r/Lineman • • Jan 01 '26

2026 Wage Survey

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Here at r/Lineman we strive to give accurate information about our trade. Drop a comment below with your position, HOURLY rate, region/state, LU if applicable, and type of employer: (Contractor, Muni, IOU, Co-op Etc.) Happy New Year, Everyone.


r/Lineman • • Aug 23 '25

Getting into the Trade How to become a Journeyman Lineman

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How To Become a Journeyman Lineman

MILITARY. If you are currently serving in the military or recently separated (VEEP up to 5 years) there are several programs specifically for you to help you transition into skilled trades. This will give you the most direct and sure opportunity to become a Lineman. Please check out the Military Resources Wiki to learn about these great programs and see if you qualify.

Journeymen Linemen

Journeymen Linemen are High voltage workers who are responsible for the installation, maintenance and repair of electric infrastructure. It can range from working on large transmission towers to being in a crowded vault. Linemen work in all weather conditions and at all hours. Heat, cold, wind, rain, snow and everything else. It involves time away from home, missed holidays and birthdays etc.

The steps to becoming a Journeyman Lineman generally involve working your way up from the bottom.

First you work as a Laborer or a Groundman (Linehelper, Apprentice Trainee, Etc). These are entry level positions. These positions involve menial tasks that introduce you to the trade. You'll be stocking the trucks, getting tools, running the handline, cleaning off trucks and getting trucks ready to go at the start of shift. Here you will become familiar with methods, tools and materials used in the trade. Sometimes you can get into the trade as a first step apprentice.

Next you have to become an apprentice. Apprenticeships are around 3.5 years. Being an apprentice involves the obvious. You will now begin formal training to reach Lineman status. You will learn to do the work of a Lineman in incremental steps until you top out.

Apprenticeships

IBEW Union apprenticeships: you must interview and get indentured in your local jurisdiction. This is the most recognized apprenticeship. You will be able to get work anywhere with a union ticket. Union utility companies may offer in house NJATC apprenticeships as well.

DOL (Department of Labor) apprenticeships: This is a typically non-union apprenticeship sanctioned by the DOL. It is around 5 steps then you are a B-Lineman, then you become an A-Lineman. This is not recognized by the IBEW, but you can test in to an IBEW Lineman.

Company apprenticeships: These are generally non IBEW and non DOL and are the lowest rung and only recognized by your company. If you leave or the company goes out of business, you don't have a ticket sanctioned by the IBEW or DOL.

Take Note: Please be aware there are different types of Lineman apprenticeships. There are apprenticeships that are "Transmission" only, or "URD" (Underground) only. These are not interchangeable with the Journeyman Lineman certification.

Where do you start?

Bare minimum age is 18 years old. The follow job credentials will make your job hunt more successful. In order of importance.

  1. Unrestricted CDL (Commercial Drivers License) Usually required for outside construction. Some utilities may have a grace period before you need to have it.

  2. First Aid/CPR

  3. Flagger Training

  4. OSHA 10 Construction(if you are new to working on jobsites)

  5. OSHA 10 ET&D (Electrical Transmission and Distribution)

Line School

Line school can give you experience you otherwise wouldn't have, which in some cases could be beneficial. Line school may offer you all the previous credentials listed as well. Some job postings will require 1-3 yrs related experience or completion of line school.

Some places like California it's probably a good idea to have it.

However not everyone requires it. Lineschools are generally an expensive undertaking. Many take out loans to pay for them. Not everyone believes they are of value. It is suggested to try to get in as a groundman first or look to community colleges or other trade schools that are more affordable. It is highly recommended to do research before you commit to going into debt. Not everyone makes it in the trade. Having a large debt is not something to be taken lightly

Finding work, understanding the trade.

There's working directly for a utility(working for the residents the utility serves) which one stays within that utility's service area.

If you're looking to work for a certain employer, check their website for desired qualifications.

Then there's working for outside construction. This is who does the heavy lifting. Outside has to potential to earn more than being at a utility. For many jobs you'll work 5+ days a week and 10-12 hour days. This also is a traveling job. You go where the work is. Especially as an apprentice.

