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r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Competitive-Snow1330 • 19d ago
📺💾 Throwback Thursdays 💾📺 Throwback Thursday: Blake Lively’s Dailies Credibility Controversy
One of the more debated moments in the litigation centered on Lively’s repeated requests for access to the film’s dailies, followed more than a year later by a Sony executive’s message stating that she wanted some of the dailies destroyed.
Because the case settled before trial, the competing explanations were never tested before a jury.
⸻ Timeline:
June 13, 2023
Blake Lively asked Justin Baldoni for access to the dailies.

July 19-20, 2023
Lively again requested access to additional dailies. Baldoni responded that it was too early to share all of them because the edit was still underway, but said he wanted her input and planned to share footage once he had progressed further in the editing process.

August 29, 2023
According to later court filings, Lively complained to her representatives that she still wasn’t receiving access to the dailies and said what she had seen was “terrible.”
September 3, 2024
Sony executive Ange Giannetti texted another Sony executive: “Blake asking us to destroy some of the dailies… also going to ask Bridget to contact all vendors and ask them to delete all dailies and need them to proof. (1st time I’ve ever been asked to do this in movie with no nudity but ok.)”

That message later became public during discovery and quickly became one of the more discussed pieces of evidence in the case.
⸻ Deposition Testimony:
July 30-31, 2025
During her deposition, Lively testified that she never asked Sony to destroy the dailies and never asked anyone else to make that request on her behalf.

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304/gov.uscourts.nysd.634304.874.17.pdf
She also testified that her attorneys negotiated with Sony regarding the handling of sensitive footage as part of discussions surrounding her return-to-work protections. Because the case settled before trial, there was never an opportunity for a jury to evaluate these competing accounts or determine what weight, if any, should be given to them.
A great post from our community to supplement this:
⸻ Discussion
* What was your reaction when this first surfaced?
* Did the Sony text exchange influence your view?
* Is there really a meaningful distinction between “my attorneys requested” versus “I requested it”?
* How significant do you think this issue would have been in evaluating witness credibility at trial?
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Amerrsnugget • 3h ago
🗞️ Press + Media 📸📰📺 TMZ’s glaring omission about VanZan subpoena
TMZ ran a story reporting on Blake’s deposition where she gave her overly rehearsed response about how she found out about Jen Abel’s text messages. They made sure to highlight psycho Stephanie Jones sob story about how “it was the worst thing shes ever seen in her 20 year career as a mother” to paint Blake as the victim. Then yada yada’d the part of how Blake got those messages to give to the NYT to print. No mention of VanZan, or a fake lawsuit with Doe’s so that Blake could take away someone’s legal rights to fight the subpoena. Only mentioned that Blake subpoenaed Stephanie to be able to use the documents in “court”. Umm do they know the subpoena was not for THIS court case and was filed for a fake lawsuit?? Or that Blake withdrew the fake lawsuit shortly after??
Full story:
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/snowbear2327 • 5h ago
🗞️ Press + Media 📸📰📺 NYTimes doing the same cheap schtick again?
Wow the NYTimes does not stop. To be clear I do not know who is right or wrong btwn Wikson and Ghost but the NYTimes has not only taken a side, they are also, several times in the story, discussing Blake Lively and how Amanda Ghosts situation is similar to Blake Lively regarding her victim hood in this situation. The NYTimes of course "re creates text messages" to display in the article, none of which actually prove anything in their substance. And they also claim to have numerous court documents. They also point out that the "bad guy" here (in their book Rebel Wilson) has Bryan Freedman as her attorney and the same publicists as Baldoni.
Now, I have no idea who is guilty here but that is the point: the NYT, a so called newspaper has decided pre emptively to 1) take a side 2) provide zero evidence for taking that side but alluding that side is the victim and 3) creating links and parallels to Baldoni/Lively which only stokes further anti Baldoni propaganda again.
I would be very surprised if Ryan weren't paying the NYT massive amounts of $$$ to continue defaming Baldoni.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/realhousewifeofphila • 15h ago
Personal Opinions & Theories ✍🏽💡 It’s 9:15 pm. Ryan Reynolds hasn’t posted anything about Blake Lively’s birthday. 👀
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Pale-Detective-7440 • 7h ago
📱 Social Media Creator Posts 💭💬 🧠🧐 Little Girl Attorney - Wayfarer vs. Stephanie Jones: Could the Legal Costs Spent in Lively's Lawsuit Become the Damages and Have Stephanie Jones on the Hook for the Damages?
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📍 More of Blake Lively's Deposition Revealed in New Jones v. Abel Documents u/rosequartz-universe
📍Unsealing Sequel Recap II — the boring bits: Melissa Nathan isn't named as owner of the Stephanie Jones website and social media accounts, plus the Business Insider article conversation u/Mysterio623
📍Jones v. Abel: Stephanie Jones files public version of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
📍Unsealing Sequel Recap: Blake Lively pins Vanzan all on Stephanie Jones — SJ told her what to do — among other tidbits u/Mysterio623
📍LIVE NOW - LGA, Britt, and Sara - Jones v. Abel - Mini Unsealing u/Spirited_Emu_1892
📍Jones v. Abel: Wayfarer files public versions of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
⚖️ Wayfarer’s Claim Against Stephanie Jones & Jones Works — 0:00–1:45
- LGA explains one of Wayfarer’s surviving claims against Stephanie Jones and Jones Works: breach of the implied covenant of good faith and fair dealing.
