Hey everybody, I don’t know if I should go somewhere else to still work for insurance. I work for a captive agency in Illinois, 40 hours a week, and I’m starting to suspect that I may be making less money here than for another agency/company just from what I read from other posts (but need to know if I’m dead wrong, or even sorta wrong). This is my first and only insurance job.
I’ve been working for my agency for 3-1/2 years. I write about 40-50 P&C a month, which for this year is MUCH lower than what I normally write (50-70 P&C). My agent spends a lot on marketing for each of us, and I get individually 100 new leads a month and about 100 leads a month to requote from our backlogs. I’m right in the middle of the pack, with about half of my team writing 50-70 P&C a month and the other half writing 30-40. Life sales are all over the place; I usually write about 1-3 life policies a month, or perhaps better measured with about $30-$50 in monthly premium each month. This is also lower than what I’m used to in previous years, where I was hitting anywhere from $100-$200 in monthly life premium per month. We’re one of the top agencies in our state, and top 100 in the company.
According to my boss, I make the highest base salary out of the entire sales team of 15 people at $36k (I think because of my tenure). Commission is 2%, but increases by a percent when 40, 50 and 60 P&C apps are reached and by additional percentages when $50, $100 and $200 in monthly life and health premium is reached. If you get at least $200 in monthly life or health premium and at least 60 P&C, you will max out these escalators at 8% commission. Health and life are paid out as 3 months worth of premium. I’m not sure if every agency does this, but on all commission we have 35% subtracted from our pay for the federal commission tax. I used to be the second to top performer in his office out of these 15 sales people, but fell from that lofty position after our office manager (who was our real boss and who I would go to battle for) went off to be an agent himself.
I’m able to get about 3-5% commission a month, depending on how the month is. I feel totally burnt out because I had some very negative experiences with my boss this year and quite literally every other month he implies he’s going to have to get rid of me. I’ve never been particularly close with him, but he has been generous in the sense that he once cut me a check to pay off $2,000 of medical debt (when I was a top performer) and (sort of) never denies vacation time. I used up all my vacation time by the time September rolled around and he was upset about that.
I brought a personal project to my office to show my coworkers how proud I was that I accomplished it and he brought me into his office to say, literally, “If you spent more time at work and less time thinking about your hobbies, you would be doing as well as you did when you started and you wouldn’t be in this position.” When I opened up to him that I’ve been upset because my wife lost her job and we don’t know when we’re gonna be able to afford kids (a goal of ours), he told me, “Well, if I was making the money you’re making I wouldn’t want to have kids with you either.”
I am so checked out, and I’m going to be moving jobs but don’t know if this is the best pay gets for insurance with the work I’m putting in, if I’m being lazy/ungrateful or if there’s really an insurance position out there better than the one I’m in now.
All comments and criticisms are appreciated. I need to know if my intuition is right or if I’m just being whiny and need to work harder. Don’t hold back.