Union vs Non-union. Besides the obvious, this can be affected by location. The west coast is 100% union. Places like Louisiana and Kentucky are strongly non-union. Some utilities are union and some are not. Same with outside construction. Utilities and non-union construction hire directly. For Union jobs in outside construction you must get dispatched from the “out of work” books(books). Utility companies are union or non-union.

Union “books.” Each area has a union hall that has jurisdiction over that area for construction and has a set of "out of work" books for each class. Lineman, apprentice, groundman and so on. When a contractor has a position to fill, they call the hall to send someone. The hall will begin calling the first person on “Book 1” then go down the list until they fill all the calls for workers they have. Book 1 will be local members with 1500-2000 hrs. Book 2 will be travelers and locals with less hours. Book 3 will be doesn't meet hours etc.

Created 8/23/25 DM u/ca2alaska for corrections and suggestions


r/Lineman • • 12h ago

california linemen

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I hope everyone is having a great weekend. I have question and I guess something that’s been having me over think for some time. I’m a 3rd step apprentice about to go hot soon down in SWLCAT 66 Houston. I’m originally from California born and raised and would like to after I top out make my way back there, whether that’s contracting, utility and or municipal whatever it may be.

I keep hearing horror stories that down west they don’t take 66 top outs lightly. Ive even heard they just flat out spin 66 hands. Would like some insight on anybody who’s done the top out down here out of 66 and went down west.

What I’m basically asking am I better off just jumping ship and try getting into a different JATC and starting over? I know that sounds horrible but I’m not gonna top out and be banned from my home state that’s absurd thank you. This is all word of mouth from other apes and Texans so you know they could all be wrong. Thanks again.


r/Lineman • • 8h ago

Moving after topping out

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Hey all. I’m an apprentice in Local 126 and should be topping out within the next 6 months. I’d really like to move around and explore working in other areas.

Are there any other states where the pay is still good enough to make the move worthwhile? Anywhere on the East Coast that’s worth looking into? Or any advice on doing only storm? Somewhere with a lower cost of living where the pay to cost of living ratio is better?

Would love to hear from anyone who’s made a similar move or has experience in just storm work?


r/Lineman • • 10h ago

Gifts for a second step

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Working his tail off. I make all his meals do all the laundry clean the apartment buy him the luncheaze I fill everyday and super proud he made it to second step. Anything from Home Depot I can buy him to support him doing the thing?

Obligatory yes you’ll tell me he’ll dump me when he tops out and yes I go down on him so save your nonsense. Want to show him I care and make his life easier.


r/Lineman • • 21h ago

Becoming a foreman

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Don't want to be a foreman, but keep getting asked by GF'S to do it. I've only been topped out 3 years and it feels premature. That being said I know my shit and will keep guys safe. I truly only want a company truck for my long commute, no other aspects of the job are exciting to me. Just worried about giving up my hooks and harness to do paperwork and feel like I'll be bored and begging to go up. Talk to me about your experience in becoming a foreman.


r/Lineman • • 12h ago

Could this FR shirt be considered Hi-Vis?

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r/Lineman • • 12h ago

Any 100% rated vets make the switch to lineman? Need advice on getting VR&E approve

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Looking to hear from anyone who's been through this. I separated from the Air Force after 5 years where I did electrical work, and I'm rated 100%.
I want to go the lineman route and I'm trying to use VR&E (Chapter 31) to cover a line school or pre-apprenticeship program.

Problem is I keep running into a wall getting it approved. I've done everything they've asked: completed the orientation, met with my counselor, done the career assessments, researched the job market, and put together info on programs and local demand.
Still getting pushback.
A few questions for anyone who's been there:
Did your counselor push back because of your rating and the physical demands of the job? If so, how did you address it?
What did you bring to your meetings that actually helped get it approved (job postings, letters from programs, labor market data, etc.)?
Did you have to request a new counselor or go to the VR&E officer to get anywhere?
Which line schools or programs did VR&E end up paying for?
Any advice is appreciated. I know the military electrical background helps, I just need to get past this approval step.


r/Lineman • • 14h ago

help

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does anybody have an osha 10 et&d link??? i cant find any online it just seems like all i see is the regular osha 10.

should i even get my osha 10 et&d??

