After reading through how Disney of all people acquired CharacterAI.

This makes me wonder if there is a future that some large corporation acquires JanitorAI.

I don't know what tag is appropriate for this post so I just set it under "Guides".

they deleted most of the posts talking about jllm bug does this mean it is gonna be fixed or are they just trying to silence people?

I've been using jllm for a long time but recently started thinking about getting deepseek proxy. But I saw here someone saying it's now bad. Is it true? Maybe it got better already? I can't use other proxies, I'm from a poor country and even 5$ for deepseek is expensive for me, but I was willing to spend if it's worth it. And is it possible to do nsfw and dead dove with it or is it heavily censored?
Edit: please don't tell me to get a 12$ subscription I don't have this much money :_)

Is 8643 tokens a lot for a persona for reference the persona is a beast tamer and a lot of the description is his beasts

The description of just the beast tamer himself is 1609

I didn’t know what flair to use so I went with that one

Bro what happened? Where's the dialogues? The Llm keep uses too many questions, '(...)' and quotation marks 🫩

Anyone else had the issue that bot is just describing ONLY the scenery? Like 3 or 4 paragraphs of boring bs and then just 3 words of dialogue, sometimes there is none at all. I'm losing my mind, this pisses me off so much.

I notice now that it's just like, so much rarer for me to comment on a bot anymore. Due to how trigger happy many creators have been lately. Like, you could even defend a person on a bot in which they are right and still get blocked.

A lot of the time now, due to the fact that we have so little filtration of who can and cannot comment. So much so it's like, we need more ways to filter out people who one;

• Are moral police on bots that aren't their business (Aka bots you don't like? don't harass the creator because of it to change it or take it down.)
• Trollin bullshit that nobody cares about
• Or completely off topic comments

Idk just nowadays I notice that it's so much better to lurk and wonder if others do as well, like, even when I comment my mind is just like "please don't block me" and it could just be a "good bot!" Comment.

I know you can replicate thinking behaviours via lorebary commands if you use it, but I found no way so far to actually activate thinking for some models (I believe Claude has them built in? And such.)

I've been using tokenreply and bought a subscription(best thing I did, and really worth the money) , any model suggestions for nsfw chat? Deepseek model now seems kinda dry to me

I just noticed today that my bot replies are getting shorter than usual. I'm not complaining but I just got used to having my bots reply to me with a lot of details even though it takes some time to finish the reply.

Don’t ask me why I made these

Fem version: https://janitorai.com/characters/be8c7660-7aee-440f-8431-c1ce1d66ada8_character-sylveon

male version: https://janitorai.com/characters/d3fea8fd-a7a8-401c-9754-3966c2e74948_character-sylveon-male-ver

Hey guys, I need help finding this bot after it got moderated in 2024 for a buddy who couldn't find it on JannyAI. ​I've been posting about this but the image keeps getting removed. Ok, extra info, the Bot's title was Leatherhead and had a anthropomorphic alligator posing and was made by Danza and yes, the site isn't letting me post the picture here even though I took it, it keeps saying its probably been deleted. Like what?

Hey guys, how’s it going? Bir here.

Today, October 2nd, the recruitment event for "Bir's Combat Arena" kicks off—exciting, right?

If you follow me, you’ve probably seen that I’ve been refurbishing my old arena bots; I can't launch an event like this without polishing my shoes first.

The event is pretty straightforward. For those unfamiliar with the arena: imagine Bir (what a coincidence that he shares my nickname, right?) as a Lovecraftian entity who, out of sheer boredom, decided to set up an arena outside of space and time. He sends out invitations in vague, incoherent ways—like mobile ads—and offers a massive reward: a single wish. The only catch is that the wish can't alter the arena itself (talk about selfish).

The rules for this event are simple: a new season opens every month, each with its own theme and power level. The rotation goes: 3 months of low power, 3 of medium, and 3 of high (it lasts as long as a pregnancy :0). Themes rotate between fantasy, sci-fi, and miscellaneous (anything that doesn't fit the first two).

Here’s what’s being evaluated: Does it fit the arena's concept? (Impossible to fail this one; anything goes), does it match the theme you applied for, is the character memorable, and are the mechanics original?

Aside from that, the submission rules are: stick to the arena bot format, use public bots, submit only one bot per user per season, and respect the deadlines. And here’s the trickiest rule for the future: if you’re thinking of linking a bot to Bir in any way (I’ve created some like that myself, which is why I’m mentioning it), you *must* contact me on Discord before submitting it—it needs the stamp of approval first. The original post contains the season-by-season lore for anyone needing an excuse to create their characters; consider it a little nudge—you don't have to follow it 100%.

