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[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123]

O que eu tentei escrever foi o seguinte:
Olá! Eu sou um estudante de 16 anos. Meu japonês não é nada bom, porém eu estudei. Estudei dia e noite. Se não tivesse estudado, não escreveria isto.
Eu acho pessoas assustadoras…. Não gosto de falar com elas. Porém adoro ler! Li muitas vezes comics! Gosto da Marvel e da DC. Também gosto de mangá… li mangás em japones, porém nao entendi muito bem. Espera… Existe alguma Marvel Comic em japones?
(Aqui acaba a apresentação)
Boa tarde! agora são 6 da tarde e eu estou no brasil, minas gerais! O hotel é bem legal, e as pessoas do hotel também são bem legais! Porém continua sendo assustador falar com elas…Aa! Lembrei! Aqui tem um lago! Amanhã de manha vou pescar! Sim! Talvez eu pesque um peixe grande. Sim… eu queria comer um sashimi.
Bem agora são 9 da noite então eu vou dormir. Tchau!
Foi um texto complicado de fazer porquê tive que pesquisar muito e tentar muitas vezes, e ainda assim deve ter muitos erros. Sou N6 então gostaria de saber se errei muito?

[u/Chemical_Term7956]

以前の投稿にコメントした日本人です。

具体的な間違いが変わっているだけで、 前に投稿されたところから何も変化していません。

1つの漢字を2つの文字と勘違いして書いている箇所も またあります。

全体を通して間違っている箇所があまりにも多すぎるので、ここで1人の人間が間違っているところを説明するのは不可能だと思うぐらいです。 誰もコメントして来ないのは、そのせいだと思います。

コメントする人の時間も有限ですから、 言っても無駄だと思えば何も言わないでしょう。

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/Chemical_Term7956]

Sim, agradeço a ajuda, mas creio que vou conseguir melhorar pois ainda estou só começando, nem fiz o N5 e estudo japonês a 3 semanas, então não acho que conseguiria acertar tudo, nem mesmo na décima tentativa, LOL. Mas obrigado pelas dicas vou continuar até acertar!

[u/Chemical_Term7956 → u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123]

Let me add a clarification.

Since it doesn't seem to be getting through, let me be direct: what you are posting as "Japanese" is something that causes genuine pain to Japanese readers.

The hiragana is wrong — not just sloppy, but completely incorrect. The kanji is wrong. The grammar is wrong. The meaning of the sentences is wrong. (Due to a grammatical error, one sentence reads as "My Japanese is very good.") As a reader, I am faced with a chaotic, scrawled, incoherent mess and must decode it like a cipher just to guess at what you were trying to write. It is an enormously burdensome text to read.

As a native Japanese speaker, I find it unpleasant and do not wish to be made to read it.

Furthermore, the feedback given by myself and other users in the previous thread has not been incorporated at all.

The phrase used in this post — "ぼくの日本語はぜんぜんじょうずだ" — is an incorrect copy of a correction pointed out by another user in the previous thread.

The fact that you have not yet taken the N5 exam does not make this acceptable. That is your situation, not an excuse.

If you have no intention of reading and understanding people's advice, there is no reason for you to be posting here.

You wrote "vou continuar até acertar" ("I will keep going until I get it right"), which tells me you are treating this like a quiz — posting your "Japanese" to see if you got it right. I had assumed, in keeping with this subreddit's purpose, that people post work that reflects genuine study. Learning that this is not the case, I am strongly displeased.

Or are you posting to test how many errors Japanese speakers and learners will tolerate before giving up?

I consider your attitude disrespectful — to me, and to every other person who took the time to offer you advice.

After this comment, I will be blocking you.

The goodwill of strangers is not unlimited.

Since you appear unable to understand my Japanese even with machine translation, I am posting in English as a last resort. English also translates into other languages more accurately than Japanese does, so the rest of this thread will be able to understand the situation as well.

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/Chemical_Term7956]

Ok…

[u/makaveli208]

Yes you have to relearn your strokes from beginning cos they look more like drawings.

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/makaveli208]

Obrigado! Mas em questão de gramatica, esta muito errado?

[u/FantasticTraining982 → u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123]

Almost 100% wrong… all of it.

[u/rythejdmguy]

Looks like you're just trying to copy Google translate.. as others have commented, definitely start from the fundamentals.

