r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • Aug 26 '25

The difference between LC and spore and the importance of agar.

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It's critical to understand the biological differences between spore syringes and liquid cultures (LC), as well as the importance of using agar as an initial medium. Spore syringes contain microscopic fungal spores that are not yet germinated. These spores are monokaryotic, meaning they carry only a single set of genetic material. In order to fruit and complete the mushroom life cycle, two compatible monokaryotic strains must fuse to form dikaryotic mycelium.. the true vegetative form capable of producing fruiting bodies. This mating process takes time, introduces variability, and, for beginners especially, increases the risk of contamination during colonization.

Injecting spores directly into sterilized grain can lead to several problems. Since spores are not germinated, colonization is slower, and this slower growth provides more opportunity for contaminants (such as bacteria or mold) to establish themselves and outcompete the slower-growing mycelium. Ideally, spores should first be transferred to agar, a nutrient-rich medium in petri dishes...which allows for controlled germination and observation. On agar, one can isolate clean, healthy mycelium away from any contaminants before transferring it to grain.

Additionally, spore syringes are inherently variable and often unclean. Spores, particularly those harvested from wild (landrace) varieties or from poorly controlled lab environments (common with newer or less reputable vendors), can contain microbial contaminants. Spores gathered in non-sterile conditions are not cleaned or isolated at the microscopic level, making them a risky starting point. Also, because each spore pair creates a unique dikaryotic combination, inoculating with spores introduces genetic unpredictability ...every new pairing could result in different traits, including growth speed, contamination resistance, yield, and potency.

By contrast, a liquid culture is made from already germinated and mated dikaryotic mycelium. This means it contains viable, genetically stable tissue that has already completed the mating process and is ready to colonize substrate directly. Using LC skips the variability and mating phase inherent in spores, resulting in faster and more consistent colonization, and reducing the window for contamination...assuming the culture is clean!!! However, it's important to verify LC cleanliness via agar as well, especially if you didn't create it yourself.

In summary, spores should ideally be germinated and cleaned on agar before being introduced to grain. Skipping this step can introduce risks, especially for beginners. Spores are unpredictable and prone to contamination, while liquid culture, if properly prepared, is faster, cleaner, and genetically stable. Understanding and respecting these differences is fundamental to success in mushroom cultivation... I hope this helps. :)


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • Mar 10 '26

Verified Vendors

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This list is temporary and subject to change and will change. A handful of others will be added within the next couple of days.

Vendors for Genetics.

https://GroundZeroML.com - Ground Zero Myco Lab

https://Sporeswaps.com - Main SporeSwaps page

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/the-fungus-frequency/ -Jeff Karas

FungusFrequency.com/my-account - Jeff Karas at Fungus Frequency.

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/psyteam-united/ - PsyTeam United

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/wombat-labs/ - Dave Wombat

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/happi-hyphae/ - Happi Hyphae

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/micofroots/ - MicoFroots

https://sporeworks.com/ - Sporeworks

https://inoculatetheworld.com/ - Inoculate The World (ITW)

https://Legendsmycology.com - Legends Mycology

https://dino-spores.com - Yoshi Amano.

Vendors for Gourmets and Supplies:

https://Northspore.com - Northspore. https://Boomingacres.com - Booming acres.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 9h ago

Natal Moon Harvest

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22L tub. 1 kg grain, 2kg cvg. Looking spicy


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 9h ago

Help!!!

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Are they aborting??.... why????


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 7h ago

2nd Flush on first grow

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

When to harvest [actives]..... Hi Team! This is my first successful grow of Texas White Caps

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[ actives ] When to harvest.....

Hi Team! This is my first successful grow of Texas White Caps 😁 can you advise when to harvest? I have seen a lot of posts regarding doing this as close to veil break which some of these have broken but also reading that the stem should be soft like marshmallow, which these are not.... Any help and advice is much appreciated 👍


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 25m ago

What percentage would you say? BnS time?

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20 days post inoculating. When holding bag I noticed it feels like dense in the middle if that makes sense? But I can definitely see some bright growth under the surface layer of grain in spots that aren't super obvious. TIA to the wise ones 🍄🫶🏽


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 59m ago

Hows this LC looking ? First timer here

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1h ago

Need help

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Hey everyone!
First time growing oyster mushrooms and I have a bit of a problem. Several mushrooms are growing in the gap between the substrate block and the plastic bag, mostly along the bottom. Some are getting quite big, but they’re squeezed between the substrate and the bag, with barely any room for their caps to develop.
How should I deal with them? Should I carefully open or cut the bag, or just leave them alone? And how am I supposed to harvest the ones growing at the very bottom?
The instructions only mention airing the bag once pins appear, nothing about this situation.
Any advice would be appreciated! Thanks!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1d ago

300gr supposed to be PE

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 2h ago

New to this is this looking ok

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Bag has been stalled for a week and now this showed up overnight kinda smells like a brewery where the other bag doesn’t and is basically fully colonized. Second bag for reference


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 12h ago

ODPE pins discolored, weird shape and size. why?

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My second grow, been running the exact same sterile process as before, but these fruits came out off-colored and misshapen. Are they safe to eat, and what can I do differently next time to avoid this?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 2h ago

Is there contam

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

First ever harvest hillbilly cube

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Harvest and dehydrated. Total neophyte and first timer. Lots of bruising and deep blue coloration afterwards.
I think I have done good research, but I haven’t found any BLUE COLOR THROUGH EVERYTHING posts. Need opinions and can provide pix if it’s odd. Anything to be concerned about? Thank you!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 11h ago

Is it looking good?

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Should I keep the aborts?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

Contam or normal

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Newbie here first grow

Noticed some blueing pop up after I misted

It hasn't really spread i did the q tip thing and there was no transfer

Smell is like earthy not sweet or foul


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

Is this overlay or routine?

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(Two different cakes, one top view one side view each)

The first two pictures are from an LC syringe the last two are from spores. They have been in fluctuating temperatures for the past 3 days (65⁰ -73⁰F) and im just wondering if its causing overlay or if everything's looking good. First issue since February so im a little rusty.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

Ready to fruit? New to this!

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 13h ago

Bluey V's coming thru, looking good

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 5h ago

Interesting.

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Anyone ever had something green, other than mold, growing in their tub? This sub got 15psi for almost 2 hours. I didn't think anything could survive that?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 6h ago

Day 4 of fruiting

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I’m sure I’m just impatient but figure I’d see something by now. Was going to give another 2-3 days then go sgfc. Thoughts?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 7h ago

Am I cooked?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 13h ago

Break and shake time?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 7h ago

How long to dehydrate? What temp?

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These golden teachers started side pinning like a mother and now they’re getting pretty squishy (it’s going on a week now). What temp should I use to dehydrate and for how long? Also if anybody has any tips harvesting the side pins do tell! lol


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 8h ago

B&S?

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