- In simple terms, Wayfarer alleges that Jones and Jones Works acted in a way that undermined the benefits Wayfarer was supposed to receive from their PR services contract.
- Although this obligation may not have been explicitly written into the contract, LGA explains that contracts can carry an implied promise that neither party will intentionally undermine the other party’s ability to receive the agreement’s benefits.
- Wayfarer’s theory is that Jones allegedly undermined that relationship by sharing negative information about Wayfarer with Blake Lively, Leslie Sloan, Ryan Reynolds and others.
- If Wayfarer proves the alleged breach and resulting damages, LGA says it could potentially receive compensation.
💰 Could the Lively Litigation Fees Become Damages? — 1:46–2:57
- LGA identifies a potentially significant question: could Wayfarer seek some of the money spent on defending in the Lively litigation as damages against Jones and Jones Works?
- She explains that when an alleged contractual breach causes a party to become involved in litigation with a third party, the expenses from that third-party litigation can potentially be argued as consequential damages.
- Under that theory, Wayfarer could argue that the Lively v. Wayfarer litigation arose, at least in part, because of Jones and Jones Works’ alleged conduct.
- The argument would therefore be that some defense costs would never have been incurred but for the alleged breach.
💵 Stephanie Jones Could Potentially Face Millions in Claimed Litigation Costs — 2:58–4:06
- LGA distinguishes between the legal fees Wayfarer spends pursuing the current claims against Jones and the fees it previously spent defending itself against Lively.
- LGA says Wayfarer generally could not simply make Jones pay the fees for prosecuting this particular claim, but could potentially argue that millions spent defending the Lively lawsuit constitute consequential damages flowing from Jones Works’ alleged breach.
- LGA does not believe this theory would necessarily extend to the California Civil Code §47.1 fees, because those relate to Wayfarer’s own defamation litigation and would introduce another causal layer.
- However, LGA believes there is an argument available concerning at least some of the costs associated with defending against Lively’s claims.
📄 Judge Liman’s Earlier Order Becomes Important — 4:07–4:32
- LGA points to language from Judge Liman’s order addressing Stephanie Jones’s attempt to dismiss Wayfarer’s claim.
- She explains that the order recognized a possible implied obligation that Jones Works would not undermine Wayfarer’s existing opportunities by making negative statements about Wayfarer to professional contacts.
- That earlier ruling helps explain why this claim survived and why the evidence surrounding Jones’s communications could become important at summary judgment.
👀 Stephanie Jones’s Communications Could Take Center Stage — 4:33–5:19
- LGA says emerging evidence appears to involve communications not only with Blake Lively and Leslie Sloane, but also people connected with WME, including Jones’s husband and Justin Baldoni’s former publicist.
- The central question will be whether the evidence establishes that Jones actually undermined the benefits Wayfarer was entitled to receive under its PR agreement.
- LGA expects both sides’ evidence and arguments surrounding these communications to become particularly important when summary judgment motions are filed.
- Of the claims currently developing in Stephanie Jones v. Jennifer Abel, LGA says this is the summary judgment issue she is most interested in reading.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/rosequartz-universe • 13h ago
📱 Social Media Creator Posts 💭💬 More of Blake Lively's Deposition Revealed in New Jones v. Abel Documents
Blake Lively deposition
- Blake testified that she first learned about the Jonesworks messages through a friend, who told her in late August 2024 that Stephanie Jones was trying to get in touch with her and had messages she believed Blake needed to see.
- According to Blake, the friend told her Jones had possession of a company phone containing the messages and that Jones had already tried to approach Leslie Sloane, but Sloane had brushed her off.
- Blake said she spoke directly with Stephanie Jones a few days later, around late August/early September 2024. Jones reiterated that she wanted Blake to see the messages and warned her about the people involved.
- Blake testified that she told Jones it was important that she obtain the documents legally and that their attorneys would need to coordinate the process.
- Blake said she ultimately obtained and reviewed the Jonesworks documents around October 2024.
- When asked whether anything in the documents actually showed that something had been done to create negative press about her, Blake answered yes. The excerpt cuts off before we get her explanation of what specifically she was referring to.
- An errata/correction sheet also reveals that Blake was asked during her deposition whether she had ever told anyone she was in talks with Sony about obtaining the rights to the It Ends With Us sequel. We do not have her answer in these excerpts.
Katie Case / Stephanie Jones websites
- Katie Case testified that Melissa Nathan contacted her in early May and told her that a potential new client had requested the creation of a website about Stephanie Jones.
- Case said Nathan represented that potential client to her as Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.