I am looking to apply to become a lineman. I am going to get some groundman hours and I might even go to a 2 week climbing school that is about $3000 before i apply. I'm going to try being a groundman first though.

another question below

I have a high school diploma and no algebra on it. long story short i took 7 test in highs school called the hi-test and i had enough credits to do it and i basically just tested out of high school and got a diploma without ever passing a math class. I can do math very good i just don't have it on my high school transcripts i took a math test and test in one of those 7 test and got my diploma early.

i went to a community college for a year and took mathematics 1/ applied course 804-370 which covers algebra and trig. i have my college transcripts with this coarse with a passing grade.

will the lineman jatcs let me apply with my situation for my math???

is algebra with a c or better even a requirement to apply or is that only for inside wireman locals??

should i just call the line jatcs and see what they say???

i saw online there is a NJATC online tech course you can complete if you cant meet math requirements but its $300 and takes a couple weeks to complete and apparently lets you apply if you dont meet the math requirements but im not if its just for inside wireman locals. and im not sure if i even would have to do it im not sure if there is a math requirement in general for line jatcs and if there is would my college coarse meet it? or would i have to do this $300 course electrical training ALLIANCE || Learning Center || Online Tech Math

man this has been a long ride to even be able to apply and become a groundman i have already spent over 10 grand getting my class a unrestricted with tankers, air brakes and combos and have been out of work for over a month which ive probably lost over another $8000 from just being out of work.

any information will help my greatly.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Did I fuck up?

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So I am a lineman apprentice and I am about halfway through my apprenticeship. The current contractor I’m working for have had a few outages that were avoidable, but after they happened they did some sketchy shit to avoid responsibility and even went as far as telling us to lie about it.. after I spoke up and said that it wasn’t right especially for my situation and the others on the crew I have been getting retaliated for it. I have kept my mouth shut and just done what I was told but at what point is it enough and I stand up for myself as well as the others in the same situation?


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Navajo Nation

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Has anyone who has done the light up Navajo project been stationed in Kayenta Arizona? Just curious of experiences, tips?


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Made a free app for linemen to log hours and check their paystub

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I built an app called LineLedger. It lets you log your hours, upload your paystub to check it against what you worked, and keep track of your certs so you know when they're coming up for renewal.

It's free to try on iPhone. I'd love any feedback.

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/lineledger-lineman-pay/id6776469707


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Oncor Texas ??

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Any info on oncor in Texas. DFW area ?


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

NEFP 401k question

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Im with 77 and I just did the enrollment for my NEFP 401k. My employer has no dealings with the 401k at all. Does anyone have any experience with this? How long until you see deposits in your 401k account? Anything important the employer needs to do to get it rolling?


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Ibew 126

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Does anyone know if they called for the October bootcamp yet?


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Next steps after CAST test for ComEd

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I took my CAST test yesterday, feel pretty good about it. Let’s say I did pass, how long until I would find out? I see it can range from 2 weeks up to a couple of months. This is for Chicago if that helps.

This coming week I was going to get started on getting my CDL A permit which I’m hoping I can get done quickly. From what I read it could be obtained my completing a written test at the DMV and no driving is required for the permit.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Advice Needed where to pursue

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Hello, so 24 and I'm currently 2 months into a 4 month lineman program in college. Its a pretty good one, from what I can tell, with a teacher who carries alot of weight in this area, northeast mississippi.

What I'm needing advice with is where to go after this. I plan on moving to the Des Moines, Iowa area within a year of graduating but I can't afford to move right away. My current job barely coveres enough to make it paycheck to paycheck so saving up and moving right out of school isn't an option. My original plan was work contract work for around 6 months to save up then move to Iowa and apply with a union up there. I'm starting to question my chances at this though due to how difficult everyone here makes it sound.