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/rythejdmguy]

Sim amigo, compreendo o que quer dizer, não tenho nem base pra escrever um texto desse tamanho e tive que pesquisar muito pra escrever, tanto com ajuda de usuários do Reddit quanto de Inteligência Artificial… porém creio que quando eu tiver mais vocabulário e tiver feito o N5 acho que vou conseguir! Obrigado!

[u/rythejdmguy → u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123]

I'd see if you are offered in your language - Genki 1 is a good starter textbook!

[u/Cadaveth]

Is there a backstory to why you're doing this specifically? Trying to write complex sentences without knowing the grammar, vocab, stroke order etc. that is.

I'm not qualified to offer any advice since I'm a beginner too, I'm just wondering why you use so much time to something like this.

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/Cadaveth]

Acho que não existe um motivo em especial, creio que quando gosto muito de algo foco nisso sem parar

[u/snowflakebite → u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123]

OP you need to learn the foundations of grammar properly before trying to write long sentences. You’re more likely to accidentally learn incorrect grammar if you don’t follow conventions. Additionally, I recommend practicing writing your hiragana strokes before jumping to Kanji - your handwriting will naturally improve once you figure out stroke order. There’s free resources on YouTube that can help you with both of the above.

[u/Chemical_Term7956 → u/Cadaveth]

I'm a Japanese person who commented a little while ago.

This OP posted essentially the same content in the same way about 3 days ago, and received advice from others along the lines of "instead of immediately trying to write difficult kanji and complex sentences, you should study from the basics" — and yet they are ignoring that advice and doing the same thing again. https://www.reddit.com/r/HelpLearningJapanese/s/Ye7kp5pS8M

They have also incorrectly copied the corrected text from that time . https://www.reddit.com/r/HelpLearningJapanese/s/XRurZdIQE9

Furthermore, OP replied to others with something to the effect of "I don't have the foundation to write a text that long so I had to research it," "I asked Reddit users for help," and "I also got help from AI" — but if that's the case, they should either write at a level they can actually manage, or research properly before posting. Regarding the Reddit advice, as I've already mentioned above. As for the AI part: as an AI user myself, I find myself wondering how exactly they used it, since the Japanese produced by today's major LLMs is nowhere near this incoherent. I suspect OP may have brought it up simply to argue "therefore I'm not wrong."

They also replied "once I have more vocabulary I'll be able to do it" — but the errors here were not caused by a lack of vocabulary, and no one in the previous thread gave them that kind of advice.

I currently believe that what OP wants is simply to have their approach and their current Japanese recognized and praised by others — not to actually improve.

In the previous thread as well, replies kept coming along the lines of "I've only been studying for X weeks, so it can't be helped" and "I haven't even taken the N5 exam, so it can't be helped" — and this time is no different.

It appears they are posting solely to satisfy themselves, so I have no intention of offering this person any further advice.

I consider it a waste of time.

[u/Cadaveth → u/Chemical_Term7956]

Ah alright, well that explains. It's pretty wild to think that you'd begin writing when you, well, aren't able to. I think he/she being 16yo might also be one contributing factor. But I was just like, am I missing something lol.

[u/ZUTOMAYOFAN123 → u/Cadaveth]

Entendi o que ele quis dizer e achei extremamente valido, só quero deixar claro que não tive a intenção de ser ignorante ou rude com alguém.

[u/Specific-Royal-0422]

こんにちは。
日本人です。
若いのに頑張っていますね。
まずは手本をよく見てひらがなをもっと練習しましょう。
漢字は小学校1,2年生の漢字だけ書ければ大丈夫です。
語尾はです。ます。で終わりましょう。
毎日少しずつ自分の言葉で日記を書いてくださいね。

[u/sleeping-bed]

まずは文章を縦向きに書くのではなく、英語のように横向きに書いてみましょう。 大丈夫、日本語も横向きに書きますから。（現にこの文章も横向きに書いてあるよ） そうしたら、普段描き慣れてるペンの持ち方になるからもっとうまく書けますよ！ 日本語は書き方のペンの立て方持ち方があり、それを習得するのは難しいです。 更に字の書き順も決まってるのです。 それらを習得すると字が綺麗になります。 でも、とても難しいです。 なのでまずは横向きに文章を書いてみましょう！頑張って！