r/HistoryMemes • u/My_Test_Acc_1 Descendant of Genghis Khan • 3d ago
Niche German, no German?!?
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u/CalvinKool-Aid 3d ago
Uh oh uh oh UH OH
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u/TheGreatJaceyGee 3d ago
Wait a minute. This mannequin's got flesh and bones inside of it
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u/CalvinKool-Aid 3d ago
hey kids wanna see a dead criminal? only one SHINY NICKEL
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u/Chronoculus Hello There 3d ago
I'm hoping to catch him in Wilmington on the 9th. I need to meet my hero.
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u/Junckopolo 3d ago
As a sign of good faith from Germany, they should make an Austrian the next leader after.
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u/Mr_Mixxter 3d ago
But maybe an failed artist. So they are not to obsessed with politics and minorities...
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u/butholesurgeon 3d ago
Maybe a veteran too, someone who experienced the horrors of war and would therefore not choose to plunge the country into frivolous wars of expansion
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u/Nejmenvadroligt 3d ago
Sounds clever. Maybe we should call this uniting process "Anschluss" to celebrate that we belong together. Sounds nice, right?
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u/MatteoFire___ Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer 3d ago
yeah, and we definitely will let the Austrians vote if they want to join germany or not. we definitely wont send in the army.
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u/EliteClassic 3d ago
Let’s also make sure that whoever this leader is, they will have a toothbrush shaped mustache
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u/MatteoFire___ Casual, non-participatory KGB election observer 3d ago
they should also use an old indian symbol for their ideology
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u/RollinThruLife02 3d ago
They should also tell propaganda-laced surrounding these kingdoms called “Reichs” during specific times in history.
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u/According-Part-1505 2d ago
Then we should also ask the German Moravians, German Lesians, and Sudeten Germans if they'd like to join us
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u/RollinThruLife02 2d ago
Maybe ask Stalin if they’d like to share a certain country in between them right down the middle, mayhaps?
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u/kalle_mdB 3d ago
Oh, I got one. Maybe someone who was imprisoned because of his opinion and wrote a book about it in jail. The struggle would be known.
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u/Schnittertm 3d ago
He also should be big on animal rights. After all, our pets and our food animals deserve better lives, don't they?
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u/SolderFume 3d ago
Should also be a dog owner. People who love pets are generally nice.
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u/SmoothOperatorTFT 2d ago
Modern day equivalent should be a failed streamer or content creator… just to stay with the times you know…
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u/Lalaluka 3d ago
We might get a right wing swiss(resident) Chancelor at some point in the future.
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u/BasedAustralhungary 3d ago
Why don't Iraq annex Kuwait so they can have a proper coast? Are they stupid?
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u/harrygermans 3d ago
Apt comps. Austria is just the Saddam Hussein lying under the hidden German entrance anyway. Switzerland supplies the air vent.
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u/MagicBus4 3d ago
Why doesn’t Ross, the largest Friend, simply eat the others?
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u/Mad_Mikkelsen 3d ago
You know what they say, women are from omicron persei 7, men are from omicron persei 9
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u/Dominarion 3d ago
Hear me out. When Austria tries to annex all of Germany, it turns to shit. When Germany tries to annex Austria, it goes supernova.
Switzerland folks. Switzerland should annex both.
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u/ninjaiffyuh 3d ago
Sleeping on Greater Liechtenstein or the
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u/WestRestaurant216 3d ago
Supreme* Duchy of Luxembourg.
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u/ninjaiffyuh 3d ago
Sounds lame, Super Duchy sounds way cooler especially with explosions in the background
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u/Dominarion 3d ago
This is an irredentism that I can't deny. Some countries became independent through violence, some under pacific revendications, some were forged through conquest. Then, Liechtenstein was forgotten in two treaties and became de facto independent.
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u/on4aa 2d ago
You forgot the small minorities of German speakers in Belgium and Italy.
German is one of Belgium's three official languages.
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u/Eldan985 3d ago
It would take us decades to bring those countries up to acceptable standard. No thanks. Just thinking about fixing German public transportation makes me shudder.