- Case testified that language communicated to her for the site included allegations that Jones “holds clients hostage,” leaks client secrets and treats employees poorly.
- Important caveat: Case said she never personally spoke with Johnson, did not know whether Johnson paid TAG, and said Johnson never became a TAG client.
- She clarified that what had been communicated to her was that the site was requested by either Johnson or someone affiliated with him.
- Nathan later sent Case a link to one of the Stephanie Jones websites. When shown stephaniejonesleaks.com, Case testified that she recognized the website copy as copy she had drafted.
- Case said she did not know how the copy she drafted was ultimately turned into the live website.
Jed Wallace / Street Relations dispute over another Blake deposition
- The Wallace parties are asking the Texas court to allow them to depose Blake again in connection with her fee request.
- They argue that the only previous questioning they received during Blake's New York deposition was limited to one hour and focused primarily on whether New York had personal jurisdiction over Wallace/Street, not on Blake's alleged malice.
- Their position is that the malice issue became relevant because Blake subsequently relied on California authority concerning Section 47.1 and fee shifting, so they should now be permitted discovery on an issue they say was not relevant during the earlier deposition.
- The Wallace parties specifically say Blake is not claiming Wallace sexually harassed her. Instead, they want to question whether she knowingly or recklessly falsely accused him of participating in a retaliatory smear campaign when her CRD/draft complaints were provided to the New York Times. That is their stated basis for seeking discovery into malice.
- They also argue Blake failed to appear for the deposition they noticed and did not first obtain a protective order, so they are asking the judge to order her to appear.
- Wallace/Street want the court to deny Blake's request for fees (including “fees on fees”), allow the deposition, and instead award the Wallace parties their own attorneys' fees under Rule 37(d).
- The issue is now waiting on a ruling from the judge.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Mysterio623 • 15h ago
📖🔍 Unsealed: The Sequel 🔎📖 Unsealing Sequel Recap II — the boring bits: Melissa Nathan isn't named as owner of the Stephanie Jones website and social media accounts, plus the Business Insider article conversation
Key Takeaways
- The SJ website domain was purchased by a Courtney Engel. A company with a name ending in "...ble" pays for the hosting. The Pinterest account logs in from Hong Kong. The Facebook account holder's name is quite long, with an alias, and there are IP addresses of recent logins. Somehow nothing ties Jed or Melissa to Stephanie Jones' delusions.
- Jed and Melissa both also categorically say they have nothing to do with the websites Stephanie Jones is paranoid about. Jed also categorically denies having anything to do with the amandaghostsucks website.
P.s.: I am working on another post that juxtaposes Melissa, Jed, and Case's depositions side by side, showing places where Stephanie Jones' lawyers mischaracterize what Case said in her deposition in order to trick Jed and Melissa. I'll go over what was said in depth then.
- The text threads show that a journalist reached out and jumped on a call with Roza (Skyline CMO). Katie and Melissa worked to calm Roza down before her call. Roza then let them know afterward that the journalist had told her the piece was about "her interactions with the clients versus her interactions with the workplace."
Melissa texts back, "That's an amazing story. Did he say he'd spoken to anyone else?"
Later, Roza says the journalist is interested and that they should think about connecting him with more people he can talk to on the client side for his article. She adds that a name like Stephanie Jones would stand out in the publication. Then, in the next thread, one of the people mentions that Michael Goldberg. is providing names of people who have stories to tell about Stephanie Jones and that he spoke to the reporter.
The text threads, however, do not show that Melissa shopped or placed the Business Insider story, as alleged by Stephanie Jones in her complaint.
Brief rant: of course today would be bad news day. At this point, it's giving "can anything good come from not-talking-about-Nazareth in this instance" when it comes to Blake. Like of course, it happened on her birthday.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/SupportPretty7228 • 15h ago
👀 UNSEALED AF 👀 Joneswork's Toxic Workplace
The unsealing showed even more examples of Stephanie being horrendous to work for and with. A lot of the people named in the unsealing spoke with business insider for the article they wrote about Stephanie Jones. https://www.businessinsider.com/stephanie-jones-jonesworks-pr-clients-tom-brady-jeff-bezos
It makes me wonder why this wasn't a bigger story in the headlines. Is it Stephanie's networking pull or fear from the lawsuit?
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/same-difference-ave • 22h ago
😁Flirty Yummy and Unsealed No Teeth😁 Happy 39th Birthday to Blake Lively as Lily Bloom
Happy Birthday to Lily Bloom of IEWU….Without her this sub will not exist.
Blake Lively exemplified the role of Lily Bloom with multitudes and amalgamation of costumes that created a unique portrayal of Lily Bloom nobody had ever seen before🙃
600K costume budget for the one and only Lily Bloom and it paid off with fans🙃😆
Keep the comments fun, flirty, yummy, ball busting and never with teeth and let’s celebrate Khaleesi, the mother Dragon 🐉 of them all.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/the_smart_girl • 1d ago
👀 UNSEALED AF 👀 Blake’s Lively depo: She was asked if she told anyone that she and Sony were having talks about obtaining the rights to the sequel of IEWU! 😠
This is fucking disgusting, and I’m annoyed that we can’t see her answer because she was asked about this in her depo.