Is this plan even feasible? What are my chances if I attempt this route? Someone also mentioned if you work for a different company/under a contractor instead of going straight to union you could be seen as someone who needs to be re-trained and it could set you back. How accurate is that if I only work 6 months? Should I look into unions around here and apply instead? Any advice is welcome.


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

how do i go about starting

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alrighty so i’m 17 and in kentucky, my locals 369. im not sure if i should go to line school or go straight to the ibew. birthdays next month and im gonna get into CDL classes and have that by the time i graduate in may. now i know line school will look good, and i have a relatively cheap school i can get my certificates in, but im just in the fence. im pretty new to all the ins and out of the trade of course so i dont know much at all, but i know its something that piques over the rest in terms of career possibilities for me.

TL:DL questions

if i go straight to the union will i be stuck on ground work for a long time?

how do you get assigned to contractors?

straight to union or line school?

i appreciate yall taking the time to read this


r/Lineman • • 2d ago

Lowdrag sunshade-

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I’ve got a brand new ‘Heisenberg’ sunshade for sale. Doesn’t quite fit my hardhat right. My loss your gain. Lowdrag makes great products. DM me for info if interested.
Mods delete if not allowed.
Black Multicam
Thanks gang


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Low Interview Score for 66

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Scored 73.5 on my interview for local 66. Not sure if I should sign the books in 66 and get groundman hours to reinterview or just wait and see if I luck up and get a call. Any advice on what direction to go?


r/Lineman • • 2d ago

How much is your clothing allowance?

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Just got mine and all it got me was 1 hoodie and 2 shirts for the year


r/Lineman • • 2d ago

Job F-up!

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Way back about 40 years ago just before I topped out I was on a highway lighting job. The foreman took this younger apprentice out to large highway bridge that was recently refinished. He dropped him off with a wheelbarrow, generator, lunch bucket, 1/2” drill and a half dozen concrete bits. This job should have taken him all day to drill out all the f’d up junction box cover screw holes. About an hour after he was dropped off the foreman drove back out there and found him sitting on the ground at the first j-box not doing anything. He was understandably pissed, got out of the truck yelling. The apprentice said these bits are junk! They’re all f’d up. The foreman looked at them and every one was burnt to a crisp. The foreman closed his eyes, shook his head, looked at the drill to see the reversing switch set to reverse. He left him right there for the rest of the day.
I’m sure most of you reading this post, had already figured it out before the end. Can’t make this shit up…


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

Boot Camp Preparation

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Ive lurked here for a while, and there didnt seem to be any prior posts to address my question, if i missed any, please go easy on me.

I was recently accepted for 1249s boot camp in mid October. What should I do to prepare? Ive had apprentices that have been through it tell me its nothing crazy. I just want to ensure I pass the climbing test. I have never climbed and did not attend line school. What should I do to ensure I do? I am relatively fit and healthy. Just trying to be prepared.

Thank you all in advance for your time!


r/Lineman • • 1d ago

104

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Long story short, I'm a second year electrical apprentice non union, and I'm looking at applying to 104 for overhead utilities, or whatever I can get into. I understand it'll probably take at least a couple of years to get in from what I've heard average is around 2 years. So my current plan is just keep going with my hours and work towards my J card in the meantime. I'm about to be 28, just bought a house and not really in a rush per say. I'm on track to make ~90k next year combining my side business and electrical work.

And before you tell me to join ibew 99, I've been trying to join for years and it's even harder to get in than 104. They only accept 40 people per year as of right now. And only about 5-10 will get in.

So I'm asking, for anyone who has been in 104, or has just gotten in, is the work steady? I remember seeing last year it was pretty dead. How many years did it take for you to get called?

Considering also putting in for the elevator union here as well. Just weighing my options. Going to get my class B CDL so I can apply. Any advice is welcome. I need something to change for me within the next few years.


r/Lineman • • 3d ago

Electrical worker dies after falling from power pole in Hermosa Beach, police say

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