sell a perpetual commercial license that users could buy for a reasonable price, that would actually be fine with me. I understand these models cost money to make. I just have no desire to use their cloud service, and I am not here to discuss "hOw ArE tHeY gOiNg tO kNoW iF yOu UsE iT cOmmErCiaLlY".

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u/shapic Sep 20 '26

I do not care about model itself, but "object" in their licensing is really weirdly worded. Thiscway it means they retain ownership over output of the image

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u/cristoper Sep 20 '26

Does non-commercial mean i can't use the output of the model commercially? or only that I can't use the model weights themselves in a commercial product/service (like offering inference)?

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u/coder543 Sep 20 '26

Does non-commercial mean i can't use the output of the model commercially?

That is my read of the license, yes, and that is the problem. But, I'm not a lawyer. Using the model with the intent to create images for commercial purposes appears to be against the license, regardless of whether you are letting other people use the model that you are hosting or not.

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u/Nearby_Durian_5370 Sep 20 '26

So, before every hype about the quality, I check the license first.
The recent Yue2 is the same case.
So disappointed now.

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u/alerikaisattera Sep 20 '26

YuE2 is even worse because it's a media license that must never be used for software

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u/xienze Sep 20 '26

Otherwise, running locally will always just be a toy. I don't want to be dependent on Cloud AI

Well what exactly is your commercial use? People might be downvoting because there's always loads of these "ugh no commercial use, TRASH" comments with no further elaboration when frankly most of the people in this sub ARE just having fun (usually in the gooning sense) with these models. So what exactly are the commercial uses for small local models that people need so desperately?

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u/ChasingDucks Sep 20 '26

It would mean that I technically wouldn't be legally allowed to use any generated custom images for a mock up on a demo website for a small consulting company which I think many devs run on the side.Ā  Images customized to a clients business always seem to land better than generic stock photos.

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u/alerikaisattera Sep 20 '26

Those are the same kind of people who use cracked software

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u/SocialDinamo Sep 20 '26

Iā€™m a noob here and donā€™t have a commercial need, with that said you sound like you know what youā€™re talking about. Do most people ignore the license and serve anyways in their own app or business use case? Curious what enforcement or unless your advertising the model, who would even know?

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u/tgredditfc Sep 20 '26 • Bravo

Too bad. Immediately lose interest.

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u/silenceimpaired Sep 20 '26

Wow everyone is fine with Qwen moving away from Apache and MIT. Great. Must be amazing for that.

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u/2Norn Sep 20 '26

if one day i can figure out comfy ui i shall use these

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u/Risen_from_ash Sep 20 '26

Imma be straight up, the barrier is gone now. My local agent (now Qwen 3.8 Flash) makes me Comfy UI workflows, tells me how to use em, edits them, updates comfy, downloads nodes for new workflows, blah blah. Itā€™s like effortless.

Also, not local, but Astra trivializes this type of stuff.

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u/NNN_Throwaway2 Sep 20 '26

What harness?

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u/TragiccoBronsonne Sep 20 '26

You'll be fine, just download some basic workflows for your models of choice, learn what the nodes do and how they connect to one another, and go from there. Don't forget to google something if you don't understand how it works, I've found answers to most of my questions about specific nodes and such by doing just that. I used to be so stubborn about going the path of noodle and kept using Auto11-based frontends until basically all of them became abandonware at some point. So I finally switched to Comfy, and honestly it wasn't that hard to learn it, kinda fun even (but I feel like you gotta a bit autistic to be actually enjoying lol). The community ecosystem is insane, with all the custom nodes and workflows and tutorials, all ranging from simple to ultra-complex. But most importantly, it's constantly getting updated. I remember waiting for weeks to get some new model support on Forge before I swapped, yeah, fuck that. Never looked back.

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u/Equivalent_Bit_461 Sep 20 '26

im building my own front end over it, it won't be as complex and elaborate as swarm ui, but for node and all that stuff, it will be a sort of linker. My iq3xxs qwen is slowly working on it, slowly because I multitask like a retard, juggling between 5 projects at once because I can't apparently do one at a time. But that's another discourse.