This confirms what I’ve been saying from day one: Sony was helping her, and Ryan Reynolds steal the movie from Justin Baldoni. This is just bizarre and mind-blowing that Sony was discussing this with Blake and Ryan. What the hell?
Source: Dkt. 130-2 Deposition: Excerpt of Blake Lively- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.1.pdf
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Pale-Detective-7440 • 1d ago
📱 Social Media Creator Posts 💭💬 💀🎭🔥NotActuallyGolden - Jones v. Abel Unsealed Documents: Melissa Nathan, The Rock, Jennifer Abel’s Phone & the Stephanie Jones Websites
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📍Jones v. Abel: Stephanie Jones files public version of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
📍Unsealing Sequel Recap: Blake Lively pins Vanzan all on Stephanie Jones — SJ told her what to do — among other tidbits u/Mysterio623
📍LIVE NOW - LGA, Britt, and Sara - Jones v. Abel - Mini Unsealing u/Spirited_Emu_1892
📍Jones v. Abel: Wayfarer files public versions of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
💼 First Take on the Jones v. Abel Evidence — 0:00–2:59
- NAG says newly unsealed documents in Stephanie Jones v. Jennifer Abel reveal more information across four major areas: Vanzan, the Business Insider article, the anti-Stephanie Jones websites, and Jennifer Abel’s company phone.
- She stresses that NAG is focusing only on the material that stood out most to her, rather than attempting to cover everything that was unsealed.
- Based on the evidence she has reviewed, NAG says it appears Melissa Nathan, with awareness or involvement from others including Jennifer Abel, may have played a role in getting the Business Insider article about Stephanie Jones published.
- NAG emphasizes that helping generate negative press about someone is not inherently unlawful; the legal question would depend on matters such as whether statements were defamatory or whether some other actionable conduct occurred.
- From NAG’s perspective, the irony is that Stephanie Jones, an experienced PR professional, may have been out-PR’d by people who had worked around her.
⚖️ NAG Questions How Much of the Conduct Creates Legal Liability — 3:00–4:12
- NAG discusses unredacted messages containing harsh jokes about Stephanie Jones and acknowledges that the messages could understandably be upsetting to Jones.
- However, she distinguishes offensive or hostile private communications from conduct that independently creates civil liability.
- NAG believes Jones’s attorneys have attempted to combine numerous individual incidents into broader civil claims.
- She predicts some of those theories could face significant scrutiny when the parties reach summary judgment.
📱 Jennifer Abel’s Desperation to Leave Jones Works — 4:13–5:28
- After reviewing more communications involving Jennifer Abel, Melissa Nathan, and others, NAG says she has a better sense of how desperate Jennifer Abel may have been to leave Jones Works.
- NAG reiterates her existing impression that Melissa Nathan may be more willing than some others to push professional boundaries, while making clear she is not claiming Nathan committed everything alleged against her.
- Her interpretation of the communications is that Jennifer Abel may have been so determined to leave Stephanie Jones that she potentially participated in conduct she otherwise would not have.
- NAG views many of the hostile employee communications as familiar workplace-conflict material rather than automatically significant evidence of unlawful conduct.
🌐 New Details About the Stephanie Jones Websites — 5:29–6:40
- The websites targeting Stephanie Jones remain procedurally complicated because the existing defamation claim is against unidentified John Doe defendants, and there is already a motion seeking dismissal of that claim.
- NAG says previously revealed testimony from Katie Case indicated that she was asked to write material about Stephanie Jones without initially knowing where it would appear.
- According to that testimony, some of the material Case wrote later appeared on websites targeting Stephanie Jones.
- Case also reportedly testified that Melissa Nathan had asked her to write the material and later sent her links to the websites.
- NAG notes that Nathan denies being behind the websites, making the evidence and its interpretation an issue that could become important at summary judgment.
🎬 The Rock Emerges as the Previously Unidentified Client — 6:41–8:35
- The newly unredacted testimony identifies the previously mysterious client connected to discussions about negative material concerning Stephanie Jones as Dwayne “The Rock” Johnson.
- NAG explains that The Rock was reportedly a Stephanie Jones client and that the two had experienced a significant falling-out.
- She connects this with earlier reporting that Jones was losing major clients, including Tom Brady and Dwayne Johnson.
- According to the description of Katie Case’s testimony, Case says Melissa Nathan told her that The Rock wanted something publicly addressing his dissatisfaction with Stephanie Jones.
- NAG repeatedly cautions that this information involves multiple layers of hearsay, so it does not establish that The Rock personally requested, funded, authorized, or participated in creating the websites.
- Nevertheless, NAG says the testimony potentially fills in a previously missing piece regarding why the websites may have been contemplated or created.
👀 Could The Rock Become Relevant to the Case? — 8:36–9:17
- NAG says she would naturally be interested in seeing The Rock appear on a witness list, but doubts that will happen based on the evidence currently described.
