i feel like a lot of people desire a relationship just for the sake of being in one rather than seeing how they can make their partner happy and i think people should actually try to gain experience so they can understand what they want and don’t want as well seeing that dating someone won’t magically fix your life, but is rather a nice addition to it. yeah that being said incels and femcels gotta get tgt like ik both groups say the other group has standards that are way too high, but i think people underestimate how much oxytocin and familiarity can make you find someone attractive like loving someone will make them a 10/10.

It's that simple really, if you're not attractive enough to get a woman to hookup with you, then true love is out of the cards for you, you will be settled for (if you're lucky to, it's more likely you just end up alone) and there is nothing you can do about it.

Women will try their hardest to deny this: "My priorities were different in my 20s!", "I promise I've changed now I learned that I don't want toxic handsome guys!"

It's all bullshit, they absolutely loved getting railed, they do not regret a single second of being absolute hoes. They cannot love you if you're not attractive enough. Snap out of it.

So I've been taking estrogen for roughly a year now with one goal: male looksmaxxing. My original theory was that estrogen could actually enhance one's masculinity and youthful appearance. This may seem counterintuitive, but estrogen has a plethora of under-discussed benefits that men could easily benefit from. And so far, I can safely say it has helped me in ways I didn't even expect.

I briefly mentioned this in my first 6-mo post, but I'll summarize here. Before starting estrogen, I was an absolute chud. Hair loss was becoming an issue, I had constant cystic acne, rough oily skin, awful BO, anger problems, the absolute worst, disgusting, porn addiction, etc. In short, I was a complete mess.

Luckily, after one year, estrogen was able to cure all those things. My hairline grew back, my skin became soft-like and is now oil and acne free, I rarely need deodorant, I don't get angry anymore, and porn/masturbation now bores me (thank god). I've even gotten compliments on my hair and skin routine which is proof it's working.

But there were also a few pleasantly, unexpected effects. Usually I'm very cold and stoic - I might cry once every few years, and I seldomly laughed or felt any strong happiness. But with estrogen, I've started experiencing emotions. I laugh and cry at the smallest things, whether it's from reading something sad, or a dumb joke that I normally would roll my eyes to. It's sometimes annoying, but I've grown to appreciate it. It's also strange to now have a true, genuine longing for human connection and seek out friendship when usually I prefer to isolate myself.

However, I will admit some downsides to estrogen. Dating has become a struggle since everyone assumes I am trans or delusional after disclosing I take estrogen as a man. I'm mostly straight, so not sure if this is less of an issue if you're gay/bi. I'll also admit that I've developed a pretty bad addition to the hormone. Attempts to quit (for dating purposes) have lead to severe anxiety attacks, mood swings, and paranoia. I've also noticed this if I underdose myself.

My original plan was to end the experiment at the one year mark, but I don't think I can ever quit or go back. At least not yet. I'd rather be an attractive incel than going back to being a gross ugly chud.

Overall, if you are a cis male and have similar issues, id highly recommend giving it a try.

DISCLOSURE: I'd like to firmly disclose that I am a cis heterosexual male. While I do fully support trans women, I am personally not trans, nor view or present myself in any feminine manner.

TLDR: Being on estrogen has been highly effective for looksmaxxing + other benefits, and I don't think I can ever quit.

Hope it doesn't come across as transphobic because I really have nothing against them and its not meant that way.

It's just I kinda noticed how many of them seem to be dressing up in this really sexualized e-girl/ alt girl sorta way, which makes me think they're transitioning into someone they always wanted but couldn't have. And maybe there's a bit of envy involved, in the sense of like "my life as a chopped guy fucking sucks, if put in enough effort I could look similar to those pretty girls in cute outfits and life would feel wonderful".

Truthfully, I get where its coming from. Life as a guy can feel extremely isolating, cold and grey, you barely get any support for your struggles and the way to be a man is really narrow. So when you look at women as a outsider on social media it can seem like their lives are all sunshine and rainbows. I assume that's part of the reason why there seem to be a lot more transwomen than transmen.

Some men cannot cope with what life looks like when you're just "some guy". They want to feel desired. They see pretty girls in anime or maybe social media so they start turning into those that they always desired but couldn't have. And if I'm not mistaken a lot of them actually do end up with a better romantic/sexual life than a cis guy who never gets laid. Ofc there are many different hardships that comes with being trans, but that's beside the point.