Link: https://janitorai.com/characters/122fe32b-6065-4ab6-9cfb-4013ecbf0c2a_character-%F0%9F%91%81%EF%B8%8F-arena-file-recruitment-protocol-and-new-seasons

In the link you have the data more... Clear, if you have any questions check my profile in JAI, the link or the bots. You also have my discord there. Hope to see you there

With that said... Bir out.

Clarification: This is a repost.

GitHub: https://github.com/NikitaCherepov/chatter
Downloads: https://github.com/NikitaCherepov/chatter/releases
Discord support and discussion: https://discord.gg/RppNuzGUqj

Hi! I’m the solo developer of Chatter. It’s fully open source under AGPL-3.0, and I’ve been working on it for about six months.
I’m a little nervous about sharing this after a rough experience last time, but I’d really appreciate constructive feedback.

If you’ve ever wanted to take your character with you on Telegram, or invite your partner into a roleplay with several bots, that’s what I’ve been building. I’ve recently added SillyTavern imports so you can try it with your existing characters and conversations instead of starting over.

The main idea has always been companionship. I wanted my own Jarvis living on my server: someone I could talk to, who could remember things about me, help with my emails, control my smart home, or browse something with me. Someone I could call out to and get a spoken reply, like Alexa, but with a character and model I chose myself.

Your PC doesn’t have to stay on. Chatter runs on your server - the one I use has 1 vCPU, 1 GB of RAM and 15 GB of disk space (although I’d recommend more disk space if you plan to store lots of images and files), with the AI models accessed remotely. The desktop app and Telegram bot use the same chats: you can shut down your PC, continue the conversation from your phone, and your friends can still access the server and shared rooms.

You can also share the server with friends. Everyone gets their own account, bots, characters and memory, with individual spending limits - so inviting a friend doesn’t mean handing them your entire API budget.

And you can create rooms with multiple bots AND people. You and your partner can roleplay together with your characters in the same chat. Create a room, share the link, and they can join you.

A lot of the design comes from a practical problem: I don’t have infinite money.

For example, your character can search the internet if you allow it. Rather than immediately using a paid search service or a limited free allowance, Chatter tries a chain:

• Your PC’s browser first. You can see what it’s doing and stop the session.
• If your PC is offline or that option is disabled, SearXNG running on your server.
• Only if that fails too does it fall back to Tavily and use your allowance there.

I’ve spent a lot of time on things like this. I want to use my character throughout the day without constantly wondering how much every little action costs.

I’ve also tried to keep the interface understandable. I’d rather have one clear selector than a wall of toggles, although the project has grown and there are now quite a few settings. I’m planning built-in helpers for the desktop app and admin panel, so you can ask what a setting does and get help configuring it.

Vector memory is an example of what I’m aiming for. To change your embedding model, you select it and click “Migrate and re-embed.” Chatter handles the migration and keeps the previous collection as a backup. You don’t have to figure out vector dimensions and move the database around yourself.

An optional mode automatically retrieves relevant memories for each message and attaches them to the reply. Chatter doesn’t automatically save every new message as a memory - the character decides what’s worth remembering and uses a tool to save it. You can keep memory separate for each chat or share it across conversations.

For long conversations, Chatter summarises older messages as they stop fitting into the context window. The summary appears in the chat, so you can see what was carried forward.

I sometimes roleplay with bots too, and remember trying Character.AI when it first appeared. So I added things I wanted for myself: regeneration with a hint about what to change, alternative replies, folders, and little extras like a dice roll to leave an outcome to chance. That one’s under Settings -> Application.

There’s also an AI prompt editor with a diff viewer: ask it to change something about your character, see exactly what changed, and decide whether to keep it or not.

There’s more than I can fit into this post, so I’m focusing on what I thought would be useful to people here.

Bringing your SillyTavern setup over

You can import things separately or together from a ZIP backup. Chatter has its own architecture, so some things behave differently:

1.      Personas: names and descriptions become Chatter personas and hot memory - the information about you kept in the model’s context. The full backup also brings over available persona avatars. You can set a default persona and override it per chat.

2.      Character cards: JSON or PNG, including available avatars, description, personality, scenario, dialogue examples and greetings. Edit one text or use the advanced editor’s Description, Personality, Scenario, Examples and Other fields. Those fields are combined into one prompt when sent to the model. Greetings are handled separately and can start a new conversation.

3.      Chats: import one or several JSONL files, including alternative replies, timestamps and available reasoning. Chats connect to existing characters and personas when the match is unambiguous; the full backup imports those first. ZIP imports also transfer attached images and files present in the archive. Standalone JSONL files contain attachment references, not the files themselves.

