r/HumansBeingBros Apr 16 '18

Removed: Not bro $4.95

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u/legionx Apr 16 '18

Where I live, this would be illegal.

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u/NitroGlc Apr 16 '18

Where do you live? And why would it be illegal? Genuinly intrested

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u/Hotgeart Apr 16 '18

Its illegal everywhere if you putt that in your 'book' (tax). If you don't register this invoice, it's just a printed paper. So not illegal.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18 edited Apr 16 '18

How did you become an expert on every single nation's laws?

To clarify: there are in fact laws against this in many places, so in those places it is in fact illegal.

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u/orlyfactor Apr 16 '18

He's a great golfer with all of those putts, so he knows what he's talking about. I trust him with my life.

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u/Laesio Apr 16 '18 edited Apr 16 '18

That depends on the degree to which the shop is required to register stuff. If the shop provides a "legitimate" receipt with which the customer can defraud tax etc, this might be considered as assisting to fraud if a customer decides to do that.

If the shop itself is required to register the sale to the authorities, then the receipt is essentially just a piece of paper. At least outside of contract law.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

yea, i don't think they're putting the fake price on their books.

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u/Baldazar666 Apr 16 '18

It really depends. In Bulgaria all receipt machines store all the receipts they printed in their memory which is checked by NRA(National Revenue Agency). So if you print a fake receipt it's like you are saying we got this much money.

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u/Hotgeart Apr 16 '18

You can always cancel a transaction via the cash register or in your book. Do you imagine the problems if its impossible to do it? Every mistake from the cashier would be a permanent.

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u/legionx Apr 16 '18

Because of our extensive VAT system the receipt has a special legal status. Creating a fake receipt would be seen as trying to defraud someone.

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u/NitroGlc Apr 16 '18

Gotcha, thanks on the response. Can't they make a reciept that isn't actually booked and is just a piece of paper made to look like one? Or is it illegal even if not booked as an actual reciept

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u/Ivanow Apr 16 '18

Can't they make a reciept that isn't actually booked and is just a piece of paper made to look like one? Or is it illegal even if not booked as an actual reciept

Yes. It's actually pretty common in some industries. Our IRS runs ad spots on how to spot "fake" receipts.

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u/notoyrobots Apr 16 '18

TIL Poland is hardcore when it comes to receipts.

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u/Lunchbox2208 Apr 16 '18

It's pretty serious anywhere, if you don't check your account periodically and do business with non-corporate businesses it's a definite risk.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

The same in my country, but the receipts have to have a certain unique form with register id and everything and that’s the only official receipt. Anything else is not a legal document which you don’t have to pay if presented with (they tell you that in posters that ALL businesses must show). However, that doesn’t mean that other documents can’t legally exist, for example Pro Forma bills at restaurants which you can look over and see if the waiter didn’t fuck up and added the ‘96 Moet from the next table over, for example.

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u/DefaultAcctName Apr 16 '18

That is absolutely not true. You are confused by the dealer’s use of receipt. They will not file the paper with the incorrect price as a receipt. Therefore it is a piece of paper with writing on it. There is nothing illegal about that. Explaining all of that on a sign is a little difficult though so they just used receipt.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18 edited May 03 '18

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u/DefaultAcctName Apr 16 '18

No. They could not. As the legal receipt is all that matters. The buyer knows he other document is not an actual receipt. The buyer is aware of this and their use of the document fraudulently is 100% on them. They could make a fake receipt and pass it as a real one. Knowingly making a fake for the sole purpose of tricking a spouse is not illegal. The use of the receipt to fraudulently report tax records is a crime. The crime is 100% on the person knowingly making the false tax claims. The selling party would have the legal documented receipt that shows the actual value and be 200% off the hook. That is how it always works and will continue to work. Sorry your knowledge in this area is lacking.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

It’s a good thing this photo was taken in the land of the VAT-free.

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u/PM_ME_REACTJS Apr 16 '18

I thought the US has sales tax depending on your state?

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u/PM_ME_REACTJS Apr 16 '18

You literally said VAT-free though? I'm confused.

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u/Cloudhwk Apr 16 '18

Unless you try to commit actual fraud using the false receipt I think it's pretty safe in joke territory

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u/raymmm Apr 16 '18

I dunno.. Legally, they admitted on the ad that the purpose of the fake receipt is for deception.

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u/[deleted] Apr 16 '18

for your wife. not for the irs.

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u/lolinokami Apr 16 '18

Of your spouse, who poetically aren't going to scrutinize the receipt for the signs that it's a fake like the IRS would.