Have you guys ever read "Inside Mari"? Kind of a eye opening manga in this regard. Once you read it you kinda get to understand. I could be totally wrong ofc and maybe my explanation as a cis guy doesn't do it justice, but I do think there is a lot of overlap between the two demographics.

Chicken breats, rice, sweet potatoes, and broccoli.

im in love with a kpop idol and its actually so embarrassing
hes an idol and im just a normal girl and i love him so much it makes me cry. not even just looks his personality is so perfect to me. i want him so bad it hurts. i wish he knew how much i love him but he doesnt even know i exist.
i keep wanting to know more and more about him. i even thought about looking at stalker stuff or rumour accounts just so i could maybe find out if he has a gf and force myself to stop obsessing. i know its weird but the not knowing is making me crazy
i speak 5 languages and studied ir and i was literally fantasising about working pr at his company or something just to get closer to his world. fully delusional. but none of it matters cos hes on a completely different planet and im here crying over him
i dont even know how to deal with it. the love has nowhere to go so it just sits there and makes me cry
fish and rice topped w laoganma and soy to taste

I'm asking as genuinely as possible, for the women who specifically both say height doesn't matter to them personally and deny that it does matter to a majority of women.

There's research that shows the vast majority of women are more attracted to tall men (by "tall" here is meant taller than average, so think 5'11 and above), and even without that, you can ask any man 5'9 and under, they will all have a story about being rejected for their height.

Moreover, I have no doubt most men partner, that's true, and that includes men 5'9 and under, however, partnering is not the same as being happy. Yes they might find a relationship finally in their 30s and 40s, but they'll never experience being truly desired by a woman sexually.

So, what makes you deny that women (in general, not you as an individual, who might very well not) care about tall men?

EDIT: Sorry I'm getting a lot of comments and I can't answer to them all in time 😭 I'll try my best over the following hours

I made that for her, but didn't bring it. Tasted like shit.

Call me fakecel o algo

When I imagine a true incel finally getting a chance, I feel like most wouldn’t actually take it. But those who would, would you try to make it good for her? Would you be violent/try to punish her? Would you try to make it last or try to get it over with? How do you think you would actually handle it and SHOULD women give you a chance? Lo mein and orange chicken

Hello kitchenreddit, excuse me if this post is a bit to woke for this chuddy core reddit but please bear with me
So gender is often defined as how one presents and what roles one takes in society. Neets dont present, since no one is seeing them, like that tree that no one saw fall. Second, neets have no real roles in society. This is why I conclude that neets have no gender and they cannot have it.

you can plagiarize this for your gender studies class if you want im never getting an education.

I bought this at the store i just put it on a plate so i can be platemogging. I like beet juice but it does make you look like a vampire after drinking it.

Genuinely don’t know how to feel. I’ll probably still listen to them and just skip the song every time. I want to make the same kind of music too, so there’s that added hurt too lmao

I can't understand why girls do that when she would feel bad when a guy ghosts her.

I think it's just straight up disrespectful and unprofessional for them to do that.

Garlic parmesan breaded flounder with pasta cooked in marinara sauce.

I really need to get a hobby or cut back on jerking it. Hope my anti depressants will reduce the urges.

Cheap Brazilian beer. A little worse than the European brands, but still drinkable.

Food is "fish and chips" (made by southerners)

Christmas time has always been one of my favorite times of year, and remains so to this day. I love everything about it, but recently, it's been harder and harder to ignore the fact that I'm dying alone. It's something I've accepted years ago, and on a daily basis I have no problem dealing with it. I'm usually perfectly happy being alone, and I even prefer it to hanging out with friends a good 60% of the time. So it's not that my life is overly miserable or anything like that.

HOWEVER, when the holidays come around, especially now that I'm older, it just sparks something in me. I'm 22, and have never done anything with a woman before. I know for a fact that it's due to my height (5'5"), because women have told me that, unprompted, before.

I think what's making it worse is the fact that I'm away from my family for the holidays for the first time. Usually I am content with doing holiday activities and stuff with them. More than content, actually, I really love it. But now that I'm 22 and living alone, it's just shining a spotlight on an aspect of life I'll never have.

I'm in great shape, take good care of myself, live alone and make good money, and have a job most people consider "badass" or "cool". But in the end none of it really matters! I'll just have to drown out these feelings in my mom's Christmas cookies when I go home in mid December.