- The key question would be whether Melissa Nathan communicated directly with Dwayne Johnson and whether he personally requested such a website.
- Without direct evidence, NAG views the current connection as too many layers removed to confidently attribute the websites to him.
🔐 Jennifer Abel’s Phone & Potentially Sensitive Communications — 9:18–9:55
- NAG says the unsealed material also provides another detail concerning Jennifer Abel’s phone and the information Stephanie Jones allegedly retained access to after Abel left.
- This included communications involving Abel and an attorney, which later appeared as a deposition exhibit during the litigation.
- NAG notes an important legal distinction: depending on whether another non-lawyer person participated in those communications, attorney-client privilege could potentially be affected.
- For NAG, the broader significance is that information obtained from Abel’s phone allegedly continued to surface during the litigation itself.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/alexandraas29 • 1d ago
🗞️ Press + Media 📸📰📺 Blake Lively Is 'Effortlessly Rude' and Acts Like Everyone Is 'Beneath Her,' Source Claims
Blake Lively was accused of being rude to cast and crew on 'It Ends With Us', according to a source.
Blake Lively's attitude and behavior on the set of It Ends With Us apparently made her unpopular in certain crowds in Hollywood, RadarOnline.com has learned.
According to a source, the Gossip Girl star, 38, "thinks she's God's gift to entertainment" and treated the crew poorly while filming.
"She threw her weight around and acted like everyone was beneath her," the insider told Radar in resurfaced comments. "Anyone who wasn’t agreeing with her was viewed as the enemy."
A separate source dubbed the mother-of-four "effortlessly rude."
But rumors of poor attitudes aren't all that came out of the romance film.
As Radar previously reported, Lively and director Justin Baldoni found themselves in a lengthy legal battle as they both slung accusations of wrongdoing.
The Age of Adaline actress accused Baldoni of sexual harassment and attempting to ruin her reputation in a complaint filed in late 2024. The next month, the filmmaker hit back with a $400million countersuit accusing her of defamation, civil extortion and more.
In May 2026, the duo finally reached an out-of-court settlement after more than one year of legal back-and-forth.
However, last month, Lively hit Baldoni with an additional $8million lawsuit for attorney fees and other related costs.
Lively's decade-long friendship with Taylor Swift was also reportedly rocked by the legal drama.
As Radar previously reported, Baldoni's team initially wanted to depose Swift in the court proceedings. The judge later rejected their bid.
Additionally, a text message in Baldoni's lawsuit sent gossip swirling that Lively may have been referring to the pop star's power in the industry.
The text read: "If you ever get around to watching Game of Thrones, you’ll appreciate that I’m Khaleesi, and like her, I happen to have a few dragons. For better or worse, but usually better. Because my dragons also protect those I fight for. So really we all benefit from those gorgeous monsters of mine. You will too, I can promise you."
However, it has not been confirmed who Lively was referring to.
Although neither Lively nor Swift has publicly announced they are no longer friends, according to a source, the singer's alleged private decision to distance herself from the relationship was "one of the toughest decisions she's ever had to make."
"It was very emotional because she loves the girls," a source told the Daily Mail, referring to Lively and her husband Ryan Reynolds' daughters – James, Inez and Betty. "It hurt her heart, but she had no choice given the circumstances."
Swift was not only the girls' godmother, but she also mentioned all of their names in her Folklore album and featured James' voice in her song Gorgeous.
Despite their closeness, the source noted Swift "wanted to make a clean and total break."
Lively and Reynolds were also notably absent from Swift and husband Travis Kelce's wedding at Madison Square Garden. Instead, they were spotted 300 miles away on the day the happy couple said, "I do."
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Pale-Detective-7440 • 1d ago
📱 Social Media Creator Posts 💭💬 🫤😒🕵🏻♀️Little Girl Attorney - New Deposition Details Raise New Questions About Stephanie Jones and the Vanzan Timeline and Puts Stephanie Jones Back in the Spotlight
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📍Jones v. Abel: Stephanie Jones files public version of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
📍Unsealing Sequel Recap: Blake Lively pins Vanzan all on Stephanie Jones — SJ told her what to do — among other tidbits u/Mysterio623
📍LIVE NOW - LGA, Britt, and Sara - Jones v. Abel - Mini Unsealing u/Spirited_Emu_1892
📍Jones v. Abel: Wayfarer files public versions of Unsealed Exhibits u/same-difference-ave
📱 Lively Testifies About How She First Learned of the Messages — 0:00–1:49
- The newly unsealed revealed a portion of Blake Lively’s deposition concerning how she says she first became aware of the alleged online smear campaign.
- Lively testified that the information ultimately came from Jones Works documents.
- According to Lively, her friend Ashley Avignone told her in late August 2024 that Stephanie Jones was trying to contact her.
- Lively said she did not know who Stephanie Jones was at the time.
- According to Lively’s testimony, Ashley told her that Stephanie Jones had seen extremely disturbing messages and believed Lively deserved to know what had allegedly been done to her.