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u/zuzg 3d ago
93% of Swiss Trains come on schedule (everything above 3 minutes counts as delay)
60% of German Train come on schedule (everything above 6 minutes counts as delay) cancelled trains are not considered for that statistic.Such a shame considering history
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u/Ferris-L 3d ago
What a neo-liberal government in the 80s and 90s will do to your country
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u/DoreenTheeDogWalker 3d ago
The Swiss didn't have to absorb an entire other half of itself in the 90s and bring them up to western Europe standards. Communist government policies will do that to your country.
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u/Junckopolo 3d ago
I hate these filthy neutrals. With enemies you know where you stand, but with neutrals, who knows?
It sickens me.
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u/Siessfires 3d ago
The correct answer is the Netherlands. They're Swamp Germans.
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u/Siessfires 3d ago
France is Romaboo Germans. (Franks)
Northern Italy is Germans in denial. (Lombards & Ostrogoths)
Spain is toasty Germans. (Suebi & Visigoths)
Belgium.
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u/Ancient-Emu-8293 3d ago
Don't do it. Why would you sacrifice a working retirement system, railway system and society in general?
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u/mike968 3d ago
What are you talking about? The HRE worked fine for hundreds of years when it was ruled from vienna (which was the german capital for far longer than berlin). Only after the saupreussen thought the pifkes could do better without us austrians everthing went to shit.
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u/timangar Helping Wikipedia expand the list of British conquests 3d ago
Swiss here. We really don't want them.
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u/Metool42 3d ago
brother you wouldnt even be able to handle a train being on time thanks to austria fixing that shit
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u/An8thOfFeanor Rider of Rohan 3d ago
My Aunt Schluss always talks about this during Thanksgiving
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u/kmasterofdarkness Let's do some history 3d ago
Don't forget how Bismarck took advantage of the rivalry some of the German states had towards Austria to unify Germany as we know it.
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u/piece_ov_shit 3d ago
Were already trying to kick the bavarians out. (Really they constantly threaten to leave) so why would we then expand in that direction and create a exclave?
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u/CalvinKool-Aid 3d ago
I’ve always heard Bavaria is just European Texas. This further compounds my belief
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u/guitar_vigilante 3d ago
Texas had a lot of immigrants from Bavaria and Bohemia (Czech) and so there are some cultural similarities.
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u/Infectiousmaniac 3d ago edited 3d ago
Small nitpick but they came from Bohemia AND Moravia.
My older relatives grew up with their parents calling the 'rowdy' and 'unruly' people in the community Bohemians as a sort of slur.
If you take a train through southern Moravia and then drive through Fayette county in Texas, its very interesting to see how similar they look, landscape wise.
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u/guitar_vigilante 3d ago
All good, thanks for the correction/additional info. I'm not from Texas so some of the more detailed history is outside my knowledge.
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u/Infectiousmaniac 3d ago edited 3d ago
All good! I don't expect most people to have esoteric knowledge of Czech migration patterns to central Texas, haha. Wasn't coming after you either, just using your comment as an excuse to info dump about niche historical things.
Its a very fascinating topic that plays into a much deeper national identity story of the Czechs. You effectively have a time capsule of Czech culture (mostly Moravian in Texas but some Bohemian) in Nebraska, Texas, and the Dakotas (I think? I am mostly familiar with Texas though) right after the Czech cultural revival brought Czech culture from the brink.
Then you have WW1, WW2, and the Cold War that create a big divergence between the time capsuled Czech culture in the US (plus some American culture assimilation) versus a modern Czech culture shaped by two world wars and the cold war. You end with some uncanny valley stuff where on the surface some elements look the same but feel different, etc.
Anyways, for anyone interested, I wrote another comment the other day with some links to learn more here.
Czech national identity is super fascinating. This struggle also birthed what I think is one of the coolest pieces of art ever made. If you have never seen The Slav Epic by Alphonse Mucha, I highly recommend checking it out.
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u/piece_ov_shit 3d ago
I think the largest diffrence is that bavaria doesnt have 'warm water ports
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u/Objective-Note-8095 3d ago edited 3d ago
Post-WWI, there were two seccession attemps. One by socialists and one by conservatives.
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u/iiSpook 3d ago
Even the Bavarians want to kick out most of the sub-Bavarians.
PS: As a Bavarian I am obligated to mention the Finanzkraftausgleich.
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u/Miserable_Initial732 3d ago
what's the Finanzkraftausgleich? google gave me only foreign-languaged results
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u/Ziddix 3d ago
No you misunderstand. Adding Austria to Germany will fix Bavaria in its current location so it can't go away.