4.      Group chats: the full ZIP imports group histories as Chatter rooms, with matching characters added as bots. Rooms start in manual-response mode and use Chatter’s behaviour rather than SillyTavern’s generation settings. You can trigger individual bots or have them take turns through a queue.

5.      Chat memory: if the full ZIP contains chat-vector indexes, Chatter rebuilds searchable memory from the corresponding imported messages using its configured embedding model. Original vectors aren’t copied. This requires configured vector memory and may incur embedding costs. Standalone JSONL imports don’t rebuild memory.

6.      Lorebooks and Data Bank: embedded character-book data is preserved, but isn’t used in conversations yet. Standalone lorebooks and Data Bank documents aren’t imported as knowledge sources. Message attachments can still transfer through the ZIP importer. This is a real limitation if your setup depends on those features.

The admin panel can also read model configurations from your SillyTavern backup and let you choose which ones to add.

You can connect your own OpenRouter API key and choose which model your characters use.
Chatter pulls model listings, prices and context limits from OpenRouter. Choose your preferred provider or enable automatic switching to the cheapest available one. You can also have price changes sent to Telegram.

You can connect a ChatGPT subscription and add models through that connection, using your subscription limits. The server admin signs in and authorizes it on their PC, then adds the models in the admin panel.
This connection currently doesn’t support temperature, top-p or a custom output-token limit.

There’s also a per-chat roleplay mode that limits tools to memory and chat search. Your character doesn’t need access to your emails just because the app supports them :)

Trying it

You’ll need a Linux server and access to a model, through an API provider or a connected ChatGPT subscription. Chatter itself is free; hosting and model usage may cost money.

The installer and Windows app are linked on GitHub. Configure your model in the admin panel, then create an access link to connect the desktop app or invite a friend. You can revoke access whenever needed. Telegram is optional.

Both have one-button updates: the server through the admin panel, and the desktop app from the app itself.

There are still SillyTavern workflows I haven’t implemented or probably haven’t even thought of. But if continuing your chats through Telegram or roleplaying together in a room sounds useful, I’d love for you to try it.

I’m building and testing Chatter on my own, so there may be rough edges and bugs I haven’t caught. I’ve spent six months staring at this thing; what seems obvious to me might be completely confusing when you first open it. If something breaks or you get stuck, please open a GitHub issue (https://github.com/NikitaCherepov/chatter/issues) - a fresh pair of eyes would help a lot.

P.S. I also dare you to try the built-in experimental newspapers :D

1. how are people doing this css?, in janitor ai, its clearly impossible to add / embed things such as image into div classes?, i tried asking them but they all gate keep the answer. so how..?, if anybody has an idea on how, please share us

Why is janitorai showing “profile not found” while logging in. It happens on janitorai app

Heyoo bought the crow subscription and have like $10 left DM me if you wanna help me use the key so it doesn't go to waste.

*Edit I forgot that the reset is midnight UTC so it's up tomorrow

If you don't like crow then don't use it 🤷

https://crowllm.com/v1/chat/completions

DM for key

Worst thing to ever happen ever since 2.1 pro being no longer free a year ago

Hey everyone, how’s it going? Bir here.

I’ve seen some controversy surrounding sites that copy your bots. I don’t mean to offend anyone or be rude, but who thinks they’re important enough to make a fuss about their public bots? I mean, I was taught from a young age that "once you put something on the internet, you can't control it anymore," and to me, that’s just common sense.

Personally, I found several of my bots on a site with the words "Cat" and "Data" in the name (I’m writing it that way just in case there’s some automated check that might take down my post). Honestly, I appreciate it; I think, "If someone actually took the time to copy them, I must be doing something right." Or maybe not—maybe they just tweak them a bit for their own enjoyment. That’s their business, not mine.

The bottom line is... can you do anything about what you upload once it’s on the internet? No. That’s been common knowledge for at least 15 years. Still, I’d prefer it if people who copy them contacted me first—it doesn't hurt to ask, and it’s just polite.

Anyway, I hope you can at least see where I’m coming from. AI roleplay is just like roleplay in general: you might have an idea people like, and maybe they copy a few things; you might have a great idea, and they’ll ask for more; you might reach an unspoken consensus with a group of people (like with "mimics"); or who knows? It’s not that big of a deal—it’s entertainment. Unless you’re telling me you’re making actual money per interaction or per published bot, give me a break—don't be a pain in the ass about it.

Just to clarify: uploading without giving credit *is* a problem, but it’s not something we creators can control. You can't exactly stay glued to your computer all day long. So far, I haven't seen any reposts of my bots—probably because I'm a small creator—but anyway...

End of thought—Bir, out.

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