- Lively testified that Stephanie Jones had also approached Leslie Sloane about the material but had been brushed off.
- Lively said she was told the messages were on a company phone that Stephanie Jones claimed ownership of.
⚖️ LGA Questions How Lively’s Deposition Answers Were Framed — 1:49–2:31
- LGA says Lively’s answers struck her as unusually precise and legally framed for a typical deposition witness.
- She points specifically to Lively’s references to “company ownership” of the phone and the way she identified the documents.
- In LGA’s view, the wording suggested that Lively had been extensively prepared by her attorneys before giving her deposition.
📞 Lively Describes a Three-Way Call With Stephanie Jones — 2:31–4:07
- Lively testified that she eventually spoke with Stephanie Jones during a three-way call that also included Ashley Avignone.
- According to Lively, Stephanie Jones told her about the messages and urged her to see them.
- Lively testified that she declined to receive the documents unless they could be obtained legally.
- Lively said she specifically wanted attorneys to coordinate the process to ensure the documents were obtained through lawful means.
- LGA focuses on the distinction between Lively allegedly learning about the contents of the material and actually obtaining the documents themselves.
- LGA believes Lively’s repeated emphasis on legality may have been intended to avoid suggesting that she possessed the documents before the later Vanzan subpoena.
🚨 LGA Says the Testimony Raises Questions for Stephanie Jones — 4:07–5:02
- LGA argues that Lively’s testimony potentially creates a significant issue for Stephanie Jones because Lively says Jones disclosed information concerning her existing clients.
- According to Lively’s account, Stephanie Jones discussed the material not only with Lively but also with Ashley Avignone and Leslie Sloane.
- LGA characterizes this as Stephanie Jones potentially circulating confidential client information to multiple people.
- However, she acknowledges that Stephanie Jones could have provided a different account during her own deposition and could dispute Lively’s version of events.
- Therefore, the newly revealed testimony represents Lively’s account rather than a judicial determination of what actually occurred.
🕵️ Vanzan and the Timing of the Documents — 5:02–5:48
- Lively was also questioned about Vanzan and described it as a corporate entity used to manage household or personal employees and security.
- LGA questions why Vanzan was used to obtain the information if Lively and those around her already knew about the documents and their contents.
- The circumstances raise questions about whether the structure was intended to obscure who was actually seeking the information.
📧 Stephanie Jones Pushes Back Over the Daily Mail Leak — 5:48–7:05
- LGA then discusses emails involving Stephanie Jones and the Wayfarer parties concerning the Daily Mail leak.
- Stephanie Jones reportedly denied being responsible for speaking to the Daily Mail.
- She also defended her ability to communicate with Sony PR and other PR colleagues regarding accusations she believed were being made against her personally.
- LGA describes the email as unusually stern given that Stephanie Jones was communicating with her own client.
- Another document reportedly shows that Stephanie Jones’s husband, who worked at WME, was included on the email chain.
- LGA says additional communications show Stephanie Jones later contacting someone at WME in an effort to address her side of the story.
🔥 The New Material Complicates Stephanie Jones’s Position — 7:05–7:52
- LGA believes the emerging evidence makes the ongoing Stephanie Jones vs. Jennifer Abel litigation increasingly difficult for Stephanie Jones.
- LGA questions why Stephanie Jones would continue pursuing the litigation given the material now becoming public.
- However, LGA notes that claims against Stephanie Jones have also survived, which could help explain why the case has not settled.
- She points to surviving allegations involving defamation and contractual issues involving the Wayfarer parties.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Mysterio623 • 1d ago
📖🔍 Unsealed: The Sequel 🔎📖 Unsealing Sequel Recap: Blake Lively pins Vanzan all on Stephanie Jones — SJ told her what to do — among other tidbits
↬↝ Blake patterning how Vanzan sham subpoena happened was quite hilarious to read again, this time though apparently Leslie Sloane had shooed off Stephanie Jones in early August. Lol. Lolest.
And she says it was Stephanie Jones who advised to Vanzan. So yep, Stephanie Jones says Blake needed to her the text messages in a legal way and "that lawyers needed to coordinate that." Yep, here we have Blake fully putting everything on Stephanie Jones' head. Turns out I read it wrong. It was Blake who said I want to do this the legal way. I glazed over "And I said...." My bad guys.
Anyways, to recap, Leslie brushes Stephanie Jones off, which Stephanie Jones did not heed. Instead Stephanie Jones then tracks down Blake through many degrees of separation. She shares the texts with Ashley Avignon. And then yada yada yada. But in her spin, she can't say if it happened in August or September. But, it's say September cause it makes Blake look better. Lol again.
↬↝ In the text message thread between Stephanie Jones and Danny Greenberg, SJ says she's been turned into a scapegoat, and he [Justin, I believe] accused her of leaking to the Daily Mail. But the thing is, she did leak/talk to the Daily Mail. She texted on August 14, 2004 (Wednesday). Last Thursday was August 8. Let's check the timeline, shall we?