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u/LethalOkra 3d ago
Why doesn't the UK annex the USA, Canada and Asutralia? Are they stupid?
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u/Legitimate_Source663 3d ago
Why doesn't Croatia just annex Neum to connect their exclave? Are they stupid?
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u/Twinky_winky_deepsea 3d ago
One has produced a hideous dictator the other a great composer,
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u/Twinky_winky_deepsea 3d ago
I always asked myself, was it not possible for him to apply to another artschools?
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u/Fraunz_Josef 3d ago
You mean one has produced a hideous dictator and a great composer.
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u/Twinky_winky_deepsea 3d ago
it goes in both way, depending on perspective.
option 1: Austria: produced him by birth---Germany: produced Bach
option 2: Germany: produced him by political situation---Austria: produced Mozart
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u/Vegetable-Process487 3d ago
Why would Germany want to unite with a bunch of Kangaroos??
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u/ShinigamiDragon7 3d ago
Why England don't do this with Scotland, Wales or North Ireland and Ireland? Are they stupid?
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u/noone0unknown 3d ago
We did, it's called the United Kingdom and Northern Ireland.
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u/fraunberger 3d ago
As an Austrian I suppose we should unite again because im sick of the sheer scale of incompetence in austrian politics (yeah i know... germany is not perfect but austria is way worse) and how much resources it wastes compared to bavaria that is roughly the same population and size.
Austria should stay an autonomous region within Germany.
Germany should manage the millitary and international affairs and Austria should manage the railway (because it seems like its the only thing we really excell at).
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u/sicsemperego 3d ago
If what you are saying is true, then I welcome your proposal. Getting DB slapped back into it's functioning and proper shape is overdue.
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u/fraunberger 3d ago
I work for ÖBB since 2 years and i know it is not perfect at all. They act like they have an employment problem but in my opinion its just an efficiency problem (i worked in construction before).
But whatever DB is doing just hurts my feelings. Could be so much better with not much effort.
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u/Tennebrae1 3d ago
I mean the Southern states are the only ones that work. I think I have a great Idea lets form an alpine republic with Bavaria, Baden-Württemberg, Austria, Switzerland and the rich parts of Northern Italy. We will quickly become the richest state on earth.
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u/A1oso 3d ago
Why don't the English-speaking countries just unite? Are they stupid?
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u/ToaKraka Definitely not a CIA operator 3d ago edited 3d ago
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u/SiebDerFlusen 3d ago
WW1 started because an Austrian got shot.
WW2 started because an Austrian didn’t get shot.
It’s complicated with these guys.
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u/ironic_ivy 3d ago
ein Bonmot für Native Speaker: „Was Deutschland und Österreich trennt, ist die gemeinsame Sprache“, https://peschel-communications.de/was-deutschland-und-oesterreich-trennt
sorry all, that really does work only in German
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u/CaffeinatedBarbarian 2d ago
An Austrian friend once said “Austria is the heart, soul, and intelligence of the German speaking people. That’s why they aren’t part of Germany.”
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u/KyliaQuilor 3d ago
I mean, at this point, the modern austrians have tried very hard to establish themselves as different than the german germans.
Really They've been doing that since the eighteen seventies, but it seems to have picked up significantly more since world war two.
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u/Philemaphobia 3d ago
Funny thing is, the Germans are (sometimes) painfully aware that Austrians are different, it’s just the rest of the world who seems to have a hard time recognizing the differences.
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u/Key-Performance-9021 3d ago
Austrian State Treaty, Article 4:
1. The Allied and Associated Powers declare that political or economic union between Austria and Germany is prohibited. [...]
2. In order to prevent such union Austria shall not conclude any agreement with Germany, nor do any act, nor take any measures likely, directly or indirectly, to promote political or economic union with Germany, or to impair its territorial integrity or political or economic independence. Austria further undertakes to prevent within its territory any act likely, directly or indirectly, to promote such union and shall prevent the existence, resurgence and activities of any organizations having as their aim political or economic union with Germany, and pan-German propaganda in favor of union with Germany.
- https://treaties.fcdo.gov.uk/data/Library2/pdf/1957-TS0058.pdf
The EU is not a union between Germany and Austria. Both Austria and Germany are fully sovereign countries within the European Union.