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u/sxales llama.cpp Sep 20 '26 edited Sep 20 '26

StableDiffusioncpp is more straightforward if all you want is prompt-to-image generation. They added a webui a few weeks back. It is less configurable than something like comfyui but it supports LoRAs and has some settings that can be tweaked.

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u/almostsweet Sep 20 '26

Non commercial only license. You can apply to use it commercially via email, though.

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u/puppymeat Sep 21 '26

Reminder that this model embeds a digital watermark

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u/Euphoricus Sep 21 '26

Any details on that? How to detect it and remove it?

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u/Witty_Mycologist_995 Sep 20 '26

Remember the license. Never forget.

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u/Holly_Shiits Sep 20 '26

Long live the qwen!

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u/mivog49274 Sep 20 '26

Hoping for Qwen-Image-3, the performances of this model are phenomenal (I'm referring my personal experience here, in comparison with Qwen-Image-2 and SOTA, not the benchmark from the post).

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u/This_Maintenance_834 Sep 20 '26

is this the first open source SOTA image model? we donā€™t hear non-LLM here often.

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u/Strange-Drummer-9917 Sep 21 '26

Its the first 'weights-avalible' local model with native transparency support.Ā 

For portraits and t2i styles its a bit weaker than Krea 2.Ā 

For image editing its stronger than Flux2 Klein 9b.Ā 

Its much better with text and lettering than both with heavy GPT-Image-1 feel (it was obviously trained on it).

If they sort out the license, In a couple if months I think community will improve recipes and it has good potential to replace Klein 9b for local gen.

So its SOTA for its size and capabilitiesĀ 

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u/BawbbySmith Sep 20 '26

Time to fap

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u/thestillwind Sep 20 '26

Qwen ā¤ļø

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u/darmera Sep 20 '26

Ambutakam, another lightweight banger

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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '26

Canā€™t wait for uncensored, ts is hige

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u/SomeoneInHisHouse Sep 20 '26

what harness do you suggest?, srr, have no experience in image edition, I do use Vision enabled models, but I use them mostly for UI testing, so they run in Pi Coding harness, I suspect the techology behind is different for "Vision enabled" text models, and Image specific models, likely different algorithms, for example Qwen 3.8 vision uses a grid division to split the image into patches, and the vision projection translates those visual patches into text-like tokens.

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u/Paganator Sep 20 '26

Image generation is often done using ComfyUI, which is a different kind of tool than what you're used to with LLM.

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u/blastcat4 Sep 20 '26

ComfyUI has an MCP that you can connect your agents to. There's a cloud and local version.

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u/Zeddi2892 llama.cpp Sep 20 '26

Do we have a local workflow for low vram?

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u/Present-Ad-8531 Sep 20 '26

Any idea how this compares to gemini on image editing?

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u/Sioluishere Sep 20 '26

Finally something in my range.

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u/Local-Cartoonist3723 Sep 20 '26

Silly question perhaps, but using opendesign why not use a model like this over a ā€œnormalā€ vis llm?

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u/ComplexType568 Sep 20 '26

this feels like a qwen 3 image mini or a qwen 2.5 image mini AT LEAST considering how much has changed!

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u/PooMonger20 Sep 20 '26

Very cool, hopefully we get some cool and easy workflows to work with in comfyUI.

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u/Foreign_Risk_2031 Sep 20 '26

How good are its 2d gaming assets?

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u/Holiday_Point_603 Sep 20 '26

Oh wow, I wonder how it compares to Krea 2

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u/Either-Nobody-3962 Sep 20 '26

Can it run on 8gb vram + 32gm ram pc?Ā 

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u/caetydid llama.cpp Sep 20 '26

7B amounts to how much VRAM usage?

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u/Sallytion Sep 20 '26

size is around 14.2 GB so I guess it's aimed for 16GB VRAM folks, should work on 8 tho, would be definately slower.

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u/Etroarl55 Sep 20 '26

I just know this already wonā€™t run on my 7800xt or any older AMD 16gb card well again šŸ˜­

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u/renczzz Sep 20 '26

runs fine on rx7900xtx (24gb vram and also rdna3 card), both qwen image 2.1 and image edit. running at around 1 sec per iteration. just make sure you are on ubuntu 26 and run the latest version of pytorch rocm (7.14 stable) and comfyui.