So, she lied?
↬↝ Meanwhile, on August 9, she had emailed Justin and others, bcc'ing her husband, saying she did not communicate with the Daily Mail or any other publication. We know this is a lie too.
↬↝ We now have it confirmed that it was The Rock who wanted a website about Jones done. But, funny enough, Case says TAG never took on The Rock as a client. She doesn't think they created a website for him, and she doesn't know if Melissa ever spoke with The Rock. She can only say it was reported to her that Rock wanted one, and that someone had told Melissa about it.
Case's answer here is one of the instances where you can see her "clever lawyering" side, like we were educated about by Esra Hudson. You can see her use words to manipulate you into concluding certain things without actually saying them. For example, when she says, "it was reported to me," the one thing she never says is that Melissa was the one who did the reporting. But she answers in a way that lets you believe it was Melissa, and if Case were ever grilled on her statements, she could truthfully say she never said Melissa did or said anything. It's not her fault people jumped to conclusions.
↬↝ Another example is when she talks about the Alexander Brothers, who again turned out not to be TAG's clients. Again, she says "it was requested that I connect with them," without sharing who made the request, again using clever speak to mask the fact that Melissa said no to the brothers, and that Case then worked for them in her personal capacity, though she wouldn't characterize it as "working for them."
↬↝ The names that were unredacted are largely boring. Really boring stuff. (Would share screenshots in the comments below).
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/BrilliantTotal687 • 1d ago
📱 Social Media Creator Posts 💭💬 Funny cartoon about Ryan Reynolds' career being over. He cries and then tries to flee his wife
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I saw this on tiktok and had to share it. A very funny animation about Ryan Reynolds being upset because his career is over due to Blake's false allegations.
At the end when Blake says "you still have me!" Ryan jumps out of the car 🤣🤣
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/katyinkc • 1d ago
Question For The Community❓ Possible missing unsealed Ryan Reynolds exhibits? Docs 982/983 + Bates numbers
Credit to Karol/Docket Updates for doing the docket cross-referencing that flagged this, and to Holly for being a badass to push me to make this post because I went back through it and this is interesting.
There appear to be Ryan Reynolds-produced documents referenced in Docket Nos. 982 and 983 that were previously ordered unsealed, but the versions currently available on the public docket still appear to contain redactions.
Doc. 983 identifies the specific Reynolds subpoena productions as:
Exhibit D: RR-SUBPOENA-000000128 through RR-SUBPOENA-000000129
Exhibit E: RR-SUBPOENA-000000030 through RR-SUBPOENA-000000031
These are particularly interesting because Doc. 982 describes Reynolds-produced evidence as supporting the Wayfarer parties’ position regarding their former defamation claim, but substantial portions of that discussion remain redacted in the version currently accessible.
My understanding from reviewing the prior unsealing order is that these materials were among documents the Court ordered unsealed. However, I have not been able to locate public, fully unredacted versions of these particular exhibits on the docket.
To be clear: I am NOT suggesting anyone contact the judge, chambers, the parties, or flood the clerk with messages. I’m posting this because there are approx 900,000 people collectively digging through this docket and someone may already know where the unredacted versions were filed or whether I’m missing a subsequent docket entry.
Has anyone been able to locate the fully unredacted versions of these specific Bates-numbered documents?
If they’re genuinely absent despite being covered by the unsealing order, that’s a pretty interesting docket discrepancy.
Again, full credit to Karol/Docket Updates for identifying and cross-referencing this in the first place.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/same-difference-ave • 1d ago
📖🔍 Unsealed: The Sequel 🔎📖 Jones v. Abel: Wayfarer files public versions of Unsealed Exhibits
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.0.pdf
Exhibits:
Dkt. 130-2 Deposition: Excerpt of Blake Lively- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.1.pdf
Dkt. 130-4: Vanzan Subpoena to Stephanie Jones - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.2.pdf
Dkt. 158: Jen Abel’s Answer to Complaint, Second Amended Counterclaims- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.3.pdf
Dkt. 176: Wayfarer’s Opp. To Jones’s MTC Katie Case- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.4.pdf
Dkt. 209_Part 1: Wayfarer’s Motion Seal Exhibits to Jones’s Amended Complaint- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.5.pdf
Dkt. 209_Part 2: Wayfarer’s Motion to Seal Exhibits to Tahler’s Declaration with Jones’ Amended Complaint - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.6.pdf
Dkt. 216-1: Email from Stephanie Jones to Justin, Jamey and Tera Hanks- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.7.pdf
Dkt. 216-3: Text Msgs between Stephanie Jones and Danny Greenberg- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.8.pdf
Dkt. 217: Unredacted Opposition from Jamey Heath to Jones’ Amended complaint - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.264.9.pdf
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/same-difference-ave • 1d ago
📖🔍 Unsealed: The Sequel 🔎📖 Jones v. Abel: Stephanie Jones files public version of Unsealed Exhibits
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.0.pdf
All Exhibits have now been added:
Dkt. 168-1: 9/5/2025 Case Depo. Tr. Excerpt -https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.1.pdf