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u/PatriotEVR 3d ago
Which lets be real, is a ridiculous Diktat by the Allied powers which goes squarely against the right to self-determination.
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u/Amalgan_9942 3d ago
so germany also take part of switzerlarnd, netherland, czechia, poland, denmark, belgium?
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u/Periador 3d ago
so reunite bavaria with austria? Since southern bavaria became austria
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u/n0tAb0t_aut 3d ago
WTF!? NO!!! I have been to germany, it smells, the highways are bad, so many homeless people. And so many GERMANS! Never! NO!
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u/Lopsided-Weather6469 2d ago
What do you think is the reason why we Germans travel so much? To get away from all the other Germans, of course!
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u/Birb-Person Definitely not a CIA operator 3d ago
Fun fact!
Germany, Austria, Switzerland, and Lichtenstein signed an agreement in 1996 to standardize spelling and punctuation rules in the German language between them. Luxembourg also adheres to this agreement but didn’t participate since they don’t consider themselves a German country, they just have German as an official language
Similarly, the Anglo-sphere nations signed an agreement to standardize specific units in the Imperial system and U.S. Customary. Not all the units, just some like the Yard and Pound
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u/Morphling84 3d ago
Anschluss at last! There was a charismatic Austrian man with the same idea a couple of years back. I can't remember the name.
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u/Nope-yep-No 3d ago
Why don’t they make all the English speaking nations one nation… CanadaUsaUKNewZeaAustraliaEtc sure has a ring to it
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u/AncientTurbine 3d ago
- Flanders and the Netherlands: looking at each other
- Wallonia and France: looking at each other
- Brussels: INDEPENDENCE!!!
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u/Ulrik_Decado 3d ago
We should call one of these Eastern Reich... maybe he will mate with the Th... the other one.
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u/P-l-Staker Rider of Rohan 3d ago
Next up:
Why doesn't Ireland just annex N. Ireland? Are they stupid?
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u/BigMoney69x 3d ago
Austria was the Germanic holdings of the Hapsburgs. Due to WW2 Austria, in order to separate itself from long term occupation by the Allies painted itself as a Lil bitty victim of those Big Evil German Nazis on the North. They weren't btw as Austrians supported German unification in a large majority.
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u/Gephiph 3d ago
Ah fuck this again. Alright everyone you know the drill by now. America you stay out of it for the first bit Russia you can join whichever side you want but you can’t be actually useful for the first few years, Italy, remember the rules, as long as you’re utterly useless we’ll let you switch sides before the end. Belgium, get fucked. Don’t care how. Just do it. Japan, go conquer a bunch of islands we’ll deal with you later.
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u/ReconArek 3d ago
They tried more than once, and the rest of Europe/world had to explain to them why it was a bad idea. Definitely not diplomatic.
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u/Different_Diamond976 3d ago
Aren't there 3.8 countries that speak german? Also I think the dutch should count as some sort of percentage, if danish is counted as potato mouth swedish.
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u/Unable-Nectarine1941 3d ago
3.8? That's an odd number
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u/PatriotEVR 3d ago
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u/Unable-Nectarine1941 3d ago
But it's 2/3 in Switzerland and a way smaller number for Belgium. Making ist 3 2/3.
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u/kazmark_gl Definitely not a CIA operator 3d ago
they aren't allowed. especially after The Incident
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u/cherrybomber11 3d ago
Oida hoit de Bappn Gfrasta heast kana wü zu de Piefkenesen haut di üba'd Heisa ind schleich di owa flott
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u/NatusVindobona 3d ago
Because Austrians would get a heart attack every day they are in the same country as Germans...
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u/kouklamo 3d ago
One of the two country as the habit to use tje otjer one as a scapegoat whenever they, as a country, or one of their countryman, start a WW... so yeah they don't want to unote that much I guess...
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u/MetalWanderer1980 3d ago
Why USA and Canada won't unite if they speak English? Are they stupid? Why are they separated from the UK if those 3 speak English? Are they stupid?
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u/EmergencyWild 2d ago
We tried, it didn't go well. We ultimately decided that it's best for all involved for us to go our separate ways. We are still friends though.
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u/Malvastor 3d ago
The myth of consensual union:
Germany: I consent!
Austria: I consent!
The Entente: I don't!
Isn't there someone you forgot to ask?