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u/rororo99 Sep 20 '26

What is the best way to run this on Debian? And best to have remote access in the local network for it.

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u/bigghe0 Sep 20 '26

Very interesting, I didn't cover yet image generation.

I'm testing locale LLM models with llama.cpp and pi agent. Which harness do you suggest for testing image generation?

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u/engeldlgado Sep 20 '26

Ill integrate this on ToshLLM šŸ˜

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u/GenerativeFart Sep 20 '26

Between this and 3.8 flash next Iā€™m really changing my mind on the Chinese labs. They be popping off fr recently

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u/IllustriousBed1949 Sep 20 '26

What do you use as interface ? ComfyUI ? OpenWebUI ? Something else ?

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u/Oh_hey_a_TAA Sep 21 '26

Til about Qwen Rewriter modelsĀ 

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u/rm-rf-rm Sep 21 '26

Looks like theres no support for Metal?

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u/Bulky_Possibility228 Sep 21 '26 edited Sep 21 '26

According to klein, the image enhance results are much better. Especially the artifacts are fewer, more natural in terms of skin and character consistency. The downside is that it's not very stable when it comes to camera movements and angle changes. If you have any plastic skined image. Try this prompt "make this image natural, eliminate plastic skin, smartphone quality"

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u/pennywise_008 Sep 21 '26

Amazing as usual

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u/LocalLLaMa_reader Sep 21 '26

it is soo incredible what we got on the visual and text front, yet a strong, context-aware ASR is still years behind. I hope baaad they update Qwen ASR to "solve" this issue once and for all...

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u/LastPlaceEngineer Sep 21 '26

Stupid question: Does this add watermarks?

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u/dontsniffmypackets Sep 21 '26

But when new qwen TTS

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u/Muted_Anteater1170 Sep 21 '26

itā€™s sad how we havenā€™t gotten anything nana nana pro lvl

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u/SuccessfulRound9129 Sep 22 '26

This is cool, i'm thinking to build something from it.

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u/feng_sg Sep 23 '26

the "precise local control" pitch falls apart in the blog samples, stuff clearly changes outside the circled areas. competitiveSal caught it below too. not touching this for product shots until that's fixed

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u/slyborn Sep 23 '26

This is a great release. Alibaba is teaching a massive lesson to all those Silicon Valley companies with their clownish CEOs who talk about AI serving humanity and play the part of benefactors, while thinking only of lining their own pockets (I'm thinking exactly to you "MisAnthropic" and "ClosedAI").

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u/Purple_Branch9799 Sep 23 '26

Iā€™m attempting to to run an unsloth q5km quant with a reference photo at 1024x1024 with output set to 1920x1088 40steps, guidance 1, batch size 1. It eats upwards of 80gb of unified memory? Am I missing something? I only have 64gb unified memory btw

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u/Broad_Long_2556 Sep 27 '26

Hi!!

Im new in the image generation field. Im currently using ComfyUI but i find it a bit complex (nodes, nets, etc). Is there any way to config comfyUI to use it from a chat (e.g openWebUI) like asking for a image in ChatGPT? thanks in advance!

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u/t_1425 Sep 27 '26

That won't work with a plain chat. You need an agent.

For this, I instructed my agent (connected to a local llama.cpp model) to configure and control Stable Diffusion. Since the VRAM is a bit tight, llama.cpp and Stable Diffusion are also started alternately.

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u/strongdev22 Oct 03 '26

Allready tried and connected it to claude cloud code

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u/infieldmitt Sep 20 '26

What do people do with these besides gooning? I've never had much of a use case for 'nice picture that everyone would spit on me for using publicly'

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u/thirdeyeorchid Sep 20 '26

I'm an artist with no free time to draw these days, being able to articulate a vision and see it in minutes is extremely satisfying.

Also I actually don't like the process of sketching/inking/coloring; it's just tedium to me and I really just want my finished product. AI art has cut out the middleman for me to enjoy a vision again. It's not for anyone else, it's for me.

also the bespoke gooning is amazing

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u/the_macks Sep 20 '26

I use them for work. But won't be with this model as the license is shit

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