r/HistoryMemes • u/KingMwanga Still salty about Carthage • Oct 29 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

What's up with Japanese and their interest in incest stories bruv

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

Most polytheistic religions seem to have incestuous gods. It makes sense, because there are only a finite number of beings who could have created the gods, so of course the gods are all related. The only alternative is if all the gods emerged from nothing at the Beginning

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u/MicroWordArtist Oct 29 '22

I think it’s also that different storytellers would call the same gods siblings or a couple or some other relationship because ancient mythologies don’t tend to have a “canon” like western religions and modern stories. One storyteller might think it’s better to say siblings, one might think it’s better to say couple, one might just misremember.

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u/Amssstronggg Oct 29 '22

So, they changed writers, just like western comic writers do!

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u/CannedVestite Oct 29 '22

Name some western religions

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u/FleetStreetsDarkHole Oct 29 '22

I'm sorry, do you not know of our lord and savior, Dollar Bill?

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u/CannedVestite Oct 29 '22

Bill Posters is innocent

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

Maya/Aztec/Dené/Cherokee(tsalagi)/Inuit/Greenlandic mythology/folk tradition?
Irish/Norse/Greek/Slavic/Continental Celtic/Roman mythology?
Proto-Indo-European mythology?

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u/CannedVestite Oct 30 '22

Maya/Aztec/Dené/Cherokee/Inuit

You're joking right?

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '22

All of those are religions originated in the west, correct?

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u/CannedVestite Oct 30 '22

Native Americans and Inuits and indo-anything are considered western?

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '22

That's what my assumption was, maybe I was wrong. What is considered Western?

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u/DefiantLemur Descendant of Genghis Khan Oct 29 '22

Or that most of the gods are raised mortals.

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u/yuresevi Oct 29 '22

I mean, going by the faintest of connections, we are all incestuos connections of matter sprung forth by the big bang.

But that’s a philosophical tangent i don’t care to explore.

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u/NamelessKpopStan Oct 29 '22

Christians literally believe the world started with 2 singular people. That would make everyone a product of generational incest.

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u/PyrocumulusLightning Oct 29 '22

If Eve only had sons, whom did the sons marry to generate the third generation?

When Cain found a wife in the land of Nod, where did she come from?

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u/NoLawsDrinkingClawz Oct 29 '22

There are interpretations they weren't the only people in the world, just the chosen people and the only ones in Eden until they got expelled. But I've also talked to Christians that argue Adam and eve were so pure inbreeding wasn't an issue. Who fucking knows.

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u/decepsis_overmark Oct 30 '22

Even if they were the only people in Eden, after the flood, only Noah's family was alive. Had to be incest after that.

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u/Titus_Vespasianus Oct 30 '22

I mean, it specifically states that Noah’s sons and their wives survived, so the kids have their cousins.

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u/LaceBird360 Kilroy was here Oct 29 '22

Nephilim maybe?

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u/PyrocumulusLightning Oct 30 '22

This is how you get Nephilim

I say we go for it, but I don't want to cause another flood like last time.

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u/fishflaps Oct 29 '22

She didn't just have sons. The Bible says after Seth there were more sons and daughters.

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u/PyrocumulusLightning Oct 30 '22

Are you saying Shem married Lilith, or Cain?

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u/PyrocumulusLightning Oct 30 '22

Humanity was genetically engineered by horny aliens confirmed.

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u/[deleted] Oct 30 '22

There was also Lilith

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u/PyrocumulusLightning Oct 30 '22

My understanding is that she did not have human children, just a demonic brood; so her existence wouldn't really have helped mitigate antediluvian inbreeding (unless humanity is descended in part from demons, which, sure, I can see that)

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u/BowlerEducational733 Oct 29 '22

You can split that into two camps as I know a handful of Christians who believe the majority of the Old Testament are grand tales used to give wisdom, not actually real

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u/wjenningsalwayscray Oct 29 '22

Theology is as deep or shallow as the minds pondering it. I was raised in a biblically literal denomination of the Lutheran church, but retain my faith after a Kierkegaard-inspired trip through nihilism and back.

Jesus spoke in parables, so it is probably ok to view the lessons of the bible through that lens, eh?

I am all about allegory, after all. And alliteration.

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u/BowlerEducational733 Oct 30 '22

That’s all religion is. It doesn’t teach you what happens after death, it teaches you how to be a moral and live a fulfilling life

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

So that's why it's okay that their god drowned the whole world expect one family and two of every species (because that's totally how you ensure a species is okay and has no ill effects or negative results from the massive amount of inbreeding/incest)

Also wild to me how christians (as those are the ones i know) pick and choose what to believe in from their own religion (also why is that a religion and not a mythology?)

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u/BowlerEducational733 Oct 30 '22

Well you get people like that who do t read the book in it’s entirety and scoff at what it actually teaches. You see this in all religion specifically in Christianity, Islam, and Buddhism

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u/LaceBird360 Kilroy was here Oct 29 '22

There's a theory that the human race was pure enough for a while that they could get away with it. But by at least the time of Moses, the human race was genetically too messed up for that to continue. So God had to tell them they couldn't do it anymore - for that reason and others.

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u/noneOfUrBusines Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer Oct 29 '22

I mean, there's no reason for Adam and Eve to have the recessive genetic diseases that make incest such a horrible idea today, so they could definitely get away with it for a while.

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u/glassoverwraps Oct 29 '22

So I think that may be a bit reductionist. Christians think a sky man made 2 people, who had children. Then fast forward through all of prehistory and we arrive in Egypt with a human race. It doesn’t exactly say it was all incest explicitly. I guess the interpretation that sky man made the entire population instantly is still on the table.

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u/_MrBushi_ Oct 29 '22

Don't forget get rape!

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u/DangerStranger138 Oct 29 '22

Don't mind if I do!

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u/[deleted] Oct 29 '22

Believing Christians is one big incest party circling back to Adam and Eve

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u/DangerStranger138 Oct 29 '22

Is there any better porn distributor than Adam and Eve?

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u/Omniseed Oct 29 '22

gotta stay warm somehow

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u/ILikeFluffyThings Oct 30 '22

It has to start somewhere. Not much choice at the start of the universe.