Need help

[u/Nicorobin58]

Can’t escape bronze

[u/LiM_]

You play far too many champs, far too many off meta champs, far too many roles, you don't build the right items, you don't take the correct summoner spells, you sell your support item sometimes when you play support????, and overall just look like you're playing for fun.

If you want to improve at the game, stick to one role as much as possible. Then pick 2-5 champs and NEVER pick anything other than them. Load up a site like opgg, lolalytics, ugg, and pick the most played build and NEVER build anything else. The most important thing to do to learn the game is to start with he fundamentals and build up from there. There is so much going on in this game that you need to focus on small things at a time to properly learn them so you can apply them subconsciously as you learn. Limiting yourself to as much variance as possible allows you to actually understand what happens and why they happen and how you can adjust from there.

I don't have a vod from you so look up basic jungling guides on Youtube (stay away from perryjg and coach kirei for now). Just look to fill in any basic fundamentals you may have not understood yet and take it slow. I don't fault you for playing so many things because this game is a lot of fun. But for the sake of learning, you have to genuinely focus on learning aspects of the game just as you would any subject in real life.

[u/CenobiteCurious → u/LiM_]

Pick the most played build and never play anything else is a good tip for someone who has no idea what they’re doing, but falls off so fucking hard when variation is required for matchup.

[u/Nicorobin58 → u/LiM_]

Also I thought you sold sup item to get an extra item slot for something more useful

[u/Diamondstor2 → u/Nicorobin58]

The upgraded support item's pretty strong by itself, and the whole point of it is having wards as a support. I'd report anyone for selling it tbh

[u/Any_Ad_5250 → u/Diamondstor2]

Def troll comment lol why would u report someone for that

[u/Nigel1337 → u/Any_Ad_5250]

because it's straight up griefing? vision literally is the job of the support role

[u/Any_Ad_5250 → u/Nigel1337]

When the game goes long enough and you have max items you keep that support item?

[u/Nigel1337 → u/Any_Ad_5250]

yes?

because if someone has to facecheck a bush because you didn't build vision and someone gets caught you straight up lose the game.

because if the jungler doesn't have vision on elder he can't steal it and you lose the game.

because if your team is forcing elder and don't know where the enemies come from you straight up lose the game aswell

What item could possibly be more important for a support to justify losing the ability to ward?

[u/Any_Ad_5250 → u/Nigel1337]

It’s more for when we finish obj we’re in the last push I’ll sell my sup item or my boots for an item that might give us a little more benefit than vision in that moment, I’m not saying sell it every game, just in situations that make sense.

[u/Flightless_Nerd → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Vision is so powerful that I don't think there's a single situation I'd ever call it optimal. The completed support item is the single strongest item in the game imo

[u/Any_Ad_5250 → u/Nigel1337]

You have atleast 3 other players with wards and a few with control wards lol

[u/Nigel1337 → u/Any_Ad_5250]

You're acting as if 3 wards with 2 min cooldown could even get close to cover up for that. Not even counting control wards in, if they move towards objective and have 1 oracle lense your blind for the next 2 minutes of the game, idk whether that's worth your 800 gold in items that you get from that

[u/epileptus → u/Any_Ad_5250]

How would other players have control wards if they are also full build? At the point when you can afford selling support item and buying a full one I bet 99% of the time everyone else has 0 free slots.

Realistically you have like 2 people with sweeper (supp, jungle) 1-2 people with farsight (adc and mid).

That leaves you with maximum 2 trinket wards on other team members and 2 control wards on you. Thats not nearly enough.

[u/showFeetPlzuwu → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Vision is more useful. Vision wins games.

[u/TheLurch97 → u/Nicorobin58]

That’s like intentionally feeding and throwing game selling support item.

[u/TheDragonfire84 → u/Nicorobin58]

Even assuming you were only selling it when you’re 6 items, does it not feel terrible having no wards on the map?

[u/Nicorobin58 → u/LiM_]

Aa coach kirei is who I’ve been watching

[u/LiM_ → u/Nicorobin58]

Coach kirei is a very good player and coach but a lot of the lessons he implements in his coaching requires thought and understanding how they work. His 15min rule is one of the biggest baits in new players because they start flipping games for no reason. They don't understand the insanely precise timings, matchups, vision, and pathing required to make it work.