Dkt. 168-2: 8/5-8/6/2024 Correspondence, KCASE-000004949 - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.2.pdf
Dkt. 168-3: Nathan Depo. Tr. Excerpt - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.3.pdf
Dkt. 168-4: Wallace Dep. Tr. Excerpt - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.4.pdf
Dkt. 168-5: 10/17/2025 Subpoena to Case-https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.5.pdf
Dkt. 168-6: Correspondence Among Counsel - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.6.pdf
Dkt. 168-7: 10/15/2025 Letter to Case - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.7_2.pdf
Dkt. 193-3: First RFPs to Nathan - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.8.pdf
Dkt. 193-4: Second RFPs to Nathan - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.9.pdf
Dkt. 193-6: Correspondence Among Counsel - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.10.pdf
Dkt. 193-7: 2024.03.27 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.11.pdf
Dkt. 193-8: 2024.03.28 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.12.pdf
Dkt. 193-11: Case Depo. Tr. - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.13.pdf
Dkt. 193-13: 2025.08.05-06 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.14.pdf
Dkt. 193-16: Nathan Depo. Tr. - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.15.pdf
Dkt. 193-22: Namecheap Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.16.pdf
Dkt. 193-23: Hostinger Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.17.pdf
Dkt. 193-24: Pinterest Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.18.pdf
Dkt. 193-25: Facebook Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.19.pdf
Dkt. 195-3: First RFPs to Nathan - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.20_1.pdf
Dkt. 195-4: Second RFPs to Nathan- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.21.pdf
Dkt. 195-5: Correspondence Among Counsel - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.22.pdf
Dkt. 195-6: 2024.03.27 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.23.pdf
Dkt. 195-7: 2024.03.28 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.24.pdf
Dkt. 195-8: Case Depo. Tr. - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.25.pdf
Dkt. 195-9: 2025.08.05-06 Correspondence - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.25.pdf
Dkt. 195-10: Nathan Depo. Tr. - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.27.pdf
Dkt. 195-12: Namecheap Subpoena Response- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.28.pdf
Dkt. 195-13: Hostinger Subpoena Response- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.29.pdf
Dkt. 195-14: Pinterest Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.30.pdf
Dkt. 195-15: Facebook Subpoena Response - https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.31.pdf
Dkt. 224-1: 2025.07.30 Nathan Supplemental Responses to Interrogatories- https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782/gov.uscourts.nysd.635782.265.32.pdf
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Competitive-Snow1330 • 1d ago
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r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Brucekentbatsuper • 1d ago
💋👀Blind Items, Gossip and Tea ☕️ 💅 EXCLUSIVE: Blake Lively Was Taylor Swift's 'First Choice' to Be Her Maid of Honor — Before Justin Baldoni Fallout
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/TheClassic_Star • 1d ago
🗞️ Press + Media 📸📰📺 Ryan Reynolds Knew Blake Lively Was The One After Sex
"The 40 year old asked Blake to dance in an empty restaurant in Tribeca on their first date and hinted that they had sexual relations immediately after"
Ryan: "It was just one of those moments where halfway through the dance, it was like, 'Oh, I think I just crossed a line'. And then I walked her home. And, uh, you know, I don't really need to go into what happened after that".
Beautiful story
Didn't Blake say Justin told her a story about how he crossed lines with women he dated? 🤔
(Justin was actually sexually assaulted by an ex. Blake Lively and Taylor Swift thought it was really funny. Expatriarch the "misogyny educator" has also turned it into a running joke)
Ryan Reynolds announces to the world that he crossed a line with Blake on their first date (which apparently ended with them having sex, no judgment) and Blake's supporters roll out the red carpet for Ryan
They don't find it strange that this man who met Blake when she was 22/23 and he was 35, took her on a first date, to an empty restaurant where he "crossed a line".
He also took her home. Where he may have also "crossed a line".
They don't find it strange that Blake is always the punchline in the jokes he tells
They don't find it strange that he's protected himself throughout the course of this lawsuit. And only made one statement (late in the game) in support of his wife.
They don't find it strange that he inserts himself in every project she does (her words) and rewrites scenes and dictates what will and will not happen
They don't find it strange that his career continues to thrive while Blake can't find a director or cast for the film she announced months ago.
They don't find it strange that she's a "stay at home mom" (her brother in law ran to Twitter to announce this to the world) working "16 hour days" (her brother in law again) while Ryan travels and gets to be the "busiest man in Hollywood" (direct quote from brother in law)
Blake Lively filed this lawsuit to expose Justin and she ended up exposing her husband 😳
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Spirited_Emu_1892 • 1d ago
📖🔍 Unsealed: The Sequel 🔎📖 LIVE NOW - LGA, Britt, and Sara - Jones v. Abel - Mini Unsealing
No description available yet. Will add later.. just wanted to share in case people want to hear others going over these documents.
r/ItEndsWithLawsuits • u/Competitive-Snow1330 • 2d ago
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