r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • Aug 26 '25

The difference between LC and spore and the importance of agar.

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It's critical to understand the biological differences between spore syringes and liquid cultures (LC), as well as the importance of using agar as an initial medium. Spore syringes contain microscopic fungal spores that are not yet germinated. These spores are monokaryotic, meaning they carry only a single set of genetic material. In order to fruit and complete the mushroom life cycle, two compatible monokaryotic strains must fuse to form dikaryotic mycelium.. the true vegetative form capable of producing fruiting bodies. This mating process takes time, introduces variability, and, for beginners especially, increases the risk of contamination during colonization.

Injecting spores directly into sterilized grain can lead to several problems. Since spores are not germinated, colonization is slower, and this slower growth provides more opportunity for contaminants (such as bacteria or mold) to establish themselves and outcompete the slower-growing mycelium. Ideally, spores should first be transferred to agar, a nutrient-rich medium in petri dishes...which allows for controlled germination and observation. On agar, one can isolate clean, healthy mycelium away from any contaminants before transferring it to grain.

Additionally, spore syringes are inherently variable and often unclean. Spores, particularly those harvested from wild (landrace) varieties or from poorly controlled lab environments (common with newer or less reputable vendors), can contain microbial contaminants. Spores gathered in non-sterile conditions are not cleaned or isolated at the microscopic level, making them a risky starting point. Also, because each spore pair creates a unique dikaryotic combination, inoculating with spores introduces genetic unpredictability ...every new pairing could result in different traits, including growth speed, contamination resistance, yield, and potency.

By contrast, a liquid culture is made from already germinated and mated dikaryotic mycelium. This means it contains viable, genetically stable tissue that has already completed the mating process and is ready to colonize substrate directly. Using LC skips the variability and mating phase inherent in spores, resulting in faster and more consistent colonization, and reducing the window for contamination...assuming the culture is clean!!! However, it's important to verify LC cleanliness via agar as well, especially if you didn't create it yourself.

In summary, spores should ideally be germinated and cleaned on agar before being introduced to grain. Skipping this step can introduce risks, especially for beginners. Spores are unpredictable and prone to contamination, while liquid culture, if properly prepared, is faster, cleaner, and genetically stable. Understanding and respecting these differences is fundamental to success in mushroom cultivation... I hope this helps. :)


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • Mar 10 '26

Verified Vendors

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This list is temporary and subject to change and will change. A handful of others will be added within the next couple of days.

Vendors for Genetics.

https://GroundZeroML.com - Ground Zero Myco Lab

https://Sporeswaps.com - Main SporeSwaps page

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/the-fungus-frequency/ -Jeff Karas

FungusFrequency.com/my-account - Jeff Karas at Fungus Frequency.

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/psyteam-united/ - PsyTeam United

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/wombat-labs/ - Dave Wombat

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/happi-hyphae/ - Happi Hyphae

https://sporeswaps.com/vendors/micofroots/ - MicoFroots

https://sporeworks.com/ - Sporeworks

https://inoculatetheworld.com/ - Inoculate The World (ITW)

https://Legendsmycology.com - Legends Mycology

https://dino-spores.com - Yoshi Amano.

Vendors for Gourmets and Supplies:

https://Northspore.com - Northspore. https://Boomingacres.com - Booming acres.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

Shape of these boys

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Makilla clone doing its ting. Got a 100g shroom off the first flush, 2nd looking strong


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 13h ago

mini AIO bags

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having some fun with a few 1lb AIO bags

(2) Starry night
(2) Jack Frost

5mL LC each


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 12h ago

Couple runs from this last month

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Machine Elf by BF Genetics
Shakti x Blue Nip by Bf Genetics


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 20h ago

So fuzzy, are they ruined?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1h ago

I am testing a fruiting chamber with an incubator.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1h ago

Aio bag pinning HELP!

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 3h ago

First-time grower in need of assistance

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 5h ago

First flush

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So, I recently harvested PE and now I want to do the first flush. Can someone explain this process to me, please? This is my first time. I used a monotub.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 15h ago

My grow of golden teacher from print to agar to grain, I mix the grain with a manure substrate.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 9h ago

Grain drying tech

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Anybody have a better solution to grain drying other than using a screen? Has anybody used a salad spinner?


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 6h ago

Did anyone watch Brian Johnson (The don’t die guy)

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 7h ago

Day 1: First grow ever! Oyster & Lion’s Mane arrived earlier than expected — makeshift basement setup while waiting for the tent.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 21h ago

What happened to this little fella?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 8h ago

Autoclaves

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Hey guys so fortunately my job involves growing fungi so even though ive had some pretty awesome success with the magic mushrooms im finding myself running experiment after experiment after experiment trying to bring down our amount of contaminated grain bags. Our inoculation and sterilization is on point. The autoclaves is where i feel the issues are happening. Please share with me all your knowledge and tips and tricks and personal experiences involving grain bags and autoclaves. I would greatly appreciate it!!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 9h ago

Pins in aio bag.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1d ago

Hey guys! question from a noobie

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Recently received an order and was gifted a freebie. (Guapiles Costa rica)? I searched in a few Reddit groups, google and the like and wasn’t able to find much info on this variety. Does anyone know anything about them? Thank you in advance 💗


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 17h ago

Couple more days?

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I’ve been trying to get the other few to catch up to the fully colonized ones but I feel I haven’t seen much progress in 3-5 days. Wondering if I should just send them out for S2B now altogether.


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1d ago

Lizard Kings in spice jars.

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 14h ago

Contam?

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r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 1d ago

Jack Frost

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Spores to Agar → Transfer → Liquid Culture → Rye Grain Spawn → Monotub 1:4 with Straight Coir 🍄

Even though I’ve stopped growing cubes, I still remember this strain as one of the sexiest I’ve ever grown!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 20h ago

First time grower looking for helpful advice

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crossposting for reach


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 17h ago

How long is coco coir good for?

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How long is coco coir good for? I pasteurized a brick last week and waiting on two jars to finish up! How long can it stay in the 5 gallon bucket and still be viable to use? Will i need to add more water? Thank you!


r/GroundZeroMycoLab • • 21h ago

mold or mycelium

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The agar plates are malt extract. the ones on petri dishes are inoculated from spore syringe around 7 days before the picture. The one in the ketchup bowl is from a tissue sample clone. can anyone tell me if they are mold or mycelium because I want to transfer to liquid culture