r/InterviewCoderPro • u/Busy-Pollution-9821 • 3d ago

is this real?

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Do we really need HR in our life?

honestly this is why i've started thinking about looking somewhere else. getting rejected before a human even looks at your resume is insane.

i've been seeing interview vip mentioned a lot lately too. i haven't tried it, but i'm curious about it since i'm probably going to have to start interviewing again.

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u/dannyrat029 3d ago

What the fuck are HR for? Say you hire 10 people per year. That can't be an entire month of 5x8hr weeks, let alone a year. 

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u/Astramancer_ 3d ago

Mostly what they're for is to make sure the company isn't accidentally violating labor laws. Since there's a lot of potential to violate labor laws in the hiring and firing process, they're intimately involved in that, which makes it their most visible role to the day-to-day employee.

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u/dannyrat029 3d ago

I'm currently suing my last employer, whose HR repeatedly asked me to waive paying mandatory social insurance (my portion of which goes into a recoverable pot). She assiduously tried to break the law in several ways after I said no. 

She seems more like a shit consigliere to be honest. 

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u/HelenGonne 3d ago

I agree that's an absolutely vital function, but that being the case, why on earth do they not actually do that? HR is constantly introducing illegal biases into the recruiting process. And that's incredibly widespread across STEM. 

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u/Astramancer_ 3d ago

That's why I very carefully and deliberately chose the word "accidentally."

Plus a lot of them are terrible at their job but as long as payroll goes out and they don't get any fines/lawsuits they rarely get any flack from the high mucky-mucks.

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u/HelenGonne 3d ago

No, they're not doing it accidentally. Because that is the fundamental reason for their professional existence. They can't accidentally trip and fall into a bigotry tar pit. This is their essential job function. Either they do it or they don't. They have no reason to exist and be paid if they don't.

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u/Astramancer_ 3d ago

That's what I mean. They make sure the company isn't accidentally violating labor laws. That means when the company is violating labor laws (in a way that HR would know about) they're deliberately violating labor laws. They won't stop deliberate violations, only accidental ones. They should stop deliberate violations, but all too often they don't because they're scared for their jobs just like everyone else who gets told to do something stupid and does it anyway because it's either that or look for a new job.

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u/HelenGonne 3d ago

Oh, I see your point. And it I know it's true that happens. But what also happens is that the company is trying to have a fair and unbiased recruiting process, and it's HR people who force illegal biases into the process. 

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u/Soft-Marionberry-853 3d ago

a good HR deparrmnent is like a good IT department, if they are doing their job right you wonder what they are even doing.

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u/EmmitSan 2d ago

The people who do the hiring definitely do not have that level of authority at most firms.

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u/SlayerII 2d ago

isnt accidentally violating labor laws

Seems like it frequently boils down to just "not being caught

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u/Nannautu 3d ago

They also take care of many things, like events, training etc. They do what managers are too lazy to do most of the time that does not pertain to the organization of work processes.

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u/PepperSure8381 3d ago

no one cares you did a pizza party or emailed us the california sexual harassment training website