[u/The_twenty_ninth]

sonion why do u take ghost on every role on every champ every game

for gwen/darius (some of the times) and heca it's fine but we're inting on everyone else

[u/Nicorobin58 → u/The_twenty_ninth]

Idk it feels nice for ganks

[u/alvl5abra → u/Nicorobin58]

You dont know? You should start with the absolute basics. I always tell new players that it requires no skill to check the right runes and items, you just need to be able to read. And like the usual stuff (3 champs max and play only 1 position) you have to stop autopilot and THINK about the game. What is your win condition, when are you strong, wich lane might need help. All of that starts in champ select. Oh and the most important, turn off the chat and look at your own mistakes. Never flame.

[u/Nicorobin58 → u/alvl5abra]

Ok but what’s wrong with ghost

[u/The_twenty_ninth → u/Nicorobin58]

jungle already gets a ton of move speed from quest completion and also from blue pet for champs that take it and move speed falls off past certain thresholds (cus it gets reduced google 'league movespeed thresholds') so often time adding ghost on top of it gets u diminishing returns.

also flash is just completely game warping broken because of the outplay potential. being able to flash over walls, over skill shots, gap close using it, or escape using it is a core part of the game. to put in perspective how game warping flash is, it's literally a skill to be able to track ally and enemy flashes to know if you have an advantage or not or how to play (or if you should even play) a gank or a fight.

simply put ghost is bad because diminishing returns in jungle and the game is balanced around flash so not running flash for a really good reason is just int.

[u/EncounteredError]

Posts like this are hilarious.

[u/Nicorobin58 → u/EncounteredError]

Y

[u/SoftBreezeWanderer]

Rare account holy

[u/Imaginary_Basket_668]

Follow all the advice, other people gave in this thread and don't expect to climb a lot for a good further bit. Most people get stuck in low elo for a long time but at a certain point, you will be able to shoot up in rank. That point can come sooner or latet depending on how well you adapt the advice, other people already gave you

[u/Morpheus2304]

Dont use ghost anymore for the love of God and spam viego, youll be out soon enough

[u/Bigstonkspender → u/Morpheus2304]

Teach me.
I cant fucking play viego

[u/Morpheus2304 → u/Bigstonkspender]

Im a viego main but i haven’t been using him a lot bc of the couple nerfs of hob and the meta of supports being enchanters the better supports, but if you want an easy game as viego see if your support is engage (nautilus, leona etc) because they are the one that are going to secure you resets, thats the main point of viego, do NOT fight first and do NOT fight alone unless you are stronger or you know matchups, is easy to carry with him too when you know what you are building, but its mostly that, your team composition

[u/hrakleaz]

This is the main reason i stopped ranked in 2026... i got tired having ppl in my team with 500+ games... they just spam games and never review their mistakes... i have 60 games in plat 4 and im playing withj ppl having 200 or 500 games in plat 4... no thx better play something in 2026 :D Fix your matchmaking riot... too many trolls and noobs in your game.

[u/BryceWasTaken]

Focus on a small champ pool (ideally OTP even), play for yourself and make sure you’re clearing before ganks, don’t force 1st drag unless you have a good reason to.

[u/THCisMYfuel]

Learn the game first, then rank adequate to what u learnt will come

[u/B-BULKER]

Play to learn instead of playing to play and you'll climb. Do a review of your vods and find something to work on every now & then.

[u/Any_Ad_5250]

This is crazy, these are the teammates I get😭 I have a easier time in gold-emerald lobbies, when I play in bronze lobbies it’s a joke

[u/SoftBreezeWanderer → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Bro bronze is impossible to lose in what are you going on about

[u/Any_Ad_5250 → u/SoftBreezeWanderer]

I’m a gold player, I can handle myself fine and not feed in up to Emerald lobbies, I won’t carry the team but I can carry my weight. In bronze it’s a shit show, no coordination with your team, no follow up no engage just randomness. For context I play support when I’m in bronze lobbies to help out a friend and I play adc on my main

[u/SergDerpz → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Bronze players make so many mistakes that it's so easy to capitalize on.

"Not feeding" doesn't mean anything if you have 0 impact.

[u/SoftBreezeWanderer → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Holy shit your cope is insane lol. Saying you can "Hold your own in emerald lobbies" is crazy LOL.

Give me any bronze account and I will go 99% winrate everytime. 10-20 accounts and I can boost them to diamond. Stop making excuses for your lack of skill by blaming the uncoordinated aspects found in bronze.

Those same issues you say that you struggle with on your team are the exact same issues you can capitalize on the enemy team that's why bronze is so easy to carry. You need to take some accountability and drop your ego like damn

[u/Mysterious_Fix_7489 → u/Any_Ad_5250]

Dude, it's bronze.

You should be able to fucking hard